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Post by summerblues Sat 28 Dec 2013, 3:21 pm

First topic message reminder :

Finally, the wait is over.  The new tennis season is starting tomorrow in Brisbane, with Qatar and Chennai joining in on Monday.

Djokovic will not play until Melbourne, but Rafa, David and Andy are all in action in Qatar.  Other notables include Berdych, Davydenko, Gasquet, Gulbis and Monfils.

In Brisbane, Federer is the No 1 seed (he should enjoy it, there may not be many more tournaments like that).  Overall, the field is much weaker than in Qatar, with Nishikori seeded at No 2 and Simon at No 3.  Still, there are some interesting players to watch.  The field includes Grigorov, Duckworth and Kyrgios, as well as Cilic.

Chennai has the weakest field, with Wawrinka and Youzhny seeded at #1 and #2.  Vasek Pospisil (an ethnic Czech from Canada) and Jiri Vesely (an ethnic Czech from the Czech Republic) being the two youngsters to watch there.

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Post by lydian Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:04 pm

Looks like Foggy retired at 5-5 2nd set so the injury is the likely reason for Yuki doing so well?

This event is jinxed, that's something like 5-6 retirements during the event and its only early on yet!

Given loads of women are also injured on WTA I wonder if many are overtraining in the short offseason to cope with the gruelling demands of the modern physical game?
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Post by LuvSports! Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:07 pm

Hope not, but could explain the 6-1 first set loss.
Was hoping an unpolished Indian gem had been found!

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:07 pm

Bhambri wins by retirement. Foggy. Sad

Looking forward to Nadal-Gulbis on a fast court. Will Gulbis put up a fight?

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Post by LuvSports! Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:10 pm

This is his best chance to beat rafa imo.

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:11 pm

LuvSports! wrote: Was hoping an unpolished Indian gem had been found!

Not the Koh-i-Noor that you were expecting? He is a journeyman by definition, agreed upon previously in this thread. Wink

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Post by lydian Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:12 pm

Youzhny had retired too vs Sela...so that's the 2nd and 3rd seeds out early vs guys they wouldn't have problems with really...Chennai organisers must be delighted!

Yep, it's a fast court and Gulbis you just know will be all flat-guns blazing. Given Nadal still looks off his best this has to be an absolutely golden opportunity for Gulbis you feel...in fact I put Gulbis favourite based on their past matches. Nadal doesn't like playing Gulbis at all, and Ernests isn't scared of Rafa one iota, in fact I think he relishes the opportunity each time because he knows he has the weapons and game plan to down Rafa. In effect, he's a much better version of Rosol - he should be top 10 really, alas....
Should be interesting.
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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:18 pm

Quite agree that Gulbis is Top 10 material, but much the likes of Nalbandians of the world, mental strength differences become crucial at this level.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Thu 02 Jan 2014, 1:19 pm

lydian wrote:Looks like Foggy retired at 5-5 2nd set so the injury is the likely reason for Yuki doing so well?

This event is jinxed, that's something like 5-6 retirements during the event and its only early on yet!

Given loads of women are also injured on WTA I wonder if many are overtraining in the short offseason to cope with the gruelling demands of the modern physical game?

4 retirements and 1 w/o in the first 18 matches.

Going back to celebrity coaches, I heard Bhambri is working with Dhumbro

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Post by lydian Thu 02 Jan 2014, 2:03 pm

Sounds good JHM...does that mean Tommy Haas is going to sign up with Mickey Maas?
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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 2:07 pm

Bhambri should fire DHumbro and hire Paes or Bhupathi.

Haas should try Schuettler.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Thu 02 Jan 2014, 2:23 pm

lydian wrote:Sounds good JHM...does that mean Tommy Haas is going to sign up with Mickey Maas?

In cricket, Graeme Swann was coached by Donald Duck. He kept getting out for 0.

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Post by lydian Thu 02 Jan 2014, 2:47 pm

...and Aussie l'enfant terrible Bernard coached by Tomic Jerry?
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Post by LuvSports! Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:14 pm

Not watching but Rafa took the first set 7-5  steam 
ANyone watching?
How are both players playing? Errors from Gulbis? Better from Rafa?

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Post by LuvSports! Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:20 pm

I thought this would go 3 sets, with gulbis finally getting the win! Sad
Well he's just broken for 2-0, long way to go.

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:22 pm

Gulbis breaks, but perhaps too early to make a difference to Nadal. Too many errors from Gulbis. Gulbis serving well, but Nadal looks good.

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Post by LuvSports! Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:30 pm

Similar to their matches of last year LF?

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Post by Danny_1982 Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:39 pm

I love watching Gulbis. He throws out the percentages and just goes for it. Looks spectacular when it comes off, and you wonder why he isn't top 6.... Then he plants the next 5 attempts into the middle of the net and you understand.

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:40 pm

Nadal gets the break back. Back on serve.

Gulbis looked much more confident last year. The IW and Rome matches were, IMO, better from Gulbis's standpoint.

Now a third set looks unlikely.

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:42 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:I love watching Gulbis. He throws out the percentages and just goes for it. Looks spectacular when it comes off, and you wonder why he isn't top 6.... Then he plants the next 5 attempts into the middle of the net and you understand.

Did Lydian call him a better version of Rosol?

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:43 pm

BP for Gulbis. and misses a FH on second serve. Deuce.

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:47 pm

DF from Gulbis. 0-30. This is getting close to being done. 15-30 at 217kmph.

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:50 pm

30-40 with FH error from Nadal. Deuce with Nadal going wide.

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:51 pm

Nice drop and court coverage from Gulbis. Deuce.

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Post by Danny_1982 Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:52 pm

laverfan wrote:
Danny_1982 wrote:I love watching Gulbis. He throws out the percentages and just goes for it. Looks spectacular when it comes off, and you wonder why he isn't top 6.... Then he plants the next 5 attempts into the middle of the net and you understand.

Did Lydian call him a better version of Rosol?

Yeah I'd go with that. Quite a bit better though. He has top 10 ability everywhere but between the ears for me.

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Post by laverfan Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:52 pm

Net-chord and Nadal has a break.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Thu 02 Jan 2014, 6:59 pm

Gulbis can go head to head in long rallies with Rafael but when it comes down to it he is just too inconsistent. Whereas Rafael perhaps makes one error in ten it seems Gulbis makes around three mistakes in ten.
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Post by lydian Thu 02 Jan 2014, 7:32 pm

Good win for Rafa, but Gulbis wasn't as good as he can be. Rafa neither, although good at the net, but he's getting better after the first 2 mediocre matches. Gulbis makes the wrong shot selection a lot of the time...too many low % choices...if he could cut that out his results would change overnight because his matches with the top guys are always close but when the crunch comes he presses even harder. For example in the last game he went for 2 DTL BH winners...both missing narrowly. Very watchable though.
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Post by Danny_1982 Thu 02 Jan 2014, 8:27 pm

Gulbis is like 2011 Murray in a tangent universe, or a universe where everything is opposite. Where Murray couldn't let go of the percentage play, Gulbis tells safety todo one and just goes for it. Shame as his serve, movement, and front foot ability is great. Unfortunately, he plays a lot of defensive shots as though he were on the front foot.

However I get the impression that there's really no changing him. He seems very content to win or lose as long as he does it his way. I don't get the impression he stays up all night wondering what he needs to change to make a breakthrough.

Mrs_1982 likes him though. Thinks he's a loose cannon. Bad boy rogue.

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Post by laverfan Fri 03 Jan 2014, 12:08 am

Danny_1982 wrote: I don't get the impression he stays up all night wondering what he needs to change to make a breakthrough.

Gulbis's father does that on his behalf.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 9:40 am

If he had the need/hunger he could undoubtedly reach No.1. imo .. he has extraordinary talent.. but poor attitude and application.. with no dedication. He is without doubt a rogue.. and not a lovable one either. Poor little rich boy.

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Post by laverfan Fri 03 Jan 2014, 1:21 pm

Haddie-nuff wrote:If he had the need/hunger he could undoubtedly reach No.1. imo .. he has extraordinary talent.. but poor attitude and application.. with no dedication. He is without doubt a rogue.. and not a lovable one either. Poor little rich boy.

Your are being a tad bit harsh on the boy. His father's wealth is not his burden to carry. Watching him win at DelRay and LA tourneys made it clear that a bit more pushing could easily polish the rough edges. The way Piles locked up Ferrer, perhaps Gulbis needs a similar hard task master to bring forth and showcase his talent. He is 25 now and a years worth of hard work would pay handsome dividends, IMVHO. It would be very nice to see his shotmaking ability in a slam SF/F without the mental blemishes he carries today.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 1:25 pm

Well just as well LF we have different opinions and it is seldom that you and I agree ... New Year but things haven´t changed Wink 
That imo of Gulbis and always has been

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 03 Jan 2014, 3:36 pm

Wow gojowczyk has won 12/13 points vs rafa and leads 3-0!
Rafa tanking?

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 3:46 pm

 
LuvSports! wrote:Wow gojowczyk has won 12/13 points vs rafa and leads 3-0!
Rafa tanking?


 laughing laughing  as if

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 03 Jan 2014, 3:52 pm

He did at the tail end of last year.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 3:57 pm

This is the beginning of this year and he has never won Doha... and to tank to such a low ranked player ??? give it up LS If he loses its because the lad won it

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 03 Jan 2014, 4:13 pm

Give it up?
Tell that to these guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ6GzmrGHOY !!!

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 4:15 pm

Rolling Eyes 

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Post by TopoftheChops Fri 03 Jan 2014, 4:18 pm

Granollers beat Paire in chennai, he's such a poor pusher and got lucky

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 03 Jan 2014, 4:25 pm

 picard 
Paire served for it twice.

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 03 Jan 2014, 5:30 pm

Nadal through in 3.

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Post by lydian Fri 03 Jan 2014, 7:14 pm

TopoftheChops wrote:Granollers beat Paire in chennai, he's such a poor pusher and got lucky
...and Paire is overrated for all the fawning over him.
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Post by lydian Fri 03 Jan 2014, 7:19 pm

LuvSports! wrote:He did at the tail end of last year. 
How so? This is almost blatant wummery, Nadal is just about the last player on tour to tank a match.
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Post by kingraf Fri 03 Jan 2014, 7:26 pm

had this been anything but a final, I'd give LaMonf a good shot at beating Nadal... but in a final situation, Surely only one winner?
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Post by shivfan Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:06 pm

One thing about Monfils...he can play some exciting tennis, in an era dominated by boring robots.
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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:13 pm

shivfan wrote:One thing about Monfils...he can play some exciting tennis, in an era dominated by boring robots.


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Post by laverfan Fri 03 Jan 2014, 8:29 pm

Haddie-nuff wrote:Well just as well LF we have different opinions and it is seldom that you and I agree ... New Year but things haven´t changed Wink 
That imo of Gulbis and always has been

Disagreements are always welcome, H-n. rose I wish and hope Gulbis can do more with what he has.

IIRC, Gumy took leave of Tennis to become a parent and Canas did not last long in the stead.

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 03 Jan 2014, 9:21 pm

lydian wrote:
LuvSports! wrote:He did at the tail end of last year. 
How so? This is almost blatant wummery, Nadal is just about the last player on tour to tank a match.

I think he tanked vs Ferrer in Paris last year.
One week he gets beat comfortably by ferrer a few days later he batters ferrer.
You won't agree but I think players tank matches sometimes. They do it with fellow countrymen imo.
This isn't wummery.

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Post by LuvSports! Fri 03 Jan 2014, 9:32 pm

kingraf wrote:had this been anything but a final, I'd give LaMonf a good shot at beating Nadal... but in a final situation, Surely only one winner?

The 2 times that Monfils has beat Nadal it has been at Doha. Once in 2009 and the other was in 2012. So he has a chance.
But yes in a final, rafa is the hot favourite despite these losses.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Fri 03 Jan 2014, 10:08 pm

LuvSports! wrote:
lydian wrote:
LuvSports! wrote:He did at the tail end of last year. 
How so? This is almost blatant wummery, Nadal is just about the last player on tour to tank a match.

I think he tanked vs Ferrer in Paris last year.
One week he gets beat comfortably by ferrer a few days later he batters ferrer.
You won't agree but I think players tank matches sometimes. They do it with fellow countrymen imo.
This isn't wummery.

Well if it isn´t you sure do a good impression  Very Happy

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