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by All hail Lubo Mon 14 Apr 2014, 1:16 pm

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by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 26 Apr 2014, 9:39 am

Danny Ings

by All hail Lubo Sat 26 Apr 2014, 9:40 am

Ings is overrated, scored less goals in a better team

by Marky Sat 26 Apr 2014, 9:56 am

McCormack hasn't proved himself against top defenders, of which there are plenty in this league. Harsh but fair criticism IMO.

by All hail Lubo Sat 26 Apr 2014, 10:31 am

I think you undervalue the ability of championship teams

by Marky Sat 26 Apr 2014, 10:37 am

I know Championship teams are decent, but they're outside the Premier League for a reason...

by All hail Lubo Sat 26 Apr 2014, 10:40 am

That's hogswash mate Erm

McCormack is one of the best players outside the PL and has scored 29 goals this year, even if it is an 'inferior' league,mid assume we look at the form of players at the time

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 26 Apr 2014, 10:43 am

I'd wait to see what he can do against the likes of Kompany and Koscielny before crowning him a star after facing Christophe Berra and Lucas Neill...

by Gregers Sat 26 Apr 2014, 10:54 am

McCormack is hardly going to be rated highly against high quality defenders simple really, plus Ings is better... like a lot better

by All hail Lubo Sat 26 Apr 2014, 11:18 am

Anyone who rates Ings over McCormack is being foolish

McCormack has partnered Matt Smith and Noël Hunt for most of this season, whereas Ings has had Vokes

It's the sheer fact that McCormack not only scores goals he creates them as well.

The defenders in this league are hardly on the same level as Kompany or Koscielny.

This logic seems to imply Libor Kozak would be a better option simply because he plays in the better league

by GSC Sat 26 Apr 2014, 12:29 pm

I wouldn't say there's a significant difference. Ings has had the better service (Leeds were awful vs us and McCormack still couldve had a couple). Ings needs to back up this season really

by All hail Lubo Sat 26 Apr 2014, 12:37 pm

Anyways both will be in the PL next season so we will see

by **Hero** Sat 26 Apr 2014, 12:51 pm

All hail Lubo wrote:He's the best British striker outside the PL tho. Playing in a below average team, he's hardly a weak link imo

And that's my point I raised in regards to Jakub Sylvestr or Borja Viguera, both of whom are current top scorers in the Spanish and German second leagues but who gives a rats about either of them.

I've got Batshuayi and Destro as striker options, both whom are miles better than McCormack yet I get feedback that my strikers are weak!

by Marky Sat 26 Apr 2014, 12:59 pm

Even this week, McCormack was up against Dede and Kouyate. Kouyate at Anderlecht and linked with Arsenal this summer, Dede rumoured to be moving to a major team in Europe after the World Cup. Not top class but better than a lot of the Championship's centre backs.

I can't help but think you're being a biased Leeds fan over this.

by Marky Sat 26 Apr 2014, 1:00 pm

For the record I don't rate Ings or Rhodes who are also in this league for the same reasons. I rate them in real life, but I can't vote for them to score goals against a better standard of defenders in this league.

by All hail Lubo Sat 26 Apr 2014, 1:19 pm

Believe me I criticise McCormack at ER because I know he isn't a perfect player and can frustrate at times, but I do think that you can't deny his goals and he would still do that against the bigger teams

by Fernando Sat 26 Apr 2014, 1:22 pm

Tactics are up.

Waiting on CF again. So Lyon/QPR isn't

Need a Torino manager.

by GSC Sat 26 Apr 2014, 1:23 pm

At the same time Lubo, he scored 5 goals last season

by All hail Lubo Sat 26 Apr 2014, 1:28 pm

After being injured for most of the season and playing on the wing for the rest

by GSC Sat 26 Apr 2014, 1:35 pm

Doesn't really play in his favor though. To make the grade as a lower league striker on these you need to be at least 1 in 2 I think

by Marky Sat 26 Apr 2014, 11:54 pm

All hail Lubo wrote:Believe me I criticise McCormack at ER because I know he isn't a perfect player and can frustrate at times, but I do think that you can't deny his goals and he would still do that against the bigger teams

Based on what?

by All hail Lubo Sun 27 Apr 2014, 9:18 am

When PL teams have played Leeds he still played well

by **Hero** Sun 27 Apr 2014, 10:39 am

Just checked his record against Premier League teams in the cup (and rememember Premier League clubs often put out weakened sides v lower league opposition in cups)

v Man Utd lost 0-3 was subbed off after 65 mins
v Arsenal lost 0-1 was subbed on after 74 mins
v Chelsea lost 1-5 was subbed on after 72 mins
v Spurs won 2-1 he scored one goal
v Man City lost 0-4 he was subbed off after 45 mins
v Newcastle lost 0-2

So 1 goal in six games v Premier League opposition, bet they're quaking in their boots.

by **Hero** Sun 27 Apr 2014, 10:44 am

And you said the season prior he was injured for most of it.
He was out from mid September to mid November.
He played 32 games in the league, scored 5 goals.
The record books also show he only played 1 game on the left wing, every other as a striker.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Apr 2014, 11:03 am

If he was that good we would've signed him Laugh

by All hail Lubo Sun 27 Apr 2014, 12:20 pm

K so two of those were played as a sub so....

And that doesn't take away from the fact in those games he was playing with Smith/Hunt/Becchio/Paynter, obviously with better team mates he'd play better

by **Hero** Sun 27 Apr 2014, 12:29 pm

But you did state he played well against Premier League opposition and there's nothing to show he did.
You also said he was an injured left winger for the season before and he wasn't, he scored 5 goals in 32 games as a striker which is shocking, Torres gets a better return than that.

And any player under the sun plays better if they're surrounded by better players, that's how people improve.

by Marky Sun 27 Apr 2014, 4:21 pm

Olly wrote:If he was that good we would've signed him

This is true, Leeds do seem to be Norwich's feeder club...

On a separate note, a mate of mine had 1-0 Chelsea (unsure of the odds) and was slating Torres for being useful in front of goal for once Laugh

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 27 Apr 2014, 4:50 pm

The bitterness of Liverpool fans towards Mourinho is glorious

Choked big time, can't accept they get mugged off by a managerial masterclass.

by GSC Sun 27 Apr 2014, 5:02 pm

Crimeys on the Kleenex big time

by Marky Mon 28 Apr 2014, 12:48 pm

Just the three games this week?

by Fernando Mon 28 Apr 2014, 12:49 pm

2 - CF still hasn't got tactics in.

by All hail Lubo Mon 28 Apr 2014, 8:39 pm

When do results need to be in for?

by Fernando Mon 28 Apr 2014, 9:06 pm

Read the OP

by Holymiky Tue 29 Apr 2014, 2:37 am

So tonight then? Tuesday night. I completely forgot to do them tonight so thats quite lucky for me. I was just about to come on here and apologise and say that i would do them when i wake up.

by All hail Lubo Tue 29 Apr 2014, 7:39 am

Phew I thought they were for yesterday

by All hail Lubo Tue 29 Apr 2014, 6:27 pm

Anyone heard of Caner Erkin? Turkish LB at Fenerbache

by Fernando Tue 29 Apr 2014, 8:20 pm

Injuries & Lawyers will be done tomorrow unless someone wants to do either.

by GSC Wed 30 Apr 2014, 9:38 am

@seantaylorpress: Daniel Carvajal: "Ribery slapping me was normal. When you're frustrated such things happen. Especially since my pocket doesn't have windows"

by **Hero** Wed 30 Apr 2014, 9:49 am

6pm yesterday CF sells Coentrao to lawyers
9pm yesterday Coentrao puts Arjen Robben in his pocket as Real advance to the Final.

Laugh

by Fernando Wed 30 Apr 2014, 10:11 pm

Results for Week 2

Nando The Ruler of Marky at Fifa wrote:Spartak 2 - Parma 0
Spartak 3 - Parma 2
Spartak 0 - Parma 0
Spartak 3 - Parma 2

Divided By 4
Spartak 2 - Parma 1

Spartak 2 - 1 Parma

Feedback:
Both sides going forward look quite tasty, the difference in class between the two forwards edges it though for Spartak. One a CL winning striker with a proven track record at the highest level, the other plays for Leeds.

A good game with both sides playing decent football, but both sides are strong in the middle of the park, cancelling each other out somewhat. Spartak have the better striker, but both strikers have great service and are up against beatable defenders. I think Spartak nick the win in a high scoring game, but Parma have a great base, just need to improve upfront. Based on the discussion the other day, McCormack will probably come good but here and now he needs upgrading.

Spartak Good: Midfield and attack is strong and quick.
Spartak Bad: Weak defensively, needs attention.
Spartak Moscow Feedback: A good line-up but i can't see Spartak scoring today as i see that both teams are evenly matched in all areas of the pitch and the only result i can see is a 0-0 draw.

Parma Feedback: A good line-up but like Spartak i can't see Parma scoring today as i see that both teams are evenly matched in all areas of the pitch and the only result i can see is a 0-0 draw.
Parma Good: Wingers and midfield very good.
Parma Bad: Rami unable to do much against Drogba, worth bearing in mind.

Santos 1 - Lazio 2
Santos 0 - Lazio 2
Santos 1 - Lazio 1
Santos 0 - Lazio 1

Divided by 4 - Santos 0.25 - Lazio 1.5

Santos 0-1 Lazio

Feedback:
Santos's midfield whilst excelling when possession is just too lightweight for me when it comes to regaining possession, whilst Romulo was a decent DM he's been out for 18 months in RL and is being very slowly eased back into the game, he's not played 90 minutes yet since he returned and it's a big task sticking to Cabaye.

Lazios tactics were set up well to deal with the Santos danger areas, I felt the midfield battle was key and Lazio won it

Santos Feedback: String line-up with a good balance to the side, Eto'o manages to get a goal for Santos today by turning his marker and scoring from inside the box, I feel this was a strong point today and Eto'o is a great signing for Santos.

Lazio Feedback: Good line-up with lots of ability. Defoe has many chances in the game but can't convert until late on in the game when he manages to get free and score the equaliser.

Ajax & Lyon get 2-0 default wins
Everyone but CF gets a 1m Bonus for on time Tactics & Votes.

by Marky Wed 30 Apr 2014, 10:38 pm

To be fair since those tactics I've added three more to my squad, and looking to add more next week. But well played Gregers, I had a feeling you flooding the midfield would win you the game.

by Marky Thu 01 May 2014, 1:40 pm

Tactics sent to Nando. Also would like to add we're looking for new managers to replace Tranq and CF as both have fallen foul of the "three strikes" rule (no tactics or votes three times in a row), Torino with a good squad or QPR with an indifferent squad albeit with loads of cash to invest.

by MtotheC Thu 01 May 2014, 4:40 pm

So i'm hearing good things about this (all be it from Marky) I want in!

QPR please Nando

What do I need to do next?

by Fernando Thu 01 May 2014, 4:42 pm

Welcome Aboard MTC

All i need for you is to Copy & Paste everything from : https://www.606v2.com/t51926-quitepoorresults and make your own page into this section: https://www.606v2.com/f224-the-gregalicious-league

Tactics are due to tomorrow at midnight so just send via PM to me Cool

by **Hero** Thu 01 May 2014, 4:42 pm

Welcome onboard fella!

Best thing to do is get the team sheet that CF has done and re-add it as your own.

CF did sell your best player a couple of days ago, it might be worthwhile seeing if that could be reversed.

by MtotheC Thu 01 May 2014, 4:45 pm

Hero wrote:Welcome onboard fella!

Best thing to do is get the team sheet that CF has done and re-add it as your own.

CF did sell your best player a couple of days ago, it might be worthwhile seeing if that could be reversed.

I agree that should most deff 100% be reversed... I need my best player! He is central to my plans (who was that? by the way?)

by Marky Thu 01 May 2014, 4:48 pm

Fabio Coentrao. I would argue he's gone, but that's up to Nando. His decision is final as far as I'm concerned.

Also, CF, if you're reading this, you're fired for not doing votes last week, not doing tactics this week and not voting this week. Yet you had time to come on, sell your best player, then leave Laugh

by Fernando Thu 01 May 2014, 4:49 pm

Fabio Coentrao for 15.265m - You may reverse the deal obviously that will be deducted from your budget thumbsup

by **Hero** Thu 01 May 2014, 4:51 pm

Marky wrote:Fabio Coentrao. I would argue he's gone, but that's up to Nando. His decision is final as far as I'm concerned.

Also, CF, if you're reading this, you're fired for not doing votes last week, not doing tactics this week and not voting this week. Yet you had time to come on, sell your best player, then leave

That's why I'd argue for MOTC to be able to keep Coentrao more than anything, he didn't do tactics but still had the time to make his team worse for the next person.

by MtotheC Thu 01 May 2014, 4:52 pm

Fernando wrote:Fabio Coentrao for 15.265m - You may reverse the deal

For my first duty as the managing directing head coach of Q.P.R I choose to reverse the deal... Coentrao stays at his spirtual home... Loftus Road.

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