Zlatan or Ronaldo

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

tophat wrote:Zlatan simply doesn't cut it for me.

tophat wrote: I've seen him disappoint too many times when it matters, on the really big stages in big games. Great players rise to the occasion

funny how you can't name single game you have seen him disappoint though, the only example you could think of was when he scoed 2 goals.

tophat wrote:
Also, for someone apparently so amazing, he does seem to get shifted around a lot.
Nobody seems that keen on keeping him around.

These are not comments by someone who thinks that ibrahimovic is one of the best players in the world, you are just backtracking now.

Either way I don't reallyc are because my aim was to prove ibrahimovic wa sone of the best strikers in the world and that has been proven and you even admitted just now you think he is one of the best so my aim is complete

And?

He doesn't cut it for me, so what. He clearly gives you a rager, fair play, it's horses for courses.

Names 2, actually, and someone else has already pointed out that he was 'flat' despite the 2 goals in 1 of the games. And, as per MIG, all because I do not have a photographic memory of ever second of Zlat's playing career does not invalidate my opinion. That said, I'm still enjoying the wonderful irony of your position on that.

If you are arguing a point at least have some evidence to back up your point. I posted about 20 different big teams ibrahimovic has scored against in some very important fixtures and posted his goal scoring record at every club, champions league and international games.

So far you have said ibrahimovic goes quiet in the big games (even though he doesn't as the evidence i posted of the teams he scored against shows) and you have faied to name any games he has gone quiet in. The only game you mentioned was a game he scored 2 goals in which is just a WUM comment.

If you are going to argue for hours that ibrahimovic goes quiet in the big games post some evidence. The fact you haven't posted any evidence shows you can't prove anything.

(for the record there will be games Ibrahimovic has been quiet in, it is normal just like Van persie or Messi or Neymar or Xavi have been quiet in some big games, the fact he has been impressive and scored in 20 big games I posted and more shows his quality).

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

tophat wrote:Zlatan simply doesn't cut it for me.

tophat wrote: I've seen him disappoint too many times when it matters, on the really big stages in big games. Great players rise to the occasion

funny how you can't name  single game you have seen him disappoint though, the only example you could think of was when he scoed 2 goals.

tophat wrote:
Also, for someone apparently so amazing, he does seem to get shifted around a lot.
Nobody seems that keen on keeping him around.

These are not comments by someone who thinks that ibrahimovic is one of the best players in the world, you are just backtracking now.

Either way I don't reallyc are because my aim was to prove ibrahimovic wa sone of the best strikers in the world and that has been proven and you even admitted just now you think he is one of the best so my aim is complete

And?

He doesn't cut it for me, so what.  He clearly gives you a rager, fair play, it's horses for courses.

Names 2, actually, and someone else has already pointed out that he was 'flat' despite the 2 goals in 1 of the games. And, as per MIG, all because I do not have a photographic memory of ever second of Zlat's playing career does not invalidate my opinion.  That said, I'm still enjoying the wonderful irony of your position on that.

If you are arguing a point at least have some evidence to back up your point. I posted about 20 different big teams ibrahimovic has scored against in some very important fixtures and posted his goal scoring record at every club, champions league and international games.

So far you have said ibrahimovic goes quiet in the big games (even though he doesn't as the evidence i posted of the teams he scored against shows) and you have faied to name any games he has gone quiet in. The only game you mentioned was a game he scored 2 goals in which is just a WUM comment.

If you are going to argue for hours that ibrahimovic goes quiet in the big games post some evidence. The fact you haven't posted any evidence shows you can't prove anything.

(for the record there will be games Ibrahimovic has been quiet in, it is normal just like Van persie or Messi or Neymar or Xavi have been quiet in some big games, the fact he has been impressive and scored in 20 big games I posted and more shows his quality).

Lol, again, enjoying the irony of you demanding evidence of me.  You clearly follow his career more closely than I do, hence why you can real of the games he’s got you most excited over. It’s just the dozen or so games I’ve seen him in he’s always flattered to deceive.  And no, I cannot remember every detail of every game of football I’ve seen over the last 6-8 years.  It’s just a general sentiment.  If I watched the games you have I may not have felt the same.

Other than that we’re just back to your usual wummery/blind ignorance (again, enjoying that irony of that accusation) by refusing to accept that a player could possibly score two set-piece goals but STILL not perform well when the other 88 minutes of a game are taken into context.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

tophat wrote:Zlatan simply doesn't cut it for me.

tophat wrote: I've seen him disappoint too many times when it matters, on the really big stages in big games. Great players rise to the occasion

funny how you can't name  single game you have seen him disappoint though, the only example you could think of was when he scoed 2 goals.

tophat wrote:
Also, for someone apparently so amazing, he does seem to get shifted around a lot.
Nobody seems that keen on keeping him around.

These are not comments by someone who thinks that ibrahimovic is one of the best players in the world, you are just backtracking now.

Either way I don't reallyc are because my aim was to prove ibrahimovic wa sone of the best strikers in the world and that has been proven and you even admitted just now you think he is one of the best so my aim is complete

And?

He doesn't cut it for me, so what.  He clearly gives you a rager, fair play, it's horses for courses.

Names 2, actually, and someone else has already pointed out that he was 'flat' despite the 2 goals in 1 of the games. And, as per MIG, all because I do not have a photographic memory of ever second of Zlat's playing career does not invalidate my opinion.  That said, I'm still enjoying the wonderful irony of your position on that.

If you are arguing a point at least have some evidence to back up your point. I posted about 20 different big teams ibrahimovic has scored against in some very important fixtures and posted his goal scoring record at every club, champions league and international games.

So far you have said ibrahimovic goes quiet in the big games (even though he doesn't as the evidence i posted of the teams he scored against shows) and you have faied to name any games he has gone quiet in. The only game you mentioned was a game he scored 2 goals in which is just a WUM comment.

If you are going to argue for hours that ibrahimovic goes quiet in the big games post some evidence. The fact you haven't posted any evidence shows you can't prove anything.

(for the record there will be games Ibrahimovic has been quiet in, it is normal just like Van persie or Messi or Neymar or Xavi have been quiet in some big games, the fact he has been impressive and scored in 20 big games I posted and more shows his quality).

Lol, again, enjoying the irony of you demanding evidence of me.  You clearly follow his career more closely than I do, hence why you can real of the games he’s got you most excited over. It’s just the dozen or so games I’ve seen him in he’s always flattered to deceive.  And no, I cannot remember every detail of every game of football I’ve seen over the last 6-8 years.  It’s just a general sentiment.  If I watched the games you have I may not have felt the same.

Other than that we’re just back to your usual wummery/blind ignorance (again, enjoying that irony of that accusation) by refusing to accept that a player could possibly score two set-piece goals but STILL not perform well when the other 88 minutes of a game are taken into context.

socal1976 wrote:I would say Ronaldo, Zlatan has come on as of late but Ronaldo has been more consistently brilliant throughout his career and he has won a world player of the year and European title. Zlatan is the greatest pure striker in the game right now but Ronaldo's numbers in probably the two best leagues Spain and England probably make him a more dangerous weapon. Plus Ronaldo can move out wide and play on either side so he is more versatile. But either way both a incredible forwards.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:

socal1976 wrote:I would say Ronaldo, Zlatan has come on as of late but Ronaldo has been more consistently brilliant throughout his career and he has won a world player of the year and European title. Zlatan is the greatest pure striker in the game right now but Ronaldo's numbers in probably the two best leagues Spain and England probably make him a more dangerous weapon. Plus Ronaldo can move out wide and play on either side so he is more versatile. But either way both a incredible forwards.

It is a damn shame that one of them had to miss the World cup!!!