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Post by GloucesterBear Sat May 21, 2011 12:20 am

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Manager - Gloucester Bear
Club Captain - Byron Kelleher
Vice Captain - Kelly Brown
Squad Numbers - 28
Budget - 21 million

Hookers
John Smit
Benoit August

Props
Fabien Barcella
Neemia Tialata
Mike Ross(Loan)

Locks
Danie Rossouw
Louis Deacon
Anthony Boric

Flankers
Dan Lydiate
Joe Van Niekerk
Ben McCalman
Sam Warburton
Ashley Johnson

Scrum Half
Byron Kelleher
Chris Cusiter

Fly Half
Toby Flood
Stephen Donald

Centres
Jonathan Davies
Seilala Mapasua
David Marty
Anthony Fainga'a

Wingers
Leigh Halfpenny
Alesana Tuilagi
Rod Davies
Vincent Clerc

Full Backs
Keith Earls

Starting 15
1.Fabien Barcella
2.John Smit
3.Neemia Tialata
4.Anthony Boric
5.Danie Rossouw
6.Joe Van Niekerk
7.Sam Warburton
8.Ben McCalman
9.Byron Kelleher
10.Toby Flood
11.Vincent Clerc
12.Seilala Mapasua
13.David Marty
14.Leigh Halfpenny
15.Keith Earls


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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:56 am

globear - i would check with pull first mate about what blogs has done - you may still have those players.

cant see pul allowing to change it after its gone through and only part of the deal

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Post by CJB Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:00 am

If them deals were accepted something did catch my eye but its gone :/. Gaps are just too large between players you want

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Post by CJB Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:18 am

Beale is not leaving. You could offer your lineup for him I wouldn't take it.

Yer Albacete is better but minimally and the ratings are reversing imo.

Gap between Kaino + Mccalman is huge. I'm losing the second best 6 in the world for a player with 4 caps and probably only just about edging top 10. He wouldn't start for me. It'd be a suicidal deal to do from my perspective.

Hayman I can see why you are offering but I'd need a huge gain as I don't rate Nel. Only person that will is Blogs...

Jane needs Guildford and a big gain. I honestly think the only place you improve my lineup is Woodcock but that isnt enough. Oh and Kelleher slightly >

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Post by CJB Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:33 am

1 No idea who you go for, think it will be a New Zealander though. That is what you are doing isn't it!

Beattie > McCalman.

I'd have to think because its short term gain for me, long term loss so will think about it

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Post by CJB Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:52 am

Well it's been cancelled

Look at a 2nd choice backrow. The likes of Messam and Todd

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Post by pullthestrings Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:24 am

Could maybe do:

Hamilton + Weepu + Roko
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Kelleher + Poitrenaud + Guildford

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Post by Bathite Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:18 pm

Thanks for the team assessment mate, i agree in some areas.

Kubrishvili is a quality prop, highly rated and had a storming top14 season, destroying props across France! He was as high as 4/5 in some peoples top tens, but about 6th overall i reckon.

Maitland isn't a weakness either, probably my most sought after player, yeah isn't on the level of Medard and uncapped unlike Ranger, but with Gear (universally thought of as No 1 winger in the game on here) and Toeava, it forms a formidable back three. I can't compete with the Highlanders (best back three in game, by miles) and Toulouse, but bear in mind i started with Takicagibau, Goode, Strettle!

Lock needs some work, I took a hit on Bekker, to allow me to get another big name in Elsom in the back row. Nallet is the third best enforcer in the game after Bakkie and Thorn and in great form!

I reckon I now have more then half of my team who are top 3 in their position. Going to be largely impossible to get anymore, as the top teams have them and don't really need improving! However, i would back myself against every team at home, except Toulouse maybe and away from home, good chance as any.

Im now looking at building a squad, so that my bench is strong and that when injuries come, I have a better chance against the top 3. Reckon that the top top teams don't have the best benches at the moment.

Stevens, Dixon, W-Jones, Joubert, Wigglesworth, Kahui, Halfpenny

Dixon aside, thats a very good bench i would say!

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:35 pm

sorry no deal on lambie for slade

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Post by Fluxy Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:38 am

Jenkins + Bonnaire + Williams
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Woodcock + Brown + Guildford

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Post by Fluxy Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:07 am

Not interested in losing Lobbe atm

Jenkins + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts
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Woodcock + Brown + Guildford + Evans

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Post by Fluxy Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:09 am

Same with Palmer not really interested in allowing him to leave;

Skrela + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts + Kirchener
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Lambie + Brown + Guildford + Davies + Poitrenaud

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Post by Bathite Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:53 am

Woodcock is the only player you have that I want.

Woodcock+Tuilagi=halfpenny+boric

???

Enq only

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Post by Bathite Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:40 pm

Was it you who wanted an all All Black set of backs? As you can see, I have 7 of them and some available for deals. Im after front five forwards. Woodcock mainly.

Can you see any deals?

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Post by Bathite Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:20 pm

Woodcock is the only player you have that I'm really keen on. Don't like your deal, prefer all of my players by a long way

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Post by Bathite Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:30 pm

Still don't see a gain. Williams a risk on here

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Post by Fluxy Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:32 pm

I've already said no, I don't want a fourth FH and I only get a slight return in Woodcock

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Post by Fluxy Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:59 pm

I'm pretty sure I have. And the difference between 2nd and 4th is much of a gain and still doesn't negate the fact I don't want to lose a starting centre for a fourth FH that I won't start.

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Post by Bathite Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:24 pm

I like deacon, but any deal for him would include awj or thion

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Post by pullthestrings Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:43 pm

Dagg & Rokocoko & Weepu & Brussow
4
Poitrenaud & Guildford & Kelleher & Ouedraego

No thanks.

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Post by Bathite Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:52 am

Sorry mate, but Boric is way ahead of Williams and Jack and Im not a fan of either. As i said, too much of a risk on here, both of them

Would like to deal, but I also want to improve my back up locks, hence the interest in Deacon.

Happy to deal with Kahui, but can't see other any players in your squad other then Woodcock that would improve me.

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Post by Bathite Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:55 am

Lambie can't play 12.

Could look at something will Albacete maybe? You said you wanted a lock.

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Post by Bathite Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:53 am

Turner + Thomson + Corbs
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Visser + Brown + Woodcock

Maybe that?

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Post by Fluxy Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:48 am

I don't want to lose JDV for a FH!

Com'on Blogs sort it out.

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Post by pullthestrings Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:17 am

Given that Brussow > Ouedraego and Dagg > Poitrenaud it would be hard to see a deal.. OK

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Post by CJB Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:24 am

De Luca + Sclezo 4 Jacobsen + JD

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Post by Fluxy Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:31 am

What deals? You're the one making the offers mate.

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Post by CJB Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:42 am

He aint that bad

and Sclezo > Jacobsen

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:19 am

Chisholm + Szarz
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Williams + Mealamu

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:13 am

What about:

Chisholm + Hook + Steyn + Smith + Haskell
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Williams + Poitrenaud + Ouedraego + Brown

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:31 am

Turner + matthewson + 5m
4
Sackey + kelleher
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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:01 am

As I said earlier mate, boric can go, but only interested in woodcock really

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:33 am

You asked about turner, albacete mcallister, I gave you a deal for turner, which would obviously need a gain for clermont as well. mathewson will go to the wc and having a great season, sackey is awful, so fair deal i thought

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:38 am

But like I said Woodcock isn't for sale. I know your only interested in
him for some reason and nobody else but I can't do Woodcock.

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Because im looking for props and i don't see any other players you have as gains for me

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However, as I write this, i see you now have hook/steyn, either of which would interest saracens and clermont.

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:43 am

Not a bad offer mate, but don't like donald at all, really hoping bath don't sign him in real life, as expected.

Would consider the deal with Hook/Steyn involved.

how about for saracens

Hook 4 Kahui?

Gives you a specialist 13 (with wing cover) and me the cover at ten i want.

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Post by Fluxy Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:43 am

Williams + Jenkins + Roberts
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Guilford + Woodcock + Davies

Enq

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:02 am

i reckon

10. Donald
12. Steyn
13. Hook
15. Lambie

is much much stronger. Donald at 12 is a no no, steyn played 12 all year and very successfully. hook good at 13, lambie fine at 15. only my opinion though. think that they are all too similar though, would be worth getting less playmakers in i reckon.

hook 4 kahui/halfpenny? maybe

or

hook + lund
4
turner + vermuelen? maybe

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:11 am

sorry mate, but donald is a laughing stock down under. might be a good club player, but just google him and you will find 'worst ever all black' topics and such like. similar to how balshaw/hodgson are treated up here i guess, the public can be very cruel.

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Post by Fluxy Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:21 am

Jenkins + Rees + De Villiers + Lobbe + Bonnaire
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Woodcock + Mealamu + Steyn + McCalman + Haskell

Enq

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:29 am

Dont get another 10 mate, hook lambie donald all good options. i personally reckon those 3 plus steyn are all too similar though, so a more direct player or specialist would be great. the great news is that those players are all very good and will be great bargaining tools. for example, i want hook and steyn already!

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Post by Fluxy Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:59 am

Haha Blogs so intellectual, at least I'm trying to think of something. Rather than producing the same garbage deals...

Even if I take Bonnaire off, in your own admission the deal is fair. Two gains two losses. As you wanted JDV and Lobbe.

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Post by Fluxy Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:12 am

Well you do need to buck up the chat mate. And it sounds similar to Blogs.

It is two each way you even said it.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:16 am

I ssecond that Fluxy - bear your chat is very very similar to blogs thats all, don't take it to heart if we start calling you it Smile

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Post by Fluxy Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:20 am

I did take it to four, because you said Bonnaire and Haskell were the same.

Then we had two gains each like you requested. How hard was that?

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:26 pm

Not that bothered about cash mate, want to get a fly half

How about

Masaga + 8m = Hook?

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:44 pm

Thought i made my feelings on Donald clear last time you tried to give him to me.

Butch James + 5m
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Hook

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:17 pm

I don't want cash for lesser players, thanks.

Hook is no way near Fourie at 13. Fourie the worlds best and so consistent in his form, where Smith has struggled a little at the Canes and AAC at Brumbies, but I like hook at ten, hence the move.

Thought players weren't allowed to be marked not for sale?

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:32 pm

Don't think you will get any of the top boys at 13 for Hook. Im trying not to use my players as an example, but think he is more of the level of Mapasua, Kahui, Fruean, Ansbro

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Post by Bathite Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:49 pm

i would rather have a specialist in each position and hook isnt a 13! kahui>fruean

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:49 pm

nah thanks mate.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:55 pm

traille maybe?

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