Ricky Hatton - Setting himself up for another fall ??

I like Ricky........I think he was a great fighter even If the majority on here don't agree........Think instead of deriding him Brits should be proud to have such an excellent achiever........

Heres the juice..........Hatton just seems to think he has to prove himself all the time..........He'll never be a big promoter..He'll never be a big Manager he's just a small guy playing a big man's game........

You could see the clenched teeth when he was praising the Aussie boy for stopping his "One" big hope of making shed loads of money and getting a big seat in the game........Towers an unbeaten 6ft 8 heavy with a good physique and decent looks would have been a multi million pound asset in the lucrative heavy division.........Napoleon wouldn't want Ricky..........as a general.

Boxing is a closed shop........Hatton got his SKy deal taken away........He's lost a few of his fighters and he seems destined for heartbreak after heartbreak in the cut throat business.........of Boxing..

Rick........Enjoy your retirement.........respect your Wife...Love your kids and patch it up with your folks.........You only get one Mother and father and when they are gone they are gone and you can't fix things then........

Leave promoting and Managing to the hardened, know-the-promoting-game-types. less sensitive guys like Hearn and Warren...........and just enjoy the trappings of your success..........Or do something you're more made for in training or local charity stuff........

You're a sensitive guy..............Promotion and managing in Boxing isn't meant for those types...

You don't need it..and you don't need to look for respect......You have it in bundles..........

Ricky lately looks very rough to me. He has the look of a man who is still abusing himself. He looks a good 10 years older than he actually is. Watching the interview I'm not sure how together Hatton is at the moment. He would have put up a better front on the Towers loss in the past.

Hatton should concentrate on getting himself sorted out. He seems to take defeat badly which shows a lack of self belief.

He should get back in the ring. No doubt he would make a few bucks off all the Man City fans who would pay to watch 'Our Ricky'

Strongback wrote: Ricky lately looks very rough to me. He has the look of a man who is still abusing himself.  He looks a good 10 years older than he actually is.  Watching the interview I'm not sure how together Hatton is at the moment. He would have put up a better front on the Towers loss in the past.

Hatton should concentrate on getting himself sorted out. He seems to take defeat badly which shows a lack of self belief.

Ricky needs to be in the spotlight.........He has low self esteem...........But he is in way over his head in the promoter game..

me thinks..

Ricky seems to be a bit of a more extreme Barry McGuigan. Loves the limelight and will do anything to be in it.

I suppose its normal really after the attention and support he got over his career.

But as the years toll on and people start asking "Ricky who?" then we will see him slowly go downhill again I reckon.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Ricky seems to be a bit of a more extreme Barry McGuigan. Loves the limelight and will do anything to be in it.

I suppose its normal really after the attention and support he got over his career.

But as the years toll on and people start asking "Ricky who?" then we will see him slowly go downhill again I reckon.

Absolute rubbish,people who don't even follow boxing know who Ricky Hatton is,name any fighter who has had the kind of following Hatton has had,Hatton has a personality rather than been a piece of cardboard, wishful thinking on your part more like it.

Nico the gman wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Ricky seems to be a bit of a more extreme Barry McGuigan. Loves the limelight and will do anything to be in it.

I suppose its normal really after the attention and support he got over his career.

But as the years toll on and people start asking "Ricky who?" then we will see him slowly go downhill again I reckon.

Absolute rubbish,people who don't even follow boxing know who Ricky Hatton is,name any fighter who has had the kind of following Hatton has had,Hatton has a personality rather than been a piece of cardboard, wishful thinking on your part more like it.

Everybody seemed to know who Bruno was and as his career ended his life went downhill. Bruno ended up having a stay in a mental institution. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Hatton end up the same way.

Towers an unbeaten 6ft 8 heavy with a good physique and decent looks would have been a multi million pound asset in the lucrative heavy division.........

You should take over from Ricky...Towers is an ex-con who took part in a kidnapping where a guy was tortured with an iron...turned his life around in prison but, and here's the important bit....he's hopeless.

He makes me yearn for the return of Pele Reid!!!!

Towers got a 13 year stretch for kidnap and torture. Apparently he didn't actually do the kidnap and torture but was an accomplice. The guy kidnapped was an underworld criminal.


Towers poo poo'd himself at the weekend. He's not as bad as that performance, he has a career on the domestic circuit.

Hatton needs to get himself on I'm a Celebrity, £500k up front, contracts with Iceland, This Morning etc etc. Also needs to get rid of the hangers on.

Strongback wrote:Towers got a 13 year stretch for kidnap and torture.  Apparently he didn't actually do the kidnap and torture but was an accomplice.  The guy kidnapped was an underworld criminal.


Towers poo poo'd himself at the weekend. He's not as bad as that performance, he has a career on the domestic circuit.

Only British fighters poo poo themselves..no doubt.

Strongback wrote:Towers got a 13 year stretch for kidnap and torture.  Apparently he didn't actually do the kidnap and torture but was an accomplice.  The guy kidnapped was an underworld criminal.


Towers poo poo'd himself at the weekend. He's not as bad as that performance, he has a career on the domestic circuit.

Irrespective of whether the victim was a villain or a Nobel Prize winner, Towers was a willing participant in a criminal enterprise, I don't care if he did the torture, the driving or went to the shops for Mars bars because people were hungry, he knew what he was doing and whilst it's admirable that he's turned his life around, let's not get carried away. I also saw a fight of his a while back where the only reason he wasn't knocked out cleanly is because his opponent was even poorer than him.

Towers knew he'd (pardon the pun) dodged a bullet that night but doesn't appear to have improved significantly and, it's clear he doesn't take a punch very well. As highlighted on SKY that final flurry of punches hardly connected cleanly yet Towers was all over the shop. Mental faculities all present and correct but legs still awol.

He's garbage but he's more marketable than Aussie joe.......

Hence hatton's misery.

What would David Price give for a back story like Towers' eh? He's be a promotor's wet dream!

Atila wrote:

Nico the gman wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Ricky seems to be a bit of a more extreme Barry McGuigan. Loves the limelight and will do anything to be in it.

I suppose its normal really after the attention and support he got over his career.

But as the years toll on and people start asking "Ricky who?" then we will see him slowly go downhill again I reckon.

Absolute rubbish,people who don't even follow boxing know who Ricky Hatton is,name any fighter who has had the kind of following Hatton has had,Hatton has a personality rather than been a piece of cardboard, wishful thinking on your part more like it.

Everybody seemed to know who Bruno was and as his career ended his life went downhill. Bruno ended up having a stay in a mental institution. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Hatton end up the same way.

Nobodys questioning Hatton hasn't had major problems but to suggest he will be Ricky who is garbage,most people know about Bruno's problems but we don't call him Frank Who.

I personally couldn't care less about Hatton. If he is intent on trying to throw his life away again then that is up to him.

Has has more money in the bank, a young family and everything to live for. If this isn't enough for him then he's more of a waster than I thought.

and I always had you down as a caring and compassionate type !!

Lumbering_Jack wrote:I personally couldn't care less about Hatton. If he is intent on trying to throw his life away again then that is up to him.

Has has more money in the bank, a young family and everything to live for. If this isn't enough for him then he's more of a waster than I thought.

Not disagreeing with you,wish I was  a million behind him,make your bed you lie in it, but Ricky who was a daft comment to make.

Nico the gman wrote:

Atila wrote:

Nico the gman wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Ricky seems to be a bit of a more extreme Barry McGuigan. Loves the limelight and will do anything to be in it.

I suppose its normal really after the attention and support he got over his career.

But as the years toll on and people start asking "Ricky who?" then we will see him slowly go downhill again I reckon.

Absolute rubbish,people who don't even follow boxing know who Ricky Hatton is,name any fighter who has had the kind of following Hatton has had,Hatton has a personality rather than been a piece of cardboard, wishful thinking on your part more like it.

Everybody seemed to know who Bruno was and as his career ended his life went downhill. Bruno ended up having a stay in a mental institution. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Hatton end up the same way.

Nobodys questioning Hatton hasn't had major problems but to suggest he will be Ricky who is garbage,most people know about Bruno's problems but we don't call him Frank Who.

As the fighters get older the younger generation won't know him. Thats my point. Im not saying we will forget.

Ricky will NEVER have experience of 40'000 people following him around. The fact he has already be admitted for depression and drug abuse for this means he is affected by it.

At one point Ricky could barely walk down a street without being mobbed by chanting fans. As the years go on he will be lucky if anyone comes over to him.

I couldn't give a fiddlers about the man. His cry baby routine after the Shenchenko fight was embarrassing. Paul Gascoine got dogs abuse for it.....but Ricky gets pity. Embarrassing.

To a very small degree, I can see where Lumbering is coming from. Hatton had a very public crash and some may not be so quick to be as supportive should he become the architect of his own downfall a second time. No, not a very Christian or even human attitutde but there are others without anywhere near the blessings Hatton has and yet they still manage to avoid pushing the self destruct button despite having every reason to do so.

That being said, I hope it's just a combination of the rigours of promotion and having a young family that's causing him to look like stir fried cr@p these days!

As the years go on and the next generation or two grows of course people will not know who he is.

Unless you think teachers in Schools will have a Ricky Hatton module....

The comment about Bruno was valid.

But, no, everyone in the world from now until eternity will know who Ricky Hatton is...

So only poor people should be allowed to have mental illnesses..........

When I use to help out at AA almost half of the people there were middle class......Most If not all drunk through depression..

It's a misnomer to think mental illness is discriminatory and only picks on the less affluent..feel sorry for everyone who has it..

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:

Nico the gman wrote:

Atila wrote:

Nico the gman wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Ricky seems to be a bit of a more extreme Barry McGuigan. Loves the limelight and will do anything to be in it.

I suppose its normal really after the attention and support he got over his career.

But as the years toll on and people start asking "Ricky who?" then we will see him slowly go downhill again I reckon.

Absolute rubbish,people who don't even follow boxing know who Ricky Hatton is,name any fighter who has had the kind of following Hatton has had,Hatton has a personality rather than been a piece of cardboard, wishful thinking on your part more like it.

Everybody seemed to know who Bruno was and as his career ended his life went downhill. Bruno ended up having a stay in a mental institution. I wouldn't be too surprised to see Hatton end up the same way.

Nobodys questioning Hatton hasn't had major problems but to suggest he will be Ricky who is garbage,most people know about Bruno's problems but we don't call him Frank Who.

As the fighters get older the younger generation won't know him. Thats my point. Im not saying we will forget.

Ricky will NEVER have experience of 40'000 people following him around. The fact he has already be admitted for depression and drug abuse for this means he is affected by it.

At one point Ricky could barely walk down a street without being mobbed by chanting fans. As the years go on he will be lucky if anyone comes over to him.

I couldn't give a fiddlers about the man. His cry baby routine after the Shenchenko fight was embarrassing. Paul Gascoine got dogs abuse for it.....but Ricky gets pity. Embarrassing.

As the years go on people will alway's know who Ricky is much the same as we know who Mr McGuigan is, depression and drug abuse doesn't make you a bad person,and as for Gazza thats one bloke I wish could sort himself out but sadly I fear the worst.

difference between middle class and lower class is that they have more of an opportunity to make themselves happy.

People say money doesn't buy happiness, maybe they are right but it most certainly helps. Hatton has more money than most can dream of.

As Gazza, yet again, falls off the wagon you see how pity turns to something a little less pleasant and it becomes a case of "When will we find him dead in a bedsit somewhere?"

Like TRUSS says, everyone deserves an elements of pity but sadly, when people get chance after chance after chance and, seemingly, still throw it back in the faces of their helpers and supporters you can see why people gradually turn their backs on them. Gazza's own wife walked away from the man and, surely she'd be one to be supportive despite being on the end of some horrific abuse but it just goes to show that not everyone can/will invest the intesnse levels of support required. I'm certain that whilst helping out at AA meetings is admirable, the effort required to cope with an alocholic 24/7 365 days a years is a damn sight more draining on the spirit.

None of us on here have a vested interest in Hatton's welfare and whilst we can offer our best wishes to him, the responsibility for not throwing it all down the toilet rests soley on Hatton's shoulders.

People can be depressed with loving families and lots of money..

it's an illness..............of the mind !!

geez you don't get it.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:People can be depressed with loving families and lots of money..

it's an illness..............of the mind !!

geez you don't get it.

Spot on Truss and horrible to see first hand.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:People can be depressed with loving families and lots of money..

it's an illness..............of the mind !!

geez you don't get it.

Other than certain types of depression which is scientifically proven as a chemical imbalance, I view it as a weakness of character. I don't doubt for one minute it makes people sad/depressed/suicidal but I just don't buy into this whole illness of the mind blurb.

Thank God there are people like me and Nico about.......

If life was full of people like you Mate..........We'd be in a dark place...

But fairplay you are entitled to your opinion and It's welcome on my thread.

Entitled to your opinion Lumbering,a very poor opinion in my opinion,I suggest medical experts would shoot you down in flames.

I watched a 10 steps video for AA before. The guy who presented it is a recovering alcoholic. He is great at putting perspective on the "illness" (which it is).

Alcohol is a poison and some peoples bodies can tolerate it more than others. Think about it, if one of you were to try and drink a glass of raw vodka how would you react too it?? I know I would vomit everywhere after the first gulp.

The guy says that its this tolerance within people who drink more than others and in turn their bodies become dependant on it. There bodys go through trauma when it starts to clear from the system.

I slipped a disc in my back about 6 years ago and was given some pretty crazy painpillers. Over the next 2 years I was taking them they didn't seem to be working that well. I had become dependant on them and when from taking small doses to very high doses. Coming off them was an absolute nightmare but I got there in the end.

Point is, I imagine alcohol is just as harsh if not more when an alcoholic stops drinking and the fact that booze is more easily available than prescription drugs, an alcoholic has a harder time trying to sober up.

Now if this is a weakness in character, actually getting to the point where the body goes through hell then please book me a ticket to the planet where your living.

I believe in Los Angels it's fashionable to be bipolar.

That's a good post reborn...........

Alcohol is the brute of all addictions.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:That's a good post reborn...........

Alcohol is the brute of all addictions.

My uncle died of a massive heart attack due to it. Me and my old fella found him in his bathroom.

Used to make him tea and he would slip vodka into it. Mental. I can barely drink it with lemonade, coke etc. TEA!!

Its worse than most banned drugs.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:That's a good post reborn...........

Alcohol is the brute of all addictions.

Not wanting to play Addiction Top Trumps but undoubtedly there will be people who have friends/relatives on crack and meth who would scoff at that last post.

Alcohol is the brute because it's more widely available and cheaper...........

Still just your opinion which will, I'm sure, be different to that of others who suffer with addicts in their families.

Dave I just mean it kills more people than almost any other drug.

Compare the annual alcohol related deaths with crack/meth related deaths. Not saying the others aren't serious. Just that (as Truss mentioned about it being cheap and available) it kills and causes serious diseases of way more people than practically any other.

DAVE667 wrote:Still just your opinion which will, I'm sure, be different to that of others who suffer with addicts in their families.

I'm not arguing.......Not going to nitpick over a topic as serious as this.................Destroys all families not just the individual.........

Addiction is a fascinating subject to some people. My best mates wife is a psychologist and addiction specialist, she can't get enough of it!

She tells me people with addictions tend to have underlying problems that they never dealt with or mental health problems.

With someone like Ricky, who seems like a thrill seeker, it must be hard to come back down to the mundanity of every day living.

Life wears out our ability to be surprised.

True enough...shame we don't advertise help/alternatives to drinking in the same way they flog e-cigarettes to smokers

Yea people turn their noses up at guys who drink alcohol-free becks etc. Well in the bar I worked in anyway. A lot of bravado when it comes to drink.

Nice to see so many compassionate folk on here. Willing to stand corrected if this is not the case but from the little bits I have read on depression and mental illness I cannot recall anything saying it could not affect the wealthy. Read somewhere that depression and alcoholism where quite common in professions where regimentation and routine are common place that you finish at a young age. Apparently a lot of ex SAS men suffer as all of a sudden they do not have the routine that has dictated their existence for a lot of years. Would imagine not having training and the build up to a fight can leave a similar void and one would have to imagine the buzz of 50,000 people cheering for you takes some replacing.

Have to say whenever you see Ricky now he does not seem particularly full of beans, the effervescence and twinkle in the eye that made him so popular seems to have gone to some extent. Really hope he does find happiness, but like the OP says am not too sure promoting is the answer because as far as professions go it is not one that is noted for its compassion or ethics and so is perhaps not best placed for someone with Ricky’s recent problems.

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:That's a good post reborn...........

Alcohol is the brute of all addictions.

My uncle died of a massive heart attack due to it. Me and my old fella found him in his bathroom.

Used to make him tea and he would slip vodka into it. Mental. I can barely drink it with lemonade, coke etc. TEA!!

Its worse than most banned drugs.

how old was he?

He was 56. Surprised he lasted as long as he did if im being honest.

seanmichaels wrote:

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:That's a good post reborn...........

Alcohol is the brute of all addictions.

My uncle died of a massive heart attack due to it. Me and my old fella found him in his bathroom.

Used to make him tea and he would slip vodka into it. Mental. I can barely drink it with lemonade, coke etc. TEA!!

Its worse than most banned drugs.

how old was he?

Think you've got our resident alcoholic worried...

To be honest I agree with Lumbering Jack. Dont doubt there is medical auses for mental illness, addiction and depression but nowadays there seems to be an obsession to diagnose everyone as a victim. Its nobodys fault for anything. Everyone from the fat guy who cant stay out of McDonalds to Tiger Woods who sadly suffers an illness of attraction to good looking women to Lndsay Lohan who probably has seven or eight confirmed illnesses now is a victim. Ive even read Lance Armstrongs career deception was not really his fault but more the work of a pathological liar who couldnt help himself.

I'm not surprised you think that way as I'm sure nobody else is..

catchweight wrote:To be honest I agree with Lumbering Jack. Dont doubt there is medical auses for mental illness, addiction and depression but nowadays there seems to be an obsession to diagnose everyone as a victim. Its nobodys fault for anything. Everyone from the fat guy who cant stay out of McDonalds to Tiger Woods who sadly suffers an illness of attraction to good looking women to Lndsay Lohan who probably has seven or eight confirmed illnesses now is a victim. Ive even read Lance Armstrongs career deception was not really his fault but more the work of a pathological liar who couldnt help himself.

Yeah but have you seen the head on Hatton recently?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm not surprised you think that way as I'm sure nobody else is..

Yeah you should probably check out to see if your condition of spewing verbal diarrhoea is illness. Im sure it is. Its not your fault though....