Manny news

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Fri May 13, 2011 6:54 pm

First topic message reminder :

Same as the Floyd thread any Manny news put on this thread to stop the board being cluttered.

by TRUSSMAN66 Wed May 18, 2011 10:33 pm

You don't know how the Hoppo thing went down..

You're not American and thank God for that.

I'd be ashamed of my Country if you were...

Now stop making false statements and quit with the fantasy b******t that comes out of your deluded mind.

by BALTIMORA Wed May 18, 2011 10:35 pm

Guys, just leave him to it. You're dealing with a grade A numpty. He's an internet troll, nothing more. All he does is sit on here and various other sites and bait people. He talks gibberish. Leave him to it.

by D4thincarnation Wed May 18, 2011 11:24 pm

It is definitely on now.

http://www.boxingscene.com/photo-juan-manuel-marquez-signs-pacquiao-trilogy--39310

It at catchweight of 144lbs.

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-i-beat-pacquiao-twice-ill-it-again-mexico--39312

Marquez is thrilled by it as he has wanted this fight for a while

November 12th is the date, but Marquez still has the Diaz fight to get through as well.

And if Marquez wins he will be guaranteed $10m in the rematch.

If the third fight is half as good as the first two we are in for a real treat.

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Wed May 18, 2011 11:32 pm

Good to see this fight happening. Not keen on the 147lbs title being on the line because it's a catchweight but good news none the less.

by The Galveston Giant Thu May 19, 2011 8:13 am

Good to see this signed now

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu May 19, 2011 8:37 am

Take a second and read the comments below the 1st link from boxingscene.

Anyway, interestingly it says on there that manny still hasn't signed.

What's holding you back manny? Sign the contract and stop ducking.

Marquez has already signed, why not sign the contract right away manny?

by coxy0001 Thu May 19, 2011 8:49 am

Nice going Marquez, you're gonna be 38 soon and haven't got much left. Nice $5m payday buddy, well done just try not to get hurt against a guy who's naturally been banging around 2 divisions higher than yourself.

by BALTIMORA Thu May 19, 2011 9:04 am

Marquez has signed the contract eh? I wonder what handset he went for...

by Rowley Thu May 19, 2011 9:07 am

BALTIMORA wrote:Marquez has signed the contract eh? I wonder what handset he went for...

Marquez is old school he has a Nokia with proper buttons and no camera, mp3 internet or anything fancy like that. He even carries it in one of those leatherette wallets with the perspex screen.

by Scottrf Thu May 19, 2011 9:09 am

I think his phone still runs on the 10.1.1 operating system.

by coxy0001 Thu May 19, 2011 9:33 am

I thought Marquez was that old he used a sun-dial to tell the time

Don't mention the world wide web to him, he might think the world's been taken over by giant spiders... at his age you dont' want to panic the old chap and give him a heart attack

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu May 19, 2011 9:45 am

Glad to see that the WBO have put their super interim diamond zimmerframe on the line for Marquez

by **HumanWindmill** Thu May 19, 2011 10:02 am

In the light of this news I have now merged Mickey's ' JMM v Manny at 144lb. ' thread with the pre existing ' catchweight ' thread.

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 10:37 am

Lumbering_Jack wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Mayweather landed 44% of total punches thrown vs Mosley.
Manny landed 31% of total punches thrown vs Mosley.
I wonder who is the more acurate puncher.... also Mayweather didn't get rolled like a drunk vs
Mosley unlike Manny.

At least Floyd has the ability to hold on when hurt. Manny just crumbled. Manny hasn't got the boxing brain of Floyd that's why he went down like a sack of dung when Mosley connected that huge punch in the 10th.
How many times has Manny been down in his career.

Must be a fair few times now buddy. How many times has Floyd been down?

by Scottrf Thu May 19, 2011 10:38 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Mayweather landed 44% of total punches thrown vs Mosley.
Manny landed 31% of total punches thrown vs Mosley.
I wonder who is the more acurate puncher.... also Mayweather didn't get rolled like a drunk vs
Mosley unlike Manny.

At least Floyd has the ability to hold on when hurt. Manny just crumbled. Manny hasn't got the boxing brain of Floyd that's why he went down like a sack of dung when Mosley connected that huge punch in the 10th.
How many times has Manny been down in his career.
Must be a fair few times now buddy. How many times has Floyd been down?

Only 2 I can think of.

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 10:41 am

Thanks Scott, How many times has Manny been stopped? and Floyd?

by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 10:42 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:Thanks Scott, How many times has Manny been stopped? and Floyd?

http://boxrec.com/index.php

Here knock yourself out.

by Scottrf Thu May 19, 2011 10:42 am

Do you not follow boxing? Surely with your limited scope (Pacquiao detraction) you should know that?

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 10:45 am

Thanks D4, I will check how many times Manny has been knocked down/out apart from the brutal one he took vs Shane.

by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 10:47 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:Thanks D4, I will check how many times Manny has been knocked down/out apart from the brutal one he took vs Shane.

Hope you learn something Rolling Eyes

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 10:48 am

Only that Manny has been brutally knocked down/out a fair few times.
Thanks for the link.

by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 10:55 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:Only that Manny has been brutally knocked down/out a fair few times.
Thanks for the link.

NP, enjoy.

by BALTIMORA Thu May 19, 2011 11:51 am

Peacehavenboy wrote:Only that Manny has been brutally knocked down/out a fair few times.
Thanks for the link.

Do those early ones count though? I mean, they were back when his head was a normal size and everything...

by Imperial Ghosty Thu May 19, 2011 11:57 am

Officially Mayweather has only been down once against Hernandez but even then it wasn't a knock down but rather touching the floor in pain following breaking his hand but on the flip side should have been adjudged to have been down against Judah from memory.

by BALTIMORA Thu May 19, 2011 11:59 am

So anyway, what's all this I've seen about Manny beating up the elderly..?

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 12:01 pm

BALTIMORA wrote:
Peacehavenboy wrote:Only that Manny has been brutally knocked down/out a fair few times.
Thanks for the link.

Do those early ones count though? I mean, they were back when his head was a normal size and everything...

Very true....I think they still count though. Very Happy

I can't belive how many times he has been rolled like a drunk. Shocked

I guess it's a very dangerous sport though. Lets just be thankful that Manny is likely to be in with JMM next and he is not a big puncher, I'd hate to see Manny decked again like Shane did to him. boxing

by Lumbering_Jack Thu May 19, 2011 12:39 pm

Catchweight of 144... Like Marquez could come in heavier than that anyway, pointless.

Marquez is a blown up SFW. Another scalp for team vulture.

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 12:46 pm

What's with all these catchweight fights?
If JMM is 'the same size as Manny' why hasn't he been fighting at WW?

by TRUSSMAN66 Thu May 19, 2011 12:48 pm

Manny's career is resembling the Leonard comeback tour...where he fights the Duran and Hearns faded shells.....

Much rather see him take on Martinez at 154 and no less..........

Seems to feasting on Mayweather leftovers......

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 12:52 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Manny's career is resembling the Leonard comeback tour...where he fights the Duran and Hearns faded shells.....

Much rather see him take on Martinez at 154 and no less.......... Or a 150lb catchweight for the title Truss??
Seems to feasting on Mayweather leftovers......

by Lumbering_Jack Thu May 19, 2011 12:54 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Manny's career is resembling the Leonard comeback tour...where he fights the Duran and Hearns faded shells.....

Much rather see him take on Martinez at 154 and no less..........

Seems to feasting on Mayweather leftovers......

It honestly wouldn't shock me if Manny got Martinez to agree to 150 with his MW titles on the line.

by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 1:00 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Manny's career is resembling the Leonard comeback tour...where he fights the Duran and Hearns faded shells.....

Much rather see him take on Martinez at 154 and no less..........

Seems to feasting on Mayweather leftovers......

It honestly wouldn't shock me if Manny got Martinez to agree to 150 with his MW titles on the line.

If Martinez want it he can have it, Roach offer that deal, but Martinez said no.

by Lumbering_Jack Thu May 19, 2011 1:02 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Manny's career is resembling the Leonard comeback tour...where he fights the Duran and Hearns faded shells.....

Much rather see him take on Martinez at 154 and no less..........

Seems to feasting on Mayweather leftovers......

It honestly wouldn't shock me if Manny got Martinez to agree to 150 with his MW titles on the line.

If Martinez want it he can have it, Roach offer that deal, but Martinez said no.

And you wonder why? The MW champ coming down to 150 and still having his titles on the line, despite fighting in the weight class below.

by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 1:08 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Manny's career is resembling the Leonard comeback tour...where he fights the Duran and Hearns faded shells.....

Much rather see him take on Martinez at 154 and no less..........

Seems to feasting on Mayweather leftovers......

It honestly wouldn't shock me if Manny got Martinez to agree to 150 with his MW titles on the line.

If Martinez want it he can have it, Roach offer that deal, but Martinez said no.

And you wonder why? The MW champ coming down to 150 and still having his titles on the line, despite fighting in the weight class below.

Didn't mention his title, just didn't want the fight.

by Imperial Ghosty Thu May 19, 2011 1:11 pm

So i'm assuming you class that as Martinez ducking him?

by TRUSSMAN66 Thu May 19, 2011 1:14 pm

I'm sorry shouldn't have said anything....he's getting the argument he wants..

by azania Thu May 19, 2011 1:15 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:
D4thincarnation wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Manny's career is resembling the Leonard comeback tour...where he fights the Duran and Hearns faded shells.....

Much rather see him take on Martinez at 154 and no less..........

Seems to feasting on Mayweather leftovers......

It honestly wouldn't shock me if Manny got Martinez to agree to 150 with his MW titles on the line.

If Martinez want it he can have it, Roach offer that deal, but Martinez said no.

And you wonder why? The MW champ coming down to 150 and still having his titles on the line, despite fighting in the weight class below.

Didn't mention his title, just didn't want the fight.

So you thik its right for the MW champ to lose 10lbs to fight the WW and former LMW champ at a weight below what the former LMW champ held the title.

This is beyond a joke.

Why not have Ward lose 18lbs and fight Manny at 150 whilst we're at it. Heck, why not Wlad fight at 150 against Manny

by azania Thu May 19, 2011 1:17 pm

This thread is being watched closely.

by Rowley Thu May 19, 2011 1:18 pm

azania wrote:This thread is being watched closely.

I'd rather watch an Eastenders omnibus

by kevchadders Thu May 19, 2011 1:23 pm

rowley wrote:
azania wrote:This thread is being watched closely.

I'd rather watch an Eastenders omnibus

lol really that bad??? dont think i'll read though it all... but pick up the last few posts.

by azania Thu May 19, 2011 1:25 pm

kevchadders wrote:
rowley wrote:
azania wrote:This thread is being watched closely.

I'd rather watch an Eastenders omnibus

lol really that bad??? dont think i'll read though it all... but pick up the last few posts.

A wise choice.

by Day V Lately Thu May 19, 2011 1:40 pm

business continues to be good for the scrap merchant

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 1:50 pm

Hens eat crushed clam shells. I know someone else that eats crushed shells...
Michael Buffer: Mannnnnnyyyy 'Hen-man' Pacquiaoooooooooooo

by Sugar Boy Sweetie Thu May 19, 2011 2:29 pm

Martinez at 150lb would be a joke, quite right that he turned it down. If mannys a welter and Martinez is a middle any fight should be at the middle ground of 154. Manny has already 'won a title there' (pish) so what's the problem?

Martinez would beat manny anyway, I'm totally certain of that. I'd probably back him to beat mayweather as well.

by azania Thu May 19, 2011 2:33 pm

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Martinez at 150lb would be a joke, quite right that he turned it down. If mannys a welter and Martinez is a middle any fight should be at the middle ground of 154. Manny has already 'won a title there' (pish) so what's the problem?

Martinez would beat manny anyway, I'm totally certain of that. I'd probably back him to beat mayweather as well.

Manny is the former LMW chapm. Being that and as he wants (allegedly) to fight Martinez, it should be at catchweight. IMO the fair weight stip should be 157 (halfway between 154 and 157). Seeing as Manny is the former undefeated LMW champ, he should not have any excuses unless he is scared of Martinez.

by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 2:36 pm

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Martinez at 150lb would be a joke, quite right that he turned it down. If mannys a welter and Martinez is a middle any fight should be at the middle ground of 154. Manny has already 'won a title there' (pish) so what's the problem?

Martinez would beat manny anyway, I'm totally certain of that. I'd probably back him to beat mayweather as well.

Manny is a very small welter, he can still make light welter.

by Peacehavenboy Thu May 19, 2011 2:39 pm

But then you hear Roach and Team Vulture say 'Manny is a natural 140 pounder' Then why the hell is Manny vs JMM at 144lbs??? I'll tell you why...to screw the opposition over! I have never known people to move the goalposts as much as Team Vult...errr Team Manny.
Disgrace!
Manny you are the 154lb undefeated champ laughing

why not fight Martinez???

by coxy0001 Thu May 19, 2011 2:44 pm

Ring article on the matter:

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/167355-pacquiao-marquez-will-be-a-disaster

Seems to be a recurring theme that Manny gets laughed at and torn to shreds by the media over his choice of opposition.

Marg? Inactive save for one fight
Mosley? Old and was 0-1-1 in his last 2 fights
Marquez? A guy who's a small lightweight who'll be 38

Yeah, way to go team Manny for dragging boxing's name through the mud again. Thankfully there's enough quality fights to keep proper fans happy.

by D4thincarnation Thu May 19, 2011 2:48 pm

I wouldn't want to see Ortiz vs Pacquiao myself.

I like Ortiz he has a bright future in boxing and a fight with Pacquiao at this time could ruin him.

Marquez is proven class operator and pushed Pacquiao hard in both of their previous fights.

Roach is said to be nervous about this encounter and will need to get his game plan spot on.

by azania Thu May 19, 2011 2:53 pm

D4thincarnation wrote:
Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Martinez at 150lb would be a joke, quite right that he turned it down. If mannys a welter and Martinez is a middle any fight should be at the middle ground of 154. Manny has already 'won a title there' (pish) so what's the problem?

Martinez would beat manny anyway, I'm totally certain of that. I'd probably back him to beat mayweather as well.

Manny is a very small welter, he can still make light welter.

He is also the former LMW champ. If he wants to fight the MW champ with stips, those stips should not cripple the MW champ to render him effective. 150 is suicidal for Martinez. Pac should be prepared to juice up (weight training and protein that is) to 157 for the catchweight to me meaningful.

If he can make LWW, why make the JMM fight above that level.

The man is a fraud. A disgrace to the noble art and the sooner he is forced to take RANDOM tests the better for boxing. Even his voice has changed FFS.

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