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HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
First topic message reminder :
Glasgow Warriorsv Cardiff Blues
Friday 13 December 2013, KO 20:00
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow
Live on Sky Sports
Referee Pascal "I am not George Clancy" Gauzere (France)
Touch Judge 1 Patrick Pechambert (France)
Touch Judge 2 Jean-Luc Rebollal (France)
Fourth Official Philippe Bonhoure (France)
TMO Philippe Bonhoure (France)
Citing Commissioner John Cole (Ireland)
A. HC Form (last 4 games):
1. Warriors
6/12/13
Blues 29 - 20 Glasgow
20/10/13
Glasgow 20 - 16 Chiefs
13/10/13
Toulon 51 - 28 Glasgow
19/1/13
Glasgow 27 - 20 Saints
2. Blues
6/12/13
Blues 29 - 20 Glasgow
19/10/13
Blues 19 - 15 Toulon
13/10/13
Chiefs 44 - 29 Blues
19/1/13
Blues 26 - 14 Sharks
B. Table
C. Teams
1. Warriors
15 Hogg
14 Maitland
13 McGuigan
12 Dunbar
11 Seymour
10 Jackson
09 Matawalu
01 Grant
02 MacArthur
03 Welsh
04 Nakarawa
05 Kellock
06 Harley
07 Holmes
08 Wilson
16 Hall
17 Big Jerry
18 Kalman
19 Strauss
20 Fusaro
21 Cusiter
22 Weir
23 DTH
2. Blues
15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Richard Smith, 12 Rhys Patchell, 11 Harry Robinson, 10 Gareth Davies, 9 Lloyd Williams; 1 Sam Hobbs (c), 2 Kristian Dacey, 3 Taufa'ao Filise, 4 Chris Dicomidis, 5 Filo Paulo, 6 Macauley Cook, 7 Rory Watts-Jones, 8 Robin Copeland.
16 Marc Breeze, 17 Thomas Davies, 18 Benoit Bourrust, 19 James Down, 20 Ellis Jenkins, 21 Andries Pretorius, 22 Lewis Jones, 23 Dan Fish
D. Parliamo Glasgow:
Alphabetty Spaghetti - D.T.H. van der Merwe, wing
Angel - Gabriel Ascarate, centre
Angela - Jon Welsh, prop
Barry - Byron McGuigan, wing
Big Boab - (see Ginger Tackle Monster, the)
Big Mike - (see Coo, the)
Big Naka - Leone Nakarawa, lock/loosie
Bluto - Josh Strauss, loosie/no.8
Centre, the - (see Lesser Messiah, the)
Coo, the - Michael Cusack, prop
Cooseetah - (see Cus)
Cus - Chris Cusiter, scrum half
DTH - (see Alphabetty Spaghetti)
Flippy - (see Toonie)
Fozzy - Christopher Fusaro, loosie
Furra Lineeeee - Peter Horne, centre
Ginger Tackle Monster, the - Rob Harley, loosie
Guns - Tim Swinson, lock
Henners - Henry Pyrgos, scrum half
Hoggy - Stuart Hogg, full back/wing/centre
Ickle Jon - Jonny Gray, lock
Jedi - James Eddie, loosie
Lesser Messiah, the - Richie Vernon, loosie/no.8
Mark of Nazareth - (see Messiah, the)
Meatball, the - Duncan Weir, fly half
Messiah, the/ - Mark Bennett, centre
Niko - Nikola Matawalu, scrum half
Niko's Mate - Jerry Yanuyanutawa, prop
No Maits - Sean Maitland, wing
Rhubarb - Ruaridh Jackson, fly half
Ruck Inspector, the - Alastair Kellock, lock
Schlong - Sean Lamont, centre/wing
Sherlock - Tyrone Holmes, loosie
Shrek - Gordon Reid, prop
Toonie - Gregor Peter John Townsend MBE, head coach
Wee P - Pat MacArthur, hooker
Weegie from Fiji, the - (see Niko)
Glasgow Warriorsv Cardiff Blues
Friday 13 December 2013, KO 20:00
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow
Live on Sky Sports
Referee Pascal "I am not George Clancy" Gauzere (France)
Touch Judge 1 Patrick Pechambert (France)
Touch Judge 2 Jean-Luc Rebollal (France)
Fourth Official Philippe Bonhoure (France)
TMO Philippe Bonhoure (France)
Citing Commissioner John Cole (Ireland)
A. HC Form (last 4 games):
1. Warriors
6/12/13
Blues 29 - 20 Glasgow
20/10/13
Glasgow 20 - 16 Chiefs
13/10/13
Toulon 51 - 28 Glasgow
19/1/13
Glasgow 27 - 20 Saints
2. Blues
6/12/13
Blues 29 - 20 Glasgow
19/10/13
Blues 19 - 15 Toulon
13/10/13
Chiefs 44 - 29 Blues
19/1/13
Blues 26 - 14 Sharks
B. Table
Team | P | W | D | L | F | A | BP | PTS | |
1 | Toulon | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 80 | 56 | 2 | 10 |
2 | Cardiff Blues | 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 77 | 79 | 1 | 9 |
3 | Exeter | 3 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 69 | 63 | 3 | 7 |
4 | Glasgow | 3 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 68 | 96 | 1 | 5 |
1. Warriors
15 Hogg
14 Maitland
13 McGuigan
12 Dunbar
11 Seymour
10 Jackson
09 Matawalu
01 Grant
02 MacArthur
03 Welsh
04 Nakarawa
05 Kellock
06 Harley
07 Holmes
08 Wilson
16 Hall
17 Big Jerry
18 Kalman
19 Strauss
20 Fusaro
21 Cusiter
22 Weir
23 DTH
2. Blues
15 Leigh Halfpenny, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Richard Smith, 12 Rhys Patchell, 11 Harry Robinson, 10 Gareth Davies, 9 Lloyd Williams; 1 Sam Hobbs (c), 2 Kristian Dacey, 3 Taufa'ao Filise, 4 Chris Dicomidis, 5 Filo Paulo, 6 Macauley Cook, 7 Rory Watts-Jones, 8 Robin Copeland.
16 Marc Breeze, 17 Thomas Davies, 18 Benoit Bourrust, 19 James Down, 20 Ellis Jenkins, 21 Andries Pretorius, 22 Lewis Jones, 23 Dan Fish
D. Parliamo Glasgow:
Alphabetty Spaghetti - D.T.H. van der Merwe, wing
Angel - Gabriel Ascarate, centre
Angela - Jon Welsh, prop
Barry - Byron McGuigan, wing
Big Boab - (see Ginger Tackle Monster, the)
Big Mike - (see Coo, the)
Big Naka - Leone Nakarawa, lock/loosie
Bluto - Josh Strauss, loosie/no.8
Centre, the - (see Lesser Messiah, the)
Coo, the - Michael Cusack, prop
Cooseetah - (see Cus)
Cus - Chris Cusiter, scrum half
DTH - (see Alphabetty Spaghetti)
Flippy - (see Toonie)
Fozzy - Christopher Fusaro, loosie
Furra Lineeeee - Peter Horne, centre
Ginger Tackle Monster, the - Rob Harley, loosie
Guns - Tim Swinson, lock
Henners - Henry Pyrgos, scrum half
Hoggy - Stuart Hogg, full back/wing/centre
Ickle Jon - Jonny Gray, lock
Jedi - James Eddie, loosie
Lesser Messiah, the - Richie Vernon, loosie/no.8
Mark of Nazareth - (see Messiah, the)
Meatball, the - Duncan Weir, fly half
Messiah, the/ - Mark Bennett, centre
Niko - Nikola Matawalu, scrum half
Niko's Mate - Jerry Yanuyanutawa, prop
No Maits - Sean Maitland, wing
Rhubarb - Ruaridh Jackson, fly half
Ruck Inspector, the - Alastair Kellock, lock
Schlong - Sean Lamont, centre/wing
Sherlock - Tyrone Holmes, loosie
Shrek - Gordon Reid, prop
Toonie - Gregor Peter John Townsend MBE, head coach
Wee P - Pat MacArthur, hooker
Weegie from Fiji, the - (see Niko)
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
No Maits! Woohoo!
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Oh thank god. We've actually got a game on our hands now.
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Even though the Weege scored minutes after Fusaro was replaced by Holmes. Was Fusaro playing that badly? I think it was a tactical change with Holmes being told to go secure some god damned rucks!
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Well call me optimistic but I think we can go on and win this. So long as clownshoes doesn't do anything too outré.
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Well something had to go right for Glasgow, they made such hard work of that half. Fitness is going to count in this match, it has been frenetic!
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
He certainly did not look happy coming off! Something was not working in the breakdown though!A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:Even though the Weege scored minutes after Fusaro was replaced by Holmes. Was Fusaro playing that badly? I think it was a tactical change with Holmes being told to go secure some god damned rucks!
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Fusaro really brings jack in my opinion, gets about the park but just doesn't turn over the ball enough. Holmes is more physical.
Patchell is playing well, best way to stop that is to keep the ball or make him kick from his 22.
Patchell is playing well, best way to stop that is to keep the ball or make him kick from his 22.
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Matawalu has to come off. He's a great player but he's been making more poor decisions than majestic ones - it kills any momentum Glasgow build and prevents them from establishing a shape.
Glad to see Holmes on, Fusaro has been anonymous at ruck time.
Glad to see Holmes on, Fusaro has been anonymous at ruck time.
Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
We have had no control at the breakdown at all and couldn't have been kinder in repeatedly presenting the ball to Cardiff if we'd sent it with sweeties and a stripper. It was a very pointed substitution and has to point to a justifiable comment about Fozzy.A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:Even though the Weege scored minutes after Fusaro was replaced by Holmes. Was Fusaro playing that badly? I think it was a tactical change with Holmes being told to go secure some god damned rucks!
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Scott Quinnell unable to say the C****** word.
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Sorted that. Is he really a 7?madmaccas wrote:Matawalu has to come off. He's a great player but he's been making more poor decisions than majestic ones - it kills any momentum Glasgow build and prevents them from establishing a shape.
Glad to see Holmes on, Fusaro has beenanonymousrubbish at ruck time.
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
You say that but he made the try. He is always likely to score and then we will forget the rest. We can still win this, just need to slow it down a bitmadmaccas wrote:Matawalu has to come off. He's a great player but he's been making more poor decisions than majestic ones - it kills any momentum Glasgow build and prevents them from establishing a shape.
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Aye.LeinsterFan4life wrote:Very poor attendence.
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What's the attendance? Shame given the way the game is goingCardiff Dave wrote:Aye.LeinsterFan4life wrote:Very poor attendence.
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Any particular reason for it Dave? They have been getting decent crowds at the CAP for the most part.
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Reasons more like.LeinsterFan4life wrote:Any particular reason for it Dave? They have been getting decent crowds at the CAP for the most part.
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
I love how the crowd are abusing Clancy for the TMO's decision
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
One Blues fan going absolutely mental in the backgroud
Anyone else hear that?
Anyone else hear that?
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Crap decision btw
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Horrendous TMO decision
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Harsh decision on that tackle - Weir is only about 5' 9" and it made it look worse than it was. He had his arms out ready to wrap but Weir just bounced off.
Then again, that's the only decision that's gone our way tonight.
Then again, that's the only decision that's gone our way tonight.
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Doesn't matter what height weir is or if he ducked. It was a high tackle
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Good show from Cardiff so far. Wish I was there. Who needs expensive international players?
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I am doing the TV equivalent of leaving the stadium early
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Blues defence has been excellent.
They haven't done much, but they haven't had to do much.
Yet another week for Glasgow where the substitutes have looked much better than the starters.
They haven't done much, but they haven't had to do much.
Yet another week for Glasgow where the substitutes have looked much better than the starters.
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What a finish by Cuthbert
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End of Glasgow's campaign right there...
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Olay, olay olay olay, Cardiff.....Cardiff.
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Great finish from the big man with the boss eye
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Great win for the Blues. Can they do an Edinburgh and reach latter stages of HC whilst finishing in near the bottom of the Rabo?
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Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Not even a bonus point!
Glasgow seem to get worse with every week that passes. A lot of these players are drastically underperforming.
Glasgow seem to get worse with every week that passes. A lot of these players are drastically underperforming.
Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Great try by Cuthbert, what a kick in the teeth.
Small question but were Cardiff back 10 when DTH took it quickly?
Small question but were Cardiff back 10 when DTH took it quickly?
Re: HC, Pool 2, Round 4: Glasgow Warriors v Cardiff Blues
Glasgow went backwards there.
Patchwell MOM.
Patchwell MOM.
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Glasgow defo need more leadership at half back. Glimpses of incisive play but Patchell has directed things a lot better
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Glasgow really need to have a good look at themselves. Basic errors and poor execution.
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Nice try but too little too late
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That Fijian 2nd row is such a good rugby player. Dunno if he will be a good 2nd row though!
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Great for Cardiff. Disastrous for Glasgow. Out of the Heineken by January will this focus them again on the league though
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Very poor performance, two mistakes from Weir were costly although apart from that he played quite well, Matawalu seems to go from the sublime to the ridiculous and it seems to depends on the balance of the two options as to whether or not Glasgow win, Nakarawa was very good although his ball carrying technique needs work and I'm not sure if we can afford both of the Fijians on at once, you have to question the decision to let the best outside centre play for the Sevens team instead of in the Heineken cup. Kellock showed again that he's passed it and doesn't seem to do anything effective as he's too slow to make an impact, he's picked simply for his "big voice" and quite frankly if we're picking players for that reason we might as well put Brian Blessed in the second row. Josh Strauss needs to grow his hair back he doesn't have the same pyschological effect otherwise, Harley needs to become a stronger runner and it's on these occasions that the decision to let Barclay go becomes even more questionable.
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Great ball carrying & offloading 2nd row.LeinsterFan4life wrote:That Fijian 2nd row is such a good rugby player. Dunno if he will be a good 2nd row though!
Might be more suited to back row though.
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He deserved his try.LeinsterFan4life wrote:That Fijian 2nd row is such a good rugby player. Dunno if he will be a good 2nd row though!
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The story of Glasgow's season, killed by their own mistakes and turnovers. Well done to Cardiff, they worked really hard in defence and they sure wanted it.
Something is just not working at the moment, maybe it is the expectation that we should win these games, it just seems to be stifling them. They should have been much to strong up front for them but we just did not play to our strengths. Playing on this pitch just seems to have given them a rush of blood to the head.
This needs some digesting!
Something is just not working at the moment, maybe it is the expectation that we should win these games, it just seems to be stifling them. They should have been much to strong up front for them but we just did not play to our strengths. Playing on this pitch just seems to have given them a rush of blood to the head.
This needs some digesting!
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+1123456789 wrote:Very poor performance, two mistakes from Weir were costly although apart from that he played quite well, Matawalu seems to go from the sublime to the ridiculous and it seems to depends on the balance of the two options as to whether or not Glasgow win, Nakarawa was very good although his ball carrying technique needs work and I'm not sure if we can afford both of the Fijians on at once, you have to question the decision to let the best outside centre play for the Sevens team instead of in the Heineken cup. Kellock showed again that he's passed it and doesn't seem to do anything effective as he's too slow to make an impact, he's picked simply for his "big voice" and quite frankly if we're picking players for that reason we might as well put Brian Blessed in the second row. Josh Strauss needs to grow his hair back he doesn't have the same pyschological effect otherwise, Harley needs to become a stronger runner and it's on these occasions that the decision to let Barclay go becomes even more questionable.
Would add that tonight was the worst I've ever seen DTH play. Hogg also looked off the pace and struggled to make the right decisions at the right times.
Pretty gutting overall.
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Enjoyable game but thought Clancy was poor tonight for both teams.
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Enjoyable game for the neutral and the Cardiff fans, though a few more of them could have turned up. Cardiff have the making of a decent side there, a lot of good young players who clearly just needed to get some game time.IronMike wrote:Enjoyable game but thought Clancy was poor tonight for both teams.
I have no great complaints about the ref, he actually let it flow pretty well. Glasgow managed to loss the game themselves without any help from Mr Clancy!
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I know he's a fans favorite and on his day he's very good, but Matawalu does make some very strange/stupid decisions. He must be a nightmare to play with.
Having him on the wing makes sense as he's still a cracking player, just maybe less so when being asked to make key decisions.
Having him on the wing makes sense as he's still a cracking player, just maybe less so when being asked to make key decisions.
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Glasgow failed somewhat, but a marvelous win for Cardiff nonetheless.
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Cannot blame Clownshoes for that loss. Brainless play lost us the game. Forwards don't play for first 30. Backs dont's play for last 30. WTF is going on at Scotstoun. Right we are out of the Heino so lets feck Kaaahdiff right out of it next week and hope for a miracle.
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