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Toulon Rugby Team Page
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Manager - Gloucester Bear
Club Captain - Byron Kelleher
Vice Captain - Kelly Brown
Squad Numbers - 28
Budget - 21 million
Hookers
John Smit
Benoit August
Props
Fabien Barcella
Neemia Tialata
Mike Ross(Loan)
Locks
Danie Rossouw
Louis Deacon
Anthony Boric
Flankers
Dan Lydiate
Joe Van Niekerk
Ben McCalman
Sam Warburton
Ashley Johnson
Scrum Half
Byron Kelleher
Chris Cusiter
Fly Half
Toby Flood
Stephen Donald
Centres
Jonathan Davies
Seilala Mapasua
David Marty
Anthony Fainga'a
Wingers
Leigh Halfpenny
Alesana Tuilagi
Rod Davies
Vincent Clerc
Full Backs
Keith Earls
Starting 15
1.Fabien Barcella
2.John Smit
3.Neemia Tialata
4.Anthony Boric
5.Danie Rossouw
6.Joe Van Niekerk
7.Sam Warburton
8.Ben McCalman
9.Byron Kelleher
10.Toby Flood
11.Vincent Clerc
12.Seilala Mapasua
13.David Marty
14.Leigh Halfpenny
15.Keith Earls
Manager - Gloucester Bear
Club Captain - Byron Kelleher
Vice Captain - Kelly Brown
Squad Numbers - 28
Budget - 21 million
Hookers
John Smit
Benoit August
Props
Fabien Barcella
Neemia Tialata
Mike Ross(Loan)
Locks
Danie Rossouw
Louis Deacon
Anthony Boric
Flankers
Dan Lydiate
Joe Van Niekerk
Ben McCalman
Sam Warburton
Ashley Johnson
Scrum Half
Byron Kelleher
Chris Cusiter
Fly Half
Toby Flood
Stephen Donald
Centres
Jonathan Davies
Seilala Mapasua
David Marty
Anthony Fainga'a
Wingers
Leigh Halfpenny
Alesana Tuilagi
Rod Davies
Vincent Clerc
Full Backs
Keith Earls
Starting 15
1.Fabien Barcella
2.John Smit
3.Neemia Tialata
4.Anthony Boric
5.Danie Rossouw
6.Joe Van Niekerk
7.Sam Warburton
8.Ben McCalman
9.Byron Kelleher
10.Toby Flood
11.Vincent Clerc
12.Seilala Mapasua
13.David Marty
14.Leigh Halfpenny
15.Keith Earls
Last edited by GloucesterBear on Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:32 am; edited 73 times in total
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globear - i would check with pull first mate about what blogs has done - you may still have those players.
cant see pul allowing to change it after its gone through and only part of the deal
cant see pul allowing to change it after its gone through and only part of the deal
BANAFAN-AKA-HON- Posts : 1553
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If them deals were accepted something did catch my eye but its gone :/. Gaps are just too large between players you want
CJB- Posts : 5762
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Beale is not leaving. You could offer your lineup for him I wouldn't take it.
Yer Albacete is better but minimally and the ratings are reversing imo.
Gap between Kaino + Mccalman is huge. I'm losing the second best 6 in the world for a player with 4 caps and probably only just about edging top 10. He wouldn't start for me. It'd be a suicidal deal to do from my perspective.
Hayman I can see why you are offering but I'd need a huge gain as I don't rate Nel. Only person that will is Blogs...
Jane needs Guildford and a big gain. I honestly think the only place you improve my lineup is Woodcock but that isnt enough. Oh and Kelleher slightly >
Yer Albacete is better but minimally and the ratings are reversing imo.
Gap between Kaino + Mccalman is huge. I'm losing the second best 6 in the world for a player with 4 caps and probably only just about edging top 10. He wouldn't start for me. It'd be a suicidal deal to do from my perspective.
Hayman I can see why you are offering but I'd need a huge gain as I don't rate Nel. Only person that will is Blogs...
Jane needs Guildford and a big gain. I honestly think the only place you improve my lineup is Woodcock but that isnt enough. Oh and Kelleher slightly >
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1 No idea who you go for, think it will be a New Zealander though. That is what you are doing isn't it!
Beattie > McCalman.
I'd have to think because its short term gain for me, long term loss so will think about it
Beattie > McCalman.
I'd have to think because its short term gain for me, long term loss so will think about it
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Well it's been cancelled
Look at a 2nd choice backrow. The likes of Messam and Todd
Look at a 2nd choice backrow. The likes of Messam and Todd
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Could maybe do:
Hamilton + Weepu + Roko
=
Kelleher + Poitrenaud + Guildford
Hamilton + Weepu + Roko
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Kelleher + Poitrenaud + Guildford
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Thanks for the team assessment mate, i agree in some areas.
Kubrishvili is a quality prop, highly rated and had a storming top14 season, destroying props across France! He was as high as 4/5 in some peoples top tens, but about 6th overall i reckon.
Maitland isn't a weakness either, probably my most sought after player, yeah isn't on the level of Medard and uncapped unlike Ranger, but with Gear (universally thought of as No 1 winger in the game on here) and Toeava, it forms a formidable back three. I can't compete with the Highlanders (best back three in game, by miles) and Toulouse, but bear in mind i started with Takicagibau, Goode, Strettle!
Lock needs some work, I took a hit on Bekker, to allow me to get another big name in Elsom in the back row. Nallet is the third best enforcer in the game after Bakkie and Thorn and in great form!
I reckon I now have more then half of my team who are top 3 in their position. Going to be largely impossible to get anymore, as the top teams have them and don't really need improving! However, i would back myself against every team at home, except Toulouse maybe and away from home, good chance as any.
Im now looking at building a squad, so that my bench is strong and that when injuries come, I have a better chance against the top 3. Reckon that the top top teams don't have the best benches at the moment.
Stevens, Dixon, W-Jones, Joubert, Wigglesworth, Kahui, Halfpenny
Dixon aside, thats a very good bench i would say!
Kubrishvili is a quality prop, highly rated and had a storming top14 season, destroying props across France! He was as high as 4/5 in some peoples top tens, but about 6th overall i reckon.
Maitland isn't a weakness either, probably my most sought after player, yeah isn't on the level of Medard and uncapped unlike Ranger, but with Gear (universally thought of as No 1 winger in the game on here) and Toeava, it forms a formidable back three. I can't compete with the Highlanders (best back three in game, by miles) and Toulouse, but bear in mind i started with Takicagibau, Goode, Strettle!
Lock needs some work, I took a hit on Bekker, to allow me to get another big name in Elsom in the back row. Nallet is the third best enforcer in the game after Bakkie and Thorn and in great form!
I reckon I now have more then half of my team who are top 3 in their position. Going to be largely impossible to get anymore, as the top teams have them and don't really need improving! However, i would back myself against every team at home, except Toulouse maybe and away from home, good chance as any.
Im now looking at building a squad, so that my bench is strong and that when injuries come, I have a better chance against the top 3. Reckon that the top top teams don't have the best benches at the moment.
Stevens, Dixon, W-Jones, Joubert, Wigglesworth, Kahui, Halfpenny
Dixon aside, thats a very good bench i would say!
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sorry no deal on lambie for slade
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Jenkins + Bonnaire + Williams
=
Woodcock + Brown + Guildford
Enq
=
Woodcock + Brown + Guildford
Enq
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Not interested in losing Lobbe atm
Jenkins + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts
=
Woodcock + Brown + Guildford + Evans
Jenkins + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts
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Woodcock + Brown + Guildford + Evans
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Same with Palmer not really interested in allowing him to leave;
Skrela + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts + Kirchener
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Lambie + Brown + Guildford + Davies + Poitrenaud
Skrela + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts + Kirchener
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Lambie + Brown + Guildford + Davies + Poitrenaud
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Woodcock is the only player you have that I want.
Woodcock+Tuilagi=halfpenny+boric
???
Enq only
Woodcock+Tuilagi=halfpenny+boric
???
Enq only
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Was it you who wanted an all All Black set of backs? As you can see, I have 7 of them and some available for deals. Im after front five forwards. Woodcock mainly.
Can you see any deals?
Can you see any deals?
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Woodcock is the only player you have that I'm really keen on. Don't like your deal, prefer all of my players by a long way
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Still don't see a gain. Williams a risk on here
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I've already said no, I don't want a fourth FH and I only get a slight return in Woodcock
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I'm pretty sure I have. And the difference between 2nd and 4th is much of a gain and still doesn't negate the fact I don't want to lose a starting centre for a fourth FH that I won't start.
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I like deacon, but any deal for him would include awj or thion
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Dagg & Rokocoko & Weepu & Brussow
4
Poitrenaud & Guildford & Kelleher & Ouedraego
No thanks.
4
Poitrenaud & Guildford & Kelleher & Ouedraego
No thanks.
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Sorry mate, but Boric is way ahead of Williams and Jack and Im not a fan of either. As i said, too much of a risk on here, both of them
Would like to deal, but I also want to improve my back up locks, hence the interest in Deacon.
Happy to deal with Kahui, but can't see other any players in your squad other then Woodcock that would improve me.
Would like to deal, but I also want to improve my back up locks, hence the interest in Deacon.
Happy to deal with Kahui, but can't see other any players in your squad other then Woodcock that would improve me.
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Lambie can't play 12.
Could look at something will Albacete maybe? You said you wanted a lock.
Could look at something will Albacete maybe? You said you wanted a lock.
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Turner + Thomson + Corbs
4
Visser + Brown + Woodcock
Maybe that?
4
Visser + Brown + Woodcock
Maybe that?
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I don't want to lose JDV for a FH!
Com'on Blogs sort it out.
Com'on Blogs sort it out.
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Given that Brussow > Ouedraego and Dagg > Poitrenaud it would be hard to see a deal..
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De Luca + Sclezo 4 Jacobsen + JD
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What deals? You're the one making the offers mate.
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He aint that bad
and Sclezo > Jacobsen
and Sclezo > Jacobsen
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Chisholm + Szarz
For
Williams + Mealamu
For
Williams + Mealamu
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What about:
Chisholm + Hook + Steyn + Smith + Haskell
For
Williams + Poitrenaud + Ouedraego + Brown
Chisholm + Hook + Steyn + Smith + Haskell
For
Williams + Poitrenaud + Ouedraego + Brown
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Turner + matthewson + 5m
4
Sackey + kelleher
?
4
Sackey + kelleher
?
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As I said earlier mate, boric can go, but only interested in woodcock really
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You asked about turner, albacete mcallister, I gave you a deal for turner, which would obviously need a gain for clermont as well. mathewson will go to the wc and having a great season, sackey is awful, so fair deal i thought
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But like I said Woodcock isn't for sale. I know your only interested in
him for some reason and nobody else but I can't do Woodcock.
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Because im looking for props and i don't see any other players you have as gains for me
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However, as I write this, i see you now have hook/steyn, either of which would interest saracens and clermont.
him for some reason and nobody else but I can't do Woodcock.
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Because im looking for props and i don't see any other players you have as gains for me
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However, as I write this, i see you now have hook/steyn, either of which would interest saracens and clermont.
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Not a bad offer mate, but don't like donald at all, really hoping bath don't sign him in real life, as expected.
Would consider the deal with Hook/Steyn involved.
how about for saracens
Hook 4 Kahui?
Gives you a specialist 13 (with wing cover) and me the cover at ten i want.
Would consider the deal with Hook/Steyn involved.
how about for saracens
Hook 4 Kahui?
Gives you a specialist 13 (with wing cover) and me the cover at ten i want.
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Williams + Jenkins + Roberts
=
Guilford + Woodcock + Davies
Enq
=
Guilford + Woodcock + Davies
Enq
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i reckon
10. Donald
12. Steyn
13. Hook
15. Lambie
is much much stronger. Donald at 12 is a no no, steyn played 12 all year and very successfully. hook good at 13, lambie fine at 15. only my opinion though. think that they are all too similar though, would be worth getting less playmakers in i reckon.
hook 4 kahui/halfpenny? maybe
or
hook + lund
4
turner + vermuelen? maybe
10. Donald
12. Steyn
13. Hook
15. Lambie
is much much stronger. Donald at 12 is a no no, steyn played 12 all year and very successfully. hook good at 13, lambie fine at 15. only my opinion though. think that they are all too similar though, would be worth getting less playmakers in i reckon.
hook 4 kahui/halfpenny? maybe
or
hook + lund
4
turner + vermuelen? maybe
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sorry mate, but donald is a laughing stock down under. might be a good club player, but just google him and you will find 'worst ever all black' topics and such like. similar to how balshaw/hodgson are treated up here i guess, the public can be very cruel.
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Jenkins + Rees + De Villiers + Lobbe + Bonnaire
=
Woodcock + Mealamu + Steyn + McCalman + Haskell
Enq
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Woodcock + Mealamu + Steyn + McCalman + Haskell
Enq
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Dont get another 10 mate, hook lambie donald all good options. i personally reckon those 3 plus steyn are all too similar though, so a more direct player or specialist would be great. the great news is that those players are all very good and will be great bargaining tools. for example, i want hook and steyn already!
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Haha Blogs so intellectual, at least I'm trying to think of something. Rather than producing the same garbage deals...
Even if I take Bonnaire off, in your own admission the deal is fair. Two gains two losses. As you wanted JDV and Lobbe.
Even if I take Bonnaire off, in your own admission the deal is fair. Two gains two losses. As you wanted JDV and Lobbe.
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Well you do need to buck up the chat mate. And it sounds similar to Blogs.
It is two each way you even said it.
It is two each way you even said it.
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I ssecond that Fluxy - bear your chat is very very similar to blogs thats all, don't take it to heart if we start calling you it
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I did take it to four, because you said Bonnaire and Haskell were the same.
Then we had two gains each like you requested. How hard was that?
Then we had two gains each like you requested. How hard was that?
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Not that bothered about cash mate, want to get a fly half
How about
Masaga + 8m = Hook?
How about
Masaga + 8m = Hook?
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Thought i made my feelings on Donald clear last time you tried to give him to me.
Butch James + 5m
4
Hook
Butch James + 5m
4
Hook
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I don't want cash for lesser players, thanks.
Hook is no way near Fourie at 13. Fourie the worlds best and so consistent in his form, where Smith has struggled a little at the Canes and AAC at Brumbies, but I like hook at ten, hence the move.
Thought players weren't allowed to be marked not for sale?
Hook is no way near Fourie at 13. Fourie the worlds best and so consistent in his form, where Smith has struggled a little at the Canes and AAC at Brumbies, but I like hook at ten, hence the move.
Thought players weren't allowed to be marked not for sale?
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Don't think you will get any of the top boys at 13 for Hook. Im trying not to use my players as an example, but think he is more of the level of Mapasua, Kahui, Fruean, Ansbro
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i would rather have a specialist in each position and hook isnt a 13! kahui>fruean
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