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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 20 May 2011, 3:20 pm

First topic message reminder :

Manager - Gloucester Bear
Club Captain - Byron Kelleher
Vice Captain - Kelly Brown
Squad Numbers - 28
Budget - 21 million

Hookers
John Smit
Benoit August

Props
Fabien Barcella
Neemia Tialata
Mike Ross(Loan)

Locks
Danie Rossouw
Louis Deacon
Anthony Boric

Flankers
Dan Lydiate
Joe Van Niekerk
Ben McCalman
Sam Warburton
Ashley Johnson

Scrum Half
Byron Kelleher
Chris Cusiter

Fly Half
Toby Flood
Stephen Donald

Centres
Jonathan Davies
Seilala Mapasua
David Marty
Anthony Fainga'a

Wingers
Leigh Halfpenny
Alesana Tuilagi
Rod Davies
Vincent Clerc

Full Backs
Keith Earls

Starting 15
1.Fabien Barcella
2.John Smit
3.Neemia Tialata
4.Anthony Boric
5.Danie Rossouw
6.Joe Van Niekerk
7.Sam Warburton
8.Ben McCalman
9.Byron Kelleher
10.Toby Flood
11.Vincent Clerc
12.Seilala Mapasua
13.David Marty
14.Leigh Halfpenny
15.Keith Earls


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Post by Bathite Wed 25 May 2011, 3:53 pm

Lawes is a big gain on Deacon, even though injured. I don't want to let him go but I only have 19 players at the moment, whilst you have 23 fit.

Contepomi + 3m
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Evans + Nieto/Jacobsen

I need front row cover

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Post by Bathite Wed 25 May 2011, 4:02 pm

Yes it is, well done, i need front row cover. 2 4 1 do happen, as do 3 4 2 etc.

Nieto is rubbish, but better then nothing for me as cole is injured and only have two fit props and 1 hooker.

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Post by CJB Fri 27 May 2011, 1:41 pm

August + Guildford 4 Williams + Ford + £8m

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Post by CJB Fri 27 May 2011, 1:49 pm

Ford gives you better back up hooker. I'd make it £15m means you get Williams, who is better than all but one in foreings imo and money to fill out squad

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Post by CJB Fri 27 May 2011, 2:03 pm

If you don't have 22 players you will get marked down

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Post by Bathite Fri 27 May 2011, 2:33 pm

I'd really appreciate it if I you didn't outbid Kahui, but i genuinely think you want a 12.

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Post by Bathite Fri 27 May 2011, 2:42 pm

Or actually, maybe a new 10?

ROG would be a great signing

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Post by Bathite Fri 27 May 2011, 3:06 pm

I would improve 10 12 and Wing before 13.

Evans is a great player, i rate him, i know others do to.

De Jongh was about 8th in the top tens and we had a chat about the SA squad and about half the people had him at 12, ahead of De Villiers.

Personally, De Jongh is a no brainer for 12

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Post by Bathite Fri 27 May 2011, 3:26 pm

How about Contepomi for 18m? Nice kicking option, playmaker alongside the pace of Evans and also covers FH.

Can't let the other two go whilst Manu is injured

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Post by Bathite Fri 27 May 2011, 3:30 pm

Glad you saw sense with De Jongh! See that he is starting ahead of De Villiers at the weekend at 12.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 27 May 2011, 10:43 pm

I bought him for £24m!

And would need big gains elsewhere as I wouldn't be so eager to taken on your replacements

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Post by CJB Sat 28 May 2011, 1:44 pm

Lose out, by quite a margin, twice for a gain that isnt exactly huge

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Post by CJB Sat 28 May 2011, 5:07 pm

Sorry no thanks. Whitelock is top ten lock, Williams isnt top 25. You'd need to add Guildford 4 Wulf cos I'd need to replace Williams.

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Post by CJB Sat 28 May 2011, 5:28 pm

Don't do it! I'm telling you what I need! I'll happily keep my players, they are doing alright atm why change something thats not broken

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Post by Fluxy Mon 30 May 2011, 4:19 pm

Ansbro + Bonnaire
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Evans + Brown

Enq

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue 31 May 2011, 3:50 pm

Saints scouts have shown an interest in:

Keven Mealamu
Tony Woodcock
Chris Jack
Magnus Lund
Byron Kelleher
Alesana Tuilagi
Zac Guildford
Clement Poitrenaud

and would like to know your position on the players mentioned.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue 31 May 2011, 3:54 pm

hello globear nice to meet you too - above post are players i would be intersted in - please drop by and do some dealing if you wish!

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Tue 31 May 2011, 4:04 pm

hey globear - yeah don't worry wasn't looking to deal on all of them, just saying these are some players I am interested in!

as for
Mujati & Elsom & Burgess & Hartley
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WP Nel & Brown & Kelleher & Mealamu

I will pass - its a decent deal though good effort but a bit too many player!

your right Elsom may be up for grabs feel free to come back with offers and you don't have to use so many players Smile

cheers

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Post by Fluxy Tue 31 May 2011, 8:35 pm

No thanks Blogs, De Villiers fo Donald is a no no

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Post by RowleyFox Tue 31 May 2011, 10:20 pm

Thomson & McAlister & Kearney
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Brown & Donald & Poitrenaud

McAlister is not going anywhere sorry.

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Post by RowleyFox Tue 31 May 2011, 10:54 pm

Lambie + McCalman + Guildford

for

BR.James + Vermuelen + Malzieu

Clermont

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 01 Jun 2011, 1:27 am

hey blogs.

yeah WP Nel is no where near Franks and although your offering another player in return he's too big a loss.

prob not much in burgess & Kelleher but burgess is a current international.

brown is a decent flanker but I think dowson is better at the moment.

woodcock, Kelleher, mealamu
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Franks, Burgess, Hore

inquiry only neither of us gain or loose much on this?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 01 Jun 2011, 8:56 am

cheers but no thanks.
loosing a top prop for two bench props.
thanks anyway.

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 9:09 am

Burger & Maitland & Thion
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Ouedraego & Visser & Williams

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Even if Burger was for sale, thats not a good offer mate, don't rate Visser, definately a big loss on Maitland and Williams an equal to Thion at best. Burger is World Class, hence why he and my other stars are not for sale!

I have no idea what you have up your sleeve to be honest mate! But its great to see so much activity. Rowley can be a real pain, but he is keen, can't fault that and it seems BANAFAN is also lively.

Where you looking to improve now?

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 2:59 pm

Ah yeah, i remember you mentionining 'the plan' now!!

Maitland & Cowan
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Davies or Evans & Kelleher

See what your trying there mate. Its not that I don't want to lose my NZ connection, as Fourie will obviously start when fit.

Although many on here have Kelleher higher and I would probably agree, he hasn't been playing for Toulouse and won't play until next season, whereas Jimmy Cowan will have S15 game time, then tri nations, then WC to remind everyone how quality he is!

I don't want Davies at all mate, would have him below Barritt atm. Evans is a very good player, but not don't need 13/wing cover as have Kahui doing that job, who is equal, if not better.

Donald and Lambie interest me, as I need a back up for Evans

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 3:15 pm

Sorry mate, I just don't see it that way, as I said, Cowan has it all ahead of him, Kelleher has a summer off and no club as yet. If he was that good, surely someone would have snapped him up!

Not going to your deal mate, sorry.

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 4:15 pm

Bathite wrote:
Not going to your deal mate, sorry.

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 4:19 pm

Ha! That was a bit rude of me! But seriously, im not interested, yes BK was higher in the rankings, but that was 2months back when he was playing, a lot has changed since then. BK is declining and JC is gaining.

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 4:28 pm

Toeava & Waldrom & Lambie
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Poitrenaud & Brown & Kahui

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Thats a better offer in terms of quality and gains, but: can't lose Kahui until Fourie returns from injury after game 10, don't want Poit over Toeava and Brown is 6.

I would be happy to deal and can potentially help you out, but right now, my team is looking pretty set to be honest. Long term i want to improve back up 10 and back up prop, but there is no immediate need to do that until i see my next set of injuries.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 01 Jun 2011, 5:11 pm

that's a tempting offer mate bit am looking for players and cash really need to get more money in for new players.
cheers
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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 5:33 pm

As I say, I would like to help out, the best deals are the ones that sort out both sides in my opinion. But in this case, I can't really see a deal that interests me, sorry.

I stand by what I said, you have done very very well to effectively remove the weak areas, the previous manager had the likes of Schofield, Sackey etc still playing.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 01 Jun 2011, 5:40 pm

money is important as I need more cover players.
your offer is good and I may come back to you.
cheers

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Post by CJB Wed 01 Jun 2011, 5:54 pm

Offer 1 both my players are better
Offer 2 I'm left with no 6

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 6:35 pm

No mate, I havn't but it's difficult to keep up to be honest!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 01 Jun 2011, 6:55 pm

Make a half decent offer and I'd respond to it mate

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 6:57 pm

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think Pooly will do your deal mate and neither would I if in his shoes! Its very difficult to deal with Toulouse because the team is so flipping unbelievable.

As I have already said, can't see a deal, but my targets would be Woodcock
McCalman
Donald
Lambie

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 01 Jun 2011, 7:08 pm

Sorry mate, don't see anything

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 7:15 pm

Dude, getting a bit silly now. Have said so many times that i wont do Kelleher/Cowan + Toeava/Poit

Maitland could potentially leave in the right deal

Maitland + Parr 4 Woodcock + Tuilagi?

Parr a big drop on woodock, but you have jacobsen, int prop rated around 9-12. Have included Parr so your not short on numbers at prop

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 01 Jun 2011, 7:20 pm

See the above two comments Wink

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 7:30 pm

no thoughts on my woodcock deal then?

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Post by CJB Wed 01 Jun 2011, 8:11 pm

Offer 1 difference between cus + kel is minimal
Offer 2 same as above
Offer 3 My lineup is weakened 3 times for sub gain :/

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Post by Bathite Wed 01 Jun 2011, 8:58 pm

Not really for sale unless deal is good. Your deal isn't good

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Post by CJB Wed 01 Jun 2011, 9:43 pm

Think you only have 1 gain to my lineup and I don't think that's enough. Kaino + Whitelock to whoever is a huge gap that you can't make up

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Wed 01 Jun 2011, 10:50 pm

dude Lambie may be a prospect but theres a difference between uncapped saffa and a capped all black so and as for Hore/Mealamu well theres not much in it.

would consider other deals or cash etc

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Post by RowleyFox Wed 01 Jun 2011, 11:15 pm

Albacete & Kearney & McAlister
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Jack & Poitrenaud & Lambie & Tuilagi

Like the players your are giving me, but losing Albacete is the big one but Jack I kind of like coming back to form.

Deal confirm when your on OK

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 02 Jun 2011, 12:21 am

would you be interested in Canale?

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Post by pullthestrings Thu 02 Jun 2011, 12:38 am

Read my post on the homepage.

Russouw & Roko
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Albacete & Guildford

Enq.

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Post by pullthestrings Thu 02 Jun 2011, 12:53 am

Russouw & Roko
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Albacete & Guildford

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Could make it Sivi?

Russouw & Sivi
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Albacete & Guildford

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Post by CJB Thu 02 Jun 2011, 10:26 am

Deal number 1, the gap between Alba + whitelock is tiny. By the end of the season it will be reversed IMO

Deal number 2, everyone knows how much I rate Jane. I'm not a fan of money

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Post by RowleyFox Thu 02 Jun 2011, 7:12 pm

That deal is scrapped now and I have left the game cause of the fiasco.

Would still do.

McAlister + Kearney

for

Lambie + Poitrenaud + Tuilagi

Not got the Albacete for Jack bit but I was in a bad mood last night and frankly didn't really care what I did sorry about that, if you want to do that I would let you up to you though really.

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