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Post by wheelchair1991 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 13:18

http://www.britishboxers.co.uk/2014/03/frank-warren-reveals-big-night-of-boxing-on-april-12th.html

Frank Warren struggles on will any of you be watching after the last snoozefest

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 13:26

Frank should retire.....Becoming a joke...

Warren v Hearn is like Bangor vs Man Utd these days..

Give it up Frank.

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:04

I'll say it again but the more boxing the better for me. Decent exposure for upcoming fighters. I'd rather boxing be on tv than not, no matter what channel it's on. It's not costing anyone any more money so don't really see the issue.

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Post by hampo17 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:13

Agree 100% Spencer, if you don't like the card then don't watch it. Worst thing that happened was Sky scraping Friday Fight Nights, these shows where perfect for that.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:18

If one is undemanding and happy to be fed turd then fine..good luck.

Then again some on here won't have to pay...which is fine too..

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:23

C5 would be exposure.

A channel with only 100,000 subs at best, most of which are there for the big cards and international grade stuff, is pretty meaningless.

Though nothing is more laughable that this event being charged for more expensive than Hearn's Wembley gig. More proof Strongy is full of Poopie.

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:24

Thing is though truss no one thought the Tommy Coyle fight was going to be a decent fight and it ended up as more than likely fight of the year. I dont think the card is fantastic but I've seen far worse. Will probably watch it round with some mates having a few beers. If there are some great fights I'll be well happy. If not then I will still have had a laugh with mates and seen some new boxers at the beginning of their careers. Not sure how I lose out.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:24

Are these shows good for boxing though surely these shows will turn people off boxing

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:25

I said it's fine Spence...If you like it good for you Mate..

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:28

When did we have a time when we had weekly stacked cards? As nearly every week a card is getting slated. Ive never seen as much boxing as in the last couple of years. I might be one of the few but I'm happy.

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:31

Sorry gents the whinging wasnt really aimed at you guys. Just seems to be a lot pf people complaining about all things boxing at mo, including cards. I'm loving boxing the last few years. Yes there are issues but I've seen plenty of great fights.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:32

I can go to the hall and watch people playing snooker every night...Or I could watch O'Sullivan instead..

Some of us like quality...

Some of us are more used to seeing quality also..

It's about standards...

Coming from where I do..Mine are higher..

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:36

Haha very good truss. I like to see all levels of boxing. I enjoy seeing the start of a boxers career as well and champion them from the start. Don't want dave accusing me of jumping on band wagons after all. :-)

Every night of boxing for me is an education. Some guys on here have encyclopedic knowledge. Nice to add to my input.

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Post by Kurt Ward Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:47

Not the best, is it? I might take my nap during it as I prepare to stay up through the night for the Pacman/Bradley rematch.

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Post by hampo17 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:48

So what you're saying Truss is that unless it's elite level you're not interested? You must miss some top fights, some of the fights people have slated in the last twelve months have been superb to watch.

I prefer to watch boxing, don't mind the level and love going to small hall shows.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:51

If you accept crap..You'll keep getting it...

I love soccer but I don't want to watch Didsbury.

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Post by 88Chris05 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:55

I don't see what people expect or want from Warren. He can't just curl up, close his eyes and hope that, when he reopens them, Hearn will have magically disappeared. He has to trudge on and his already dwindling stable will dwindle even more if he doesn't give his boys run outs.

At the end of the day, only a small percentage of all fighters and / or promoters make it really, really big. You can't judge everyone against the biggest and best, which Warren isn't a part of anymore, or at least at present.

Glamorous Vegas cards, or sell-outs at Wembley, are all well and good but without these apparently rubbish cards which are somehow bad for the sport, well we wouldn't have a sport left.

If you don't want to watch it, then don't. But how can it be bad for the sport? Are you saying you'd prefer the alternative, which would basically be scrapping any show which isn't deemed big-time and telling all lesser-known fighters to pack it in?

I was at Dave Coldwell's show in Sheffield a few weeks back. No glitz and glamour and a crowd of only about 1,500 - but one of the fights on that bill (Lee Noble vs Dave Fidler) easily topped anything on the Mayweather-Alvarez, Garcia-Matthysse double header in Vegas last September.
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Post by spencerclarke Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 14:57

I go to Whitby Town games as well as my nephews games and they are often far more entertaining than seeing some of the so called big teams play.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:01

Good for you Spence...Nice name Whitby...

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Post by spencerclarke Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:07

I meant to go to the one in Canada when I was at Toronto but I didn't get the time.

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Post by superflyweight Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:11

hampo171 wrote:Agree 100% Spencer, if you don't like the card then don't watch it. Worst thing that happened was Sky scraping Friday Fight Nights, these shows where perfect for that.

Agreed. Used to see some cracking fights on Friday nights (saw plenty of dross as well - Paul Smith v Tony Quigley) and it was perfect Friday night viewing with a few botlles of beer and a takeaway.

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:15

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Frank should retire.....Becoming a joke...

Warren v Hearn is like Bangor vs Man Utd these days..

Give it up Frank.
So, a pretty even match up then?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:16

You're from Scotland....You'll enjoy anything....

Including independence..

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:24

Friday Fight Nights with World LH Champion TONY 'OAKEY COKEY' OAKEY

"Oim the best LH in the wurrrld and if Roy Jones wants some ee can 'ave it"

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:37

Enzo, Smith and Rose could all be World champs soon..

Be afraid...be very afraid..

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Post by tommyhearnsprodigalson Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:44

good god almighty just imagine..............

they'll have the records for shortest reigns

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Post by adamk Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 15:51

i like the small hall shows... every top fighter started there and its good to see we still have the talent coming through.

we cant expect world class cards everyweek.

was at a southport show a few weeks a go and there wasnt a massive crowd but the atmosphere was great.... better than a few arena shows i've been to.

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Post by Strongback Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 16:50

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Though nothing is more laughable that this event being charged for more expensive than Hearn's Wembley gig.  More proof Strongy is full of Poopie.


Hearn will be charging extra on the night for oxygen masks for the £30 seats.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 16:53

Truss doesn't watch the cards unless they are elite standard.... Yet he has an opinion on EVERYTHING !!

All makes sense now...
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Post by eddyfightfan Fri 21 Mar 2014 - 16:58

i dont mind these kind of shows, and eubank jr, hughie fury and eddie chambers are quite big names in comparison to some of the other similar cards (coldwells for example) about at the moment. conquest can normally be counted on to be exciting and skeete looks promising too.

my qualm with warren is that he never develops his talent once he gets them a certain level, and it becomes very difficult to stay interested in a warren fighter when he is knocking over bums every time.

and buglioni is absolutely garbage, some of his opponents my nan could go the distance with

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sat 22 Mar 2014 - 13:30

Not sure what people have against these cards. Were you completely unaware of the existence of none PPV cards before boxnation? Low level cards exist and are necessary, with boxnation showing them you have the choice to watch/not watch. Do you think promoters should simply not develop their talents?

People who only watch the big ppv cards in boxing are like people who only watch the world cup final in football.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 22 Mar 2014 - 14:10

Used to watch World title boxing every week back home....Get used to having standards....

I understand why you guys don't "Get it"...

But I don't have a problem with it.....You're British..

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Post by hampo17 Sat 22 Mar 2014 - 15:03

Truss drop the holier than thou crap, it got older a long time ago and is very boring now.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 22 Mar 2014 - 15:12

I'm getting older too...Hard to lose an old friend..Hampo!!

I do have an opinion on most things...I applaud freedom of speech..

But I rarely comment If ever on small show fighters.

Joshua and the type fight on big shows..

Not interested in chumps fighting...If I was I'd hang around Manchester City center at chucking out time..

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Post by hampo17 Sat 22 Mar 2014 - 15:20

How do you know they're chumps? You've never seen them but talk like you've watch their whole careers.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Sat 22 Mar 2014 - 15:22

Exactly Hampo. Reminds me of how Az used to argue about the lower weights yet never watching them. All opinions based on news reports
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 22 Mar 2014 - 15:39

I was generalising Hampo...

I'll ignore the squirt

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