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Post by azania Thu 14 Nov 2013, 5:21 pm

It seems to me that most power punchers have dodgy chins. I can only thing of Tyson and Foreman who had solid chins and recently it seems as if GGG has cement implanted in his chin.

Hearns and Benn are two power punchers who have weak chins. I'll ignore Price and probably Wilder.

Anyone else of either?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 14 Nov 2013, 5:25 pm

Shavers, Liston, Tua, Michael Spinks, Rosario, Gomez, Hilton could all take a shot


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Post by Rowley Thu 14 Nov 2013, 5:27 pm

Langford could take a pretty good shot and was a fearsome puncher. You don't spot an opponent 30 odd pound and six inches in height without having a set of whiskers

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 14 Nov 2013, 5:29 pm

Fitz must have had a decent set as well..

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 14 Nov 2013, 5:30 pm

Froch

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Post by Boxtthis Thu 14 Nov 2013, 5:32 pm

I don't count Froch as a power puncher. A hard puncher, yes. But I've never seen him lay someone out with one shot. He's more of an accumulation/bludgeon you type of guy.

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Post by Nico the gman Thu 14 Nov 2013, 5:34 pm

Smokin Joe had a decent chin and Matthew Saad Muhammad both could bang.

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Post by azania Thu 14 Nov 2013, 5:38 pm

Great list truss. The 80s were something.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 14 Nov 2013, 6:17 pm

Edwin Valero could take a punch.

Joe Frazier, GGG and Tyson.

My knowledge of pre 90's boxing is limited so going off videos/user input.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Thu 14 Nov 2013, 6:30 pm

Duran, Chavez, Mosley, Pavlik, Leonard, Marciano

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu 14 Nov 2013, 6:35 pm

So in conclusion, 'most' power punchers in fact do not have dodgy chins.

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Post by azania Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:12 pm

Why don't you name all the power punchers that existed and debate if they had Price chins or not.

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Post by superflyweight Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:29 pm

Was Benn's chin all that dodgy? His biggest issue was that he struggled to avoid punches and tended to block them with his face. It usually took a hell of a punch to knock him over and he showed more than decent powers of recovery on more than one occasion.

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Post by djlovesyou Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:29 pm

azania wrote: I'll ignore Price
Well. At least you had a go.

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Post by hogey Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:34 pm

Dempsey, Ray Robinson, Jeffries, Holyfield (at cruiser) the list is endless.

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Post by azania Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:44 pm

hogey wrote:Dempsey, Ray Robinson, Jeffries, Holyfield (at cruiser) the list is endless.
Was Holy a power puncher? Also JD needed a few punches to put the guy away. Big puncher though.

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Post by hogey Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:48 pm

At Cruiser i would say Holy had big power, Dempsey could certainly hit. Even the best punchers sometimes needs to land a few to put someone away Tyson and Foreman usually done their damage with a volley of shots rather than just one.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:55 pm

Bob Foster was a devestating puncher at light heavy but his chin was not up to the heavyweights.

Ali slapped him.....and he went down.

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Post by azania Thu 14 Nov 2013, 7:59 pm

Haye is a chinny power puncher

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 14 Nov 2013, 8:22 pm

azania wrote:Haye is a chinny power puncher
To be fair to him thats only been proven once in his career against Thompson a very early fight. His stamina is more of an issue imo.

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Post by azania Thu 14 Nov 2013, 8:32 pm

He's been bounced a few times. Once by a zambian goat herder.

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 14 Nov 2013, 8:34 pm

azania wrote:He's been bounced a few times.  Once by a zambian goat herder.
To be fair those guys will Frak anything once theyve tried a goat

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 14 Nov 2013, 8:37 pm

ShahenshahG wrote:
azania wrote:He's been bounced a few times.  Once by a zambian goat herder.
To be fair those guys will Frak anything once theyve tried a goat
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Post by milkyboy Fri 15 Nov 2013, 11:38 am

Never heard of shavers having a great chin before.

There is zero Correlation between a guys punch power and his chin. The reason why the subject of punchers living by the sword and dying by it crops up is that the big bomb throwers regularly leave themselves wide open to a counter. They get hit more frequently and when at their most vulnerable. Not much of a mystery really.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 15 Nov 2013, 11:40 am

Boxtthis wrote:I don't count Froch as a power puncher. A hard puncher, yes. But I've never seen him lay someone out with one shot. He's more of an accumulation/bludgeon you type of guy.
Watch his uppercut against Brain Magee....and that fight was in the balance up until that punch. Absolute clinker, knocked sparkers.
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Post by joeyjojo618 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 11:42 am

Naz had a decent chin from memory. Milky is correct though, its an arbitrary list.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 15 Nov 2013, 11:43 am

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 15 Nov 2013, 11:55 am

Gerard McManaman.

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Post by seanmichaels Fri 15 Nov 2013, 11:57 am

Toney at middle.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 15 Nov 2013, 12:06 pm

seanmichaels wrote:Gerard McManaman.
well it was better than his brother steve's

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Nov 2013, 12:07 pm

Julian Jackson?

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Post by hazharrison Fri 15 Nov 2013, 12:08 pm

In the words of Evander Holyfield "those big punchers can't take no pain".
 
There have been a number of vulnerable power punchers who have generally been boxing's most exciting performers (think Hearns at middleweight, JuanMa Lopez, Arturo Gatti in his original guise, Julian Jackson, Wayne Alexander, Nigel Benn, Tommy Morrison, Frank Bruno, Randall Bailey).
 
There are also the fighters who fall in love with their own power, neglecting their boxing to the extent they fold once someone hits them back (David Price recently, the second coming of Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis prior to Manny Steward, Gerald McClellan etc.).
 
I don't think there's a physical connection to be fair.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 12:30 pm

Pacquiao, great chin and he can bang

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 15 Nov 2013, 12:44 pm

Shane Mosely deserves a mention. He packed a serious whollop in his hayday and has one of the best chins in recent times.

Apologies if he has already been mentioned, cant be assed to read all the comments.
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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 15 Nov 2013, 12:54 pm

Shannon Briggs was a bit of a one-punch wonder, but had a chin that was perhaps not quite so tough...

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Post by joeyjojo618 Fri 15 Nov 2013, 12:59 pm

Really? Briggs had a questionable chin back in the day? Vitali nearly punched his face off and he kept on going. And that was as an old man.

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Post by Nico the gman Fri 15 Nov 2013, 1:25 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Shane Mosely deserves a mention. He packed a serious whollop in his hayday and has one of the best chins in recent times.

Apologies if he has already been mentioned, cant be assed to read all the comments.
At one stage of his career Mosely had the highest KO percentage in world boxing,concrete chin.

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Nov 2013, 2:11 pm

joeyjojo618 wrote:Really? Briggs had a questionable chin back in the day? Vitali nearly punched his face off and he kept on going. And that was as an old man.
Agreed, Lewis in his prime had to beat him with a succession of hurtful shots. Briggs was a tough hombre

What about Tommy Morrison?

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 15 Nov 2013, 2:14 pm

joeyjojo618 wrote:Really? Briggs had a questionable chin back in the day? Vitali nearly punched his face off and he kept on going. And that was as an old man.
Lewis had him down 5 times I think (although he had Lennox on jellylegs himself) and he was KO'd in the 3rd in his first loss by Darroll Wilson I think?

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Post by Guest Fri 15 Nov 2013, 2:17 pm

Mr Bounce wrote:
joeyjojo618 wrote:Really? Briggs had a questionable chin back in the day? Vitali nearly punched his face off and he kept on going. And that was as an old man.
Lewis had him down 5 times I think (although he had Lennox on jellylegs himself) and he was KO'd in the 3rd in his first loss by Darroll Wilson I think?
And he got up again at least four times... against a hard hitting HW in Lennox Lewis. The man had a good chin. Look what Lewis did to Michael Grant, Golota etc etc etc

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 15 Nov 2013, 2:28 pm

Very true Dave. The Cannon had amazing powers of recuperation. And to take that much punishment against Vitali deserves some recognition. I take my original assessment back!

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