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HC round 2 - Munster vs Perpignan and Toulouse vs Connacht

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sun 08 Dec 2013, 12:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

No thread, so thought I might as well make one.

Munster: Felix Jones; Keith Earls, Casey Laulala, James Downey, Johne Murphy; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Damien Varley, Stephen Archer; Donncha O'Callaghan, Paul O'Connell; Peter O'Mahony (capt), Sean Dougall, James Coughlan.
Replacements: Duncan Casey , James Cronin, BJ Botha, Billy Holland, CJ Stander, Cathal Sheridan, JJ Hanrahan, Denis Hurley

Perpignan: James Hook (capt); Joffrey Michel, Tommaso Benvenuti, Watisoni Votu, Sofiane Guitoune; Camille Lopez, Tom Ecochard; Sebastien Taofifenua, Romain Terrain, Paulica Ion; Luke Charteris, Guillaume Vilaceca' Jean-Pierre Perez, Alasdair Strokosch, Justin Purll
Replacements: Maxime Delonca, Kisi Pulu, Jean Baptiste Custoja, Sebastien Vahaamahina, Dewaldt Duvenage, Tommy Allan, Richard Haughton, Dan Leo,


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Post by wolfball Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:32 pm

Pot Hale wrote:You suspect the quality on the benches is going to make the difference in the Connacht match.  Tired legs are going to tell.
You jest, me Gavin Duffy is on. It's in the bag Wink 

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Post by Golden Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:35 pm

Why was that a penalty to Toulouse surely it was just a knock on? Looks like they might have scored from it

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Post by wolfball Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:35 pm

I can't see a grounding?????? This bloody tmo

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:36 pm

Ref has cost connacht that. That was not a penalty from the knock on

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Post by Golden Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:36 pm

Couldnt see a grounding either. What did the ref ask?

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:40 pm

Wow - this Leicester match is full of try scoring. And TMO decisions.

Montpellier lose a try-scoring opportunity for a forward pass.

35-25 with ten minutes left.

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:41 pm

Parks gets a simple drop goal attempt - and fluffs it.

Toulouse 14-16 Connacht with ten minutes left.

Gonna be a tight finish.
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Post by wolfball Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:43 pm

If this is ireland New Zealand all over again i will cry

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:44 pm

Connacht take advantage of a knock on and kick right up to the try line for a throw in.

They catch. Attack. Toulouse drive them back. They're losing ground. Now on the 22.

But back come the men from the West. Keeping the ball. Punching through for the hard yards.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:45 pm

Late tackle surely??

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:45 pm

Who expected this one to be so tense? Although we should have - Connacht dragged Saracens close to the edge too. Hang in there this time

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:46 pm

That wasnt a knock on!!

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Post by wolfball Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:46 pm

Henshaw came of age. Hope the injury is minot

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:48 pm

Come on Keep patient now...keep shape

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:48 pm

Penalty kick to Connacht. This could be the clincher. A five point margin beckons for Parks.
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:50 pm

And he misses.

Two minutes to go.

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:52 pm

Connacht defending like dervishes.

Ive never seen a dervish tackle but they must be good at it.

30 seconds to go.

Tuslouse looking for the penalty as they work their way up field.
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:52 pm

Time up.

Next dead ball.
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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:53 pm

Wonderful stuff!

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:53 pm

Connacht you complete legends! Yahoo 

What a weekend for irish rugby!

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Post by wolfball Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:53 pm

Yyyyyyedsssssss!!!!!!

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:53 pm

Fully deserved unbelievable!!

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:54 pm

Biggest upset in Heineken cup history?

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:54 pm

And they've done it.

Connacht have beaten Toulouse.

In Toulouse. Brilliant result.
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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:54 pm

Connacht need a new flyhalf that 'runs' a game and they won't be sitting at the bottom. I'm not being hard on Parks but Connacht play to a syle that need a different flyhalf

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Post by stub Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:55 pm

Blimey Connacht - well done! clap 

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Post by rodders Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:56 pm

Wow! Amazing result! If there was a result and a performance to make up for that ABs defeat that was it! What a show of commitment at the end!
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Post by kingjohn7 Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:56 pm

Erm clap thumbsup 
Well done lads, didnt watch the game wish I had. What an incredible result.

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Post by wolfball Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:57 pm

Agree 100% fly. The biggest thig for me was the patience at the end. Lads being very careful not to give penalties at breakdown. And we ran everything. I love it. Now we need to sort out our rabo performances. Also, our scrum was so steady. Everyone competed at the breakdown.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:57 pm

Fully deserved too as i thought their 2nd try should have been awarded and the penalty leading to Toulouse try wasn't a penalty.

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Post by The Saint Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:57 pm

Connacht clap, historic result. This is Ireland's year!

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 4:59 pm

Leicester get their five points against Montpellier.

Wonder what the odds are on Connacht getting a result next weekend at the Sportsground?
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Post by nathan Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:00 pm

Well done lads!

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Post by wolfball Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:01 pm

To think between decisions and out misses what the margin might have been is amazing.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:03 pm

rodders wrote:Wow! Amazing result! If there was a result and a performance to make up for that ABs defeat that was it! What a show of commitment at the end!
Yeah this weekend has been some shot in the arm after that sickener of a result.Thumping wins for Leinster,Ulster and Munster before Connacht pull off the mother of all upsets.The best thing about it was they didn't do it by kicking everything and scoring in 3's they played some seriously good rugby and defended really well.

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Post by Guest Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:03 pm

WOW!!! Well done Connacht!!

Well Done Munster! Wins for all four of the Provinces Yahoo 

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Post by rodders Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:05 pm

wolfball wrote:Agree 100% fly. The biggest thig for me was the patience at the end. Lads being very careful not to give penalties at breakdown. And we ran everything. I love it. Now we need to sort out our rabo performances. Also, our scrum was so steady. Everyone competed at the breakdown.
The key thing was the aggression and line speed in defence in that last 90 seconds, Connacht were out on their feet but they refused to allow Toulouse into drop goal/penalty range - it was heroic , the stuff of legend.
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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:06 pm

It all needs to be repeated now.  No I'm not isolating Connacht.  The Irish consistency thing must be dealt with by all sides now in readiness for the same efforts next week.

Connacht are under less pressure to repeat than the others but they certainly now have a bigger carrot than the other three!  A double win against Toulouse would really bulk up the confidence levels.

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:07 pm

Some bad/good results over the weekend.

Castres bore Ospreys to death.
Cardiff duke it out with Glasgow and win.
Quins demolish Racing Metro.
Ulster demolish Treviso.
Leicester win a humdinger against Montpellier.
Clermont dispatch Scarlets.
Saracens romp against Zebre
Toulon scrape home against Exeter.
Leinster stun Northampton
Gloucester tough it out against Edinburgh
Munster demolish Perpignan
Connacht shock Toulouse.

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Post by wolfball Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:08 pm

We need to beat Toulouse at home. None of this heroic minnow nonsense. Show the heads of European rugby we are worth our place.

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:10 pm

Rodders: The key thing was the aggression and line speed in defence in that last 90 seconds, Connacht were out on their feet but they refused to allow Toulouse into drop goal/penalty range - it was heroic , the stuff of legend.
Yeah, the line speed was sensational time and time again.  And as all guys are saying - there was no panic in it - it was doing a job they drilled themselves to do and they stuck to it even as the time ran down and nerves might have hit them.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:10 pm

You already have woftball in my eyes. I'm not sure Connacht need to prove anymore that they deserve to be there. Anybody who thinks orherwise is deluded.

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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:13 pm

Noves will look at that line speed though and try to design feints to outwit it now. So training will have to be alive to what Toulouse will have learned from this encounter and try to anticipate it

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Post by GLove39 Sun 08 Dec 2013, 5:43 pm

Bloody hell! Just seen the score, well played Connacht clap
Bottom of the Rabo v 2nd in the Top14 what a shocker!

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Post by toml Sun 08 Dec 2013, 6:04 pm

Hope this is enough to stop yet more Connacht player pilfering from the other provinces.
Yes they are having a tough season but left to develop and they will start to provide a decent number of internationals.

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Post by Feckless Rogue Sun 08 Dec 2013, 6:13 pm

Why have their league results been so poor this year? I didn't think they had it in them to beat Toulouse.
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Post by SecretFly Sun 08 Dec 2013, 6:23 pm

I think I'd be much more surprised that they can't seem to get wins in Pro12 more than I'd genuinely be surprised at this win.

No, I didn't expect them to beat Toulouse, I'm not going that far.  But I regard them much more as a side that can win these kinds of games than the side that can't seem to win in Pro12.

I think a few player changes and their fortunes in Pro12 would change quite dramatically

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 08 Dec 2013, 6:30 pm

SecretFly wrote:I think I'd be much more surprised that they can't seem to get wins in Pro12 more than I'd genuinely be surprised at this win.

No, I didn't expect them to beat Toulouse, I'm not going that far.  But I regard them much more as a side that can win these kinds of games than the side that can't seem to win in Pro12.

I think a few player changes and their fortunes in Pro12 would change quite dramatically
They had Henshaw at 15 which wasn't the case in a lot of their pro 12 game, with the exception of Poolman and Faloon (but he is not better than Heenan) they had a full team out today.

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Post by Golden Sun 08 Dec 2013, 6:42 pm

Really think a player like Madigan would suit this Connacht team perfectly. If they had someone like that I think they would be a mid table team atm. Not that I'm blaming Parks for their position but his style doesnt really suit the rugby they play.

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Post by The Saint Sun 08 Dec 2013, 6:49 pm

wolfball wrote:We need to beat Toulouse at home. None of this heroic minnow nonsense. Show the heads of European rugby we are worth our place.
Would much prefer you to beat Sarries, just so I can read all the hilarious excuses on here from their No.1 fan Very Happy.

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