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Part Moyes, part the squad SAF left him. Naive in the extreme to think yesterday would've ended up any different with SAF at the helm

Eh, even when they're not scoring or assisting they're still making a positive impact. Suarez and RVP had goal droughts the last 2 seasons but still played well. Rooney just goes off the boil completely.

No he doesn't . he just goes deep and helps out the inept midfield.

Yeah, this Rooney myth that he just disappears. He is a very good team player and his passing is always good.

Think hes got 17 assists and 17 goals this year. Thats pretty good in a rough year for his team

He gets paid 300k a week and can't make the ball reach the goal line when presented with a golden opportunity.

Does anyone think that any other top level striker would have managed not to score or assist with the 2 situations he found himself in in Munich?

Yes ent . most chances are missed even by the best ever. If the team only gets him 2 chances don't blame him

It's the 1/4 finals of the CL away to the reigning champions - should be thanking his lucky stars he got two chances.

Those type of chances need to be taken in this type of game, what happens instead is he dawdles on the ball and does nothing then hits a shot that didn't reach the goal line.

Ridiculous, just not an elite player and shouldn't be paid like one - not by us anyway.

You do realise he want match fit and probally shouldn't have played anyway...

Excuses, what has that got to do with not reaching the goal line with a free shot and making a mess of another good goalscoring opportunity?

When you are not physically prepared you are also not mentally.

Anyway face facts . Rooney hasn't cost your team anything. He has been your best player all year overall and you need to stop blaming him for coming up short this time.

Get over it. And it isn't his fault he is paid 300k. Its your clubs fault.

Get over what?

He isn't an elite footballer and never will be, he comes up short in the biggest games.

Every trophy we have won he has been a support act for better players. He has been our best player in 3 seasons, in 04 (finished 3rd), in 09/10 (2nd, lowest CL outcome in a 5 year period) and this season (worst in PL history).

We pay him far too much and he is held in a falsely high regard in the world game.

I really couldn't care less if we sell him to Chelsea or not.

OK so you accept you are a rubbish team.

How about you stop whinging for one day fella.

Ent wrote:
We pay him far too much and he is held in a falsely high regard in the world game.

But is he though? I'd be interested to hear the thoughts of fans from across the world on Rooney.

Ibrahimovic is held in high regard on the continent but not so much here (I rate him myself I must add) so Rooney may be in that boat abroad.

A very, very good footballer but slightly off top tier for my money.

Rooney is highly rated. But not top tier. We all know that and so does the rest of the world.

mystiroakey wrote:Rooney is highly rated. But not top tier. We all know that and so does the rest of the world.

But can he win the Masters Mysti?   

If he was a golfer and all the other football players were golfers. And we used everyone's quality in football as a gauge of how good there were at golf. Rooney would have all ready had 3 masters wins.

Good lord that Chelsea side

That's beyond conservative

0-0

or 1-0 either way bore fest game

Exhibit A of why I would never want Mourinho at Utd. He'd be about as unwelcome as Guardiola.

mystiroakey wrote:If he was a golfer and all the other football players were golfers. And we used everyone's quality in football as a gauge of how good there were at golf. Rooney would have all ready had 3 masters wins.

So he would be the third most successful player of the last 15 years   

Decent start to the game but no big moments just yet, seems like Cech's ok.

If Luiz could be bothered to defend properly that whole situation is avoided

how ironic-

Chelsea lose chec early

Might be Cechs season

What attacking threat is there in that Chelsea team, Willian will be expected to track back which leaves Torres up front on his own.

monty junior wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:If he was a golfer and all the other football players were golfers. And we used everyone's quality in football as a gauge of how good there were at golf. Rooney would have all ready had 3 masters wins.

So he would be the third most successful player of the last 15 years   

Decent start to the game but no big moments just yet, seems like Cech's ok.

it was a joke- however he would be joint 4th

els, woods and Pjam beat him and he would be joint with Poddy.

I like to support the British sides in this competition, but I'm struggling to support this from chelsea

athletico play a similar style anyway- so support the brit team olly!

Els has never won the masters Mysti nor has Padraig, he'd actually be joint 2nd with Mickelson.

talking majors lad- the masters is immaterial- its a major.

if you were just talking masters yes you were still wrong   

 

Atletico are actually interesting tho

I do hope Atletico make the final. Like to see ambition rewarded

This has basically been a training attack vs defense session

Imagine spending all that money on attacking players and coming up with this

watching terry and cahil playing at the level they do in the big matches makes me angry.

Hidgson has to bring terry

mystiroakey wrote:talking majors lad- the masters is immaterial- its a major.

if you were just talking masters yes you were still wrong   

 

Being pedantic Mysti because you specifically said the Masters not majors.

mystiroakey wrote:watching terry and cahil playing at the level they do in the big matches makes me angry.

Hidgson has to bring terry

Over rated the pair of them, the whole team is set up not to concede, they get help from every other player of their team, as soon as that protection isn't there then their lack of pace is severely shown up.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:watching terry and cahil playing at the level they do in the big matches makes me angry.

Hidgson has to bring terry

Over rated the pair of them, the whole team is set up not to concede, they get help from every other player of their team, as soon as that protection isn't there then their lack of pace is severely shown up.

no they really are not.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:watching terry and cahil playing at the level they do in the big matches makes me angry.

Hidgson has to bring terry

Over rated the pair of them, the whole team is set up not to concede, they get help from every other player of their team, as soon as that protection isn't there then their lack of pace is severely shown up.

Much easier to be a CB when you've got 3 DM's in front of you and you ain't going beyond your own 18 yard box

still the best pairing england have!!!

thats the point

GSC wrote:This has basically been a training attack vs defense session

They are still are not committing huge numbers though- they do not look like scoring at all. they have the midfield but all still sit back..

Frak SAKE LUIZ YOU boobie!!!!!

Actually I agree with HH. Cahills good, Terrys still decent but they'd be exposed without cover

Chelsea really do kill the point of watching a match as a neutral fan don't they?

Essentially Chelsea are playing a 6-3------------------1

Ugh, what a rubbish half. " Pinnacle of European Football".

every defensive unit is exposed without DM's- the point has been lost- Hairier- who do you suggest instead- Jones???

Kinda playing with the word fascinating there Adrian

More like boring the fookin nuts off everyone

Not actually true that Mysti, biased I may be but Ferdinand and Vidic were do damn good they didn't said midfield cover, they did it themselves like a defender should do, not relying on others to do it for you.

as i said 0-0 bore fest- thats the plan. and after 45 its worked. none of us expected any different.

the only chance we had for a 'decent' game was an early athletico goal. but they havent threatened

HH- I was talking about the best english defensive pairing for england in the world cup.

Remember when Jose accused Allardyce of playing 19th century football

Forever a hypocrite