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Post by hogey Sun 02 Mar 2014, 10:02 pm

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Lots of rumours flying about and also some hints from Floyd and Broner himself that he might fight Khan in May on Floyd's under card. That would be a very good support fight and would undoubtedly help shift PPVs

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 03 Mar 2014, 4:22 pm

I mention 1 fighter who wouldn't even get into anyone's Top 20 Brit lists.

Ergo, that fact he achieved it is not a determinant of 'special'.

That some of the people that have done it WERE special, does not mean that anyone who does, is.

Broner's 'third weight' world title was scraped past a divisional gate-keeper and subsequently lost after getting slapped all round the ring by another gate-keeper. That doesn't make him, or his achievement, 'special'.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 03 Mar 2014, 4:29 pm

You mentioned only one fighter achieving the accolade.......In 130 years.........

So If it was that easy more would have done it ...No ??..

You spin like a Tory............No wonder you're flagging ..

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Post by catchweight Mon 03 Mar 2014, 5:40 pm

Mayweather has told Khan that if he beats Broner on his undercard he will be up next. But says Broner will beat him.

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Post by Guest Mon 03 Mar 2014, 5:47 pm

No doubt it's another ruse to get Khan to humiliate himself for a few scraps from Mayweather's table.

"I ain't fightin' Khan, I'm a Marquee fighter who fights other Marquee fighters. He be fightin' on undercards an' sh!t. That ain't gonna bring me no money"

"Floyd, you told him to fight on your undercard"

"That don't mean sh!t. When I fight, people want to watch...when he fights, most people still be eatin' fries an' Poopie at the slot machines. He ain't no Marquee fighter, I'm a Marquee fighter"

"Floyd, if you don't stop saying 'Marquee fighter' I'm going to put slapping Carl Froch on hold for saying ' Warrior' a lot, come over there and kick the living cr@p out of you."

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Post by Rodney Mon 03 Mar 2014, 6:37 pm

I'll stick with my original prediction on Superflys article and Khan on PTS, busier better footwork not without some hairy moments to win a close but not controversial decision. I'd be rooting for Amir

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 03 Mar 2014, 6:50 pm

I don't see what Broner does to trouble Khan, he isn't a pressure fighter with a big punch, their respective levels can be summed up by the way they handled Malignaggi and Maidana.

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 03 Mar 2014, 6:56 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:I don't see what Broner does to trouble Khan, he isn't a pressure fighter with a big punch, their respective levels can be summed up by the way they handled Malignaggi and Maidana.

This!!

Judah, Malignaggi, Kotelnik, all known more as 'boxers' ...Khan handled them all with relative ease. I suspect he does the same with Broner who for my money has worse footwork than both Judah and Paulie and clearly hasn't the power at 147...even if Khan's chin is suspect only Garcia (with a huge shot & whose known as a puncher) and Prescott (again huge shot and big puncher) have managed to stop him and Broner doesn't punch as hard as either of those.

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Post by hazharrison Mon 03 Mar 2014, 7:33 pm

I think it's a good fight - holds far more intrigue then Mayweather-Maidana.

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Post by Strongback Mon 03 Mar 2014, 7:46 pm


Floyd Mayweather‏@FloydMayweather·5 mins

I don't have an easy fight on May 3, 2014, so I can't over look @ChinoMaidana but @AmirKingKhan, if you and @AdrienBroner end up fighting each other on my show and you win (which you won’t)... I'll fight you.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Mon 03 Mar 2014, 7:59 pm

HAHAHAHAHA @ FLOYD.

Khan beats Broner via UD but will most likely get knocked out and not fulfill his potential as per normal.

So frustrating

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 03 Mar 2014, 8:48 pm

Depends what weight this fight is at. 

Broner's camp said his next fight would be at 140. 

So Broner-Khan might be a catch weigh around 144lbs. 

Khan might start off quick, but I'd back Broner to land a huge shot on Khan somewhere down the stretch. 

Broner by KO for me.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 03 Mar 2014, 9:10 pm

Where is this huge power?

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Post by Gerry SA Mon 03 Mar 2014, 9:27 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Where is this huge power?
Doesn't even need to be huge power. 

Julio Diaz dropped and hurt Khan. And he's hardly Thomas Hearns...

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Post by AlexHuckerby Mon 03 Mar 2014, 9:28 pm

Don't think you need huge power to hurt Khan though, Willie Limond had him all over the place, so did Gomez, Prescott had him sparked, Garcia had him sparked, Diaz had him down and wobbled a few times, Maidana had him all over the place however Khan showed a lot in that fight and held it off,but mainly due to Maidana being inaccurate and tired in my view, Peterson backed him up and hurt him, so it's not really mental to think if Broner catches him with a big clean one he can knock him out...

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 03 Mar 2014, 9:30 pm

Broner has had two fights above lightweight and neither time did he put a dent in his opponent, Khans chins problems are blown way out of proportion, you do need to have power to keep him down.

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Post by 3fingers Mon 03 Mar 2014, 10:44 pm

Maidana was in no trouble in the 12th, he took some big shots but was never wobbled. He sensibly backed off when necessary.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 04 Mar 2014, 9:42 am

Gerry SA wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Where is this huge power?
Doesn't even need to be huge power. 

Julio Diaz dropped and hurt Khan. And he's hardly Thomas Hearns...

That the guy Khan beat, right?

Gerry on the wum again...... Rolling Eyes

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Post by Gerry SA Tue 04 Mar 2014, 11:01 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Gerry SA wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Where is this huge power?
Doesn't even need to be huge power. 

Julio Diaz dropped and hurt Khan. And he's hardly Thomas Hearns...

That the guy Khan beat, right?

Gerry on the wum again...... Rolling Eyes
Maybe you should go back to school and learn how to read...

The question was 'where's Broner's huge power'. 

I stated a former lightweight, like Broner, dropped Khan. And Diaz has never been a puncher. 

As for Khan 'beating' Diaz, had the fight been in the USA Diaz would've got the decision. 

You can go back to Khan's bed now...

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Post by Eyetoldyouso Tue 04 Mar 2014, 11:06 am

Let's face it, Mayweather needs a decent undercard on May 3. If not, he won't be making as much of the money he so desperately desires.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 04 Mar 2014, 11:07 am

Think you need to go back to tossing that bum Vasquez's salad, clearly don't have a clue else what you're talking about.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 04 Mar 2014, 11:11 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:Think you need to go back to tossing that bum Vasquez's salad, clearly don't have a clue else what you're talking about.

Don't know which is more amusing........

Vasquez being a bum...........

Or this guy having a pop at another poster's knowledge....

Just calm down Toppy..........There is a good boy.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 04 Mar 2014, 11:16 am

What's more amusing is someone having even less knowledge than me.......

The 'bum' comment was just a jibe, given that he rates Mikey Garcia as one pretty much.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 04 Mar 2014, 11:20 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:What's more amusing is someone having even less knowledge than me.......

I can see the humor in that..

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue 04 Mar 2014, 11:23 am

Though even more amusing is for someone with so little knowledge to be able to deconstruct your arguments (those of someone with quite considerable knowledge) with such ease....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 04 Mar 2014, 11:50 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:Though even more amusing is for someone with so little knowledge to be able to deconstruct your arguments (those of someone with quite considerable knowledge) with such ease....

Which poster are you talking about ?? Cool 

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 04 Mar 2014, 1:08 pm

Diaz the first man to keep Chavez down for the count was never a noted puncher?

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Post by Strongback Tue 04 Mar 2014, 1:23 pm

Khan on Twitter

"FM is full of sh1t. Just like ' my next opponent ' Poll."


"Back to uk on Wednesday for few weeks to train and spar."


Doesn't sound like a man who is fighting Broner on the Mayweather card.







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Post by Gerry SA Tue 04 Mar 2014, 2:56 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Diaz the first man to keep Chavez down for the count was never a noted puncher?
Julio Diaz has never faced Julio Cesar Chavez Snr.

Julio Diaz KOd Jesus Chavez.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue 04 Mar 2014, 5:58 pm

I thought that was pretty self explanatory to be honest Gerry. The statement I made is factually correct yet you claim Diaz was never a puncher.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed 05 Mar 2014, 9:53 am

Fair play to Khan last night, managed to be more funnyman than a-hole for once and was good value ripping into Broner.

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Post by Lance Wed 05 Mar 2014, 7:28 pm

Khan Broner would be interesting. Wonder how much desire Khan has left these days. Also how will Broner react to his first defeat. a lot of unknowns about this one. the broner who lost to maidana and struggled with paulie would almost definately lose. but maybe after tasting defeat he will go back to the drawing board, improve his fitness, tighten his defence, and fight with more focus. couldnt see either guy getting stopped. khan will be faster in there, but is broner good enough to work him out and time him coming in. he would have to be at his sharpest.

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Post by milkyboy Wed 05 Mar 2014, 10:16 pm

Gerry/hammer. Re: chavez diaz fight. It's recorded as a ko - because chavez was indeed counted out. But it wasn't from a punch... He injured a knee and couldn't stand up.

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Post by catchweight Wed 05 Mar 2014, 10:39 pm

boxrec fail

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 05 Mar 2014, 10:48 pm

milkyboy wrote:Gerry/hammer. Re: chavez diaz fight. It's recorded as a ko - because chavez was indeed counted out. But it wasn't from a punch... He injured a knee and couldn't stand up.
I think i'm getting confused with the Mayweather fight Milky, for somebody who had such a chronic knee problem he didn't half carve out a decent career. He did have the misfortune of killing somebody which derailed his career almost entirely, had a great chin but not quite the mental toughness to go with it, should have checked which fight his knee failed in fairness.

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Post by catchweight Wed 05 Mar 2014, 10:52 pm

Just admit you looked it up on boxrec. Its ok.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 05 Mar 2014, 10:57 pm

You bore me catchweight

In fairness I thought his knee injury was against Linares, a recurrence of the injury he was carrying in the Mayweather fight. In almost every single fight he had his left knee I think it was heavily strapped up.

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Post by catchweight Wed 05 Mar 2014, 11:01 pm

You got exposed and are trying to regain credibility by pretending you were thinking of a different fight and know all about Chavez. What we have all known all along.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 05 Mar 2014, 11:03 pm

Imagine getting confused when there were three Diaz's fighting at Lightweight at the same time.

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Post by catchweight Wed 05 Mar 2014, 11:06 pm

How is that relevant? What happened was you scanned Diaz on boxrec and took it for granted he knocked Chavez out with a punch and then dived into an argument about how this proved he was a "noted" puncher.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 05 Mar 2014, 11:08 pm

It's called a mistake, big deal, get over it.

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Post by Strongback Thu 06 Mar 2014, 1:04 am

People should only single out Hammer for his Boxrec'ing when he makes an obvious blunder.

This is one of these instances.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Thu 06 Mar 2014, 2:28 am

I think 2/3 years ago, that the Khan then would have taken a UD from Broner but now I'm not so sure - Khan has gone backwards, very quickly after the Garcia/Peterson fights. Its as if he's lost his swagger and confidence. He seems to have this inane desire to show everyone how tough he is and although he got away with it against Maidana I'd have to say that Broner is likely to win via UD. Khan taking the early rounds but then Broner scoring some 10 - 8's in rounds 7+

Bear in mind that Maglinaggi was beaten. Not convincingly, but he was beaten by Broner. Maidana made Broner look silly at points and Broners power hasn't carried up but the way Khan has looked in his last 2 fights it would be a sensible bet that someone at Broners level would beat him. i'd say Maglinaggi beats him now, as would Maidana. Its a shame, because Khan was showing real promise and does have incredible speed but the brain of a brawler when challenged to a standup. its frustrating more than anything.

Its unlikely to happen, Khan won't fight on a FM undercard, he thinks he's too big for that. He was, but he isn't now.

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