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Post by George Carlin Tue 29 Apr 2014, 7:27 am

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Friday 2 May 2014, KO: 20:00 (local), 19:00 (UK and Ireland)
Stadio Comunale di Monigo, Treviso

Referee: George Clancy (IRFU, 62nd competition game)Benetton Treviso v Glasgow Warriors, 2 May - Page 2 Gaah16
Assistant Referees: Andrea Spadoni, Simone Boaretto (both FIR)
Citing Commissioner: Stefano Marrama (FIR)
TMO: Stefano Penne (FIR)

Live on Mediast/BBC ALBA

A. Teams:

I. Benetton Treviso
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15 Brendan Williams
14 Ludovico Nitoglia
13 Michele Campagnaro
12 Luke McLean
11 Angelo Esposito
10 Mat Berquist
09 Tobias Botes

08 Marco Filippucci
07 Paul Derbyshire
06 Manoa Vosawai
05 Marco Fuser
04 Antonio Pavanello (c)
03 Lorenzo Cittadini
02 Leonardo Ghiraldini
01 Alberto De Marchi

16 Giovanni Maistri
17 Matteo Muccignat
18 Ignacio Fernandez-Rouyet
19 Valerio Bernabò
20 Dean Budd
21 Alberto Sgarbi
22 Fabio Semenzato
23 James Ambrosini

II. Glasgow Warriors
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01 Reid
02 MacArthur
03 Cross
04 Swinson
05 Gray
06 Harley
07 Holmes
08 Strauss (c)

09 Pyrgos
10 Russell
11 Matawalu
12 Horne
13 Bennett
14 Seymour
15 Hogg

16 Brown
17 Grant
18 Welsh
19 Nakarawa
20 Fusaro
21 Cusiter
22 Jackson
23 Maitland

B. Form - head to head:

7 Played 7
2 Wins 5
5 Losses 2
0 Draws 0
7 Tries 17
6 Conversions 14
12 Penalties 16
2 Drop Goals 0
89 Points 161
26 Avg. Age 25

C. Form - this season & last:

Sat 27 October 2012, 19:05
Benetton Treviso 13 - 24 Glasgow Warriors
Stadio di Monigo

Fri 4 January 2013, 19:30
Glasgow Warriors 41 - 7 Benetton Treviso
Scotstoun

Fri 4 April 2014, 19:35
Glasgow Warriors 29 - 10 Benetton Treviso
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 01 May 2014, 2:25 pm

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Post by Weegie Wizard Thu 01 May 2014, 2:27 pm

A guy knows a guy that saw him with a guy from Ulster. Apparently his agent was there (not sure how the guy knew that guy was his agent  chin ).

A website in Ulster renowned for getting things wrong reported it then we all started slating him for being a mercenary.

Same old

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Post by nickj Thu 01 May 2014, 2:35 pm

Cheers chaps. His recent absence has been down to his ban right? Rather than any 'fitness' issues?

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 01 May 2014, 2:47 pm

nickj wrote:Cheers chaps. His recent absence has been down to his ban right? Rather than any 'fitness' issues?

Ban initially, followed by a hamstring niggle that he picked up in training

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Post by nickj Thu 01 May 2014, 3:10 pm

I see. Cheers ASBO. BTW I spotted a comment in the Scotsman Glasgow / Treviso preview comment thread that also suggested Hogg is off to Ulster. I hope its not true, it would be a damn shame if Glasgow lost such a good, young player to one of their nearest rivals.

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Post by George Carlin Thu 01 May 2014, 3:18 pm

Hogg thing was storm in a teacup in a quiet news week.
When Hoggy has a stormer tomorrow, we'll all be relieved.

We absolutely have to stuff Treviso with BP tomorrow. The sheer unadulterated luxury of knowing we have a home semi, followed by one final game against what are supposed to be the poorest team in the league. As a Scot, my brain almost cannot accept a win-win scenario like this.
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu 01 May 2014, 3:27 pm

George Carlin wrote:Hogg thing was storm in a teacup in a quiet news week.
When Hoggy has a stormer tomorrow, we'll all be relieved.

We absolutely have to stuff Treviso with BP tomorrow. The sheer unadulterated luxury of knowing we have a home semi, followed by one final game against what are supposed to be the poorest team in the league. As a Scot, my brain almost cannot accept a win-win scenario like this.

Do we have to play the "pampered jades of the east" again?

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Post by jimbopip Thu 01 May 2014, 3:31 pm

Which is harder to accept; a win-win situation, Toonie renouncing his Muppetness, Richie V becoming a genuinely good centre, the fact that we will play a team we have already beaten this season in the semi OR the MFL keep giving us promising young players?
If that back line get enough ball tomorrow night then we could have 5points by half time.

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Post by IanBru Thu 01 May 2014, 3:46 pm

Two things that really struck me about Treviso when they played the jazz flute connoisseurs back in March was how poor their centre defence was, but also how good their back three were.

The way Scott continually cut through the 12-13 axis, with even the slightest lateral drift from the defence inviting a brilliant straightening up and a resulting line break, I still can't work out how the jades failed to win that match.

I suppose that bringing McLean closer to the action is an attempt to address the defensive frailties.
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Post by BigGee Thu 01 May 2014, 3:58 pm

Good team for Glasgow. Very pleased they are not looking to take this one easy, a bit of more gentle rotation to the bench for a few players is about right. The same will apply again next week, can't afford to take any games to easy now and there are potentially only 3 more to go after this one, so only gentle rests allowed from now on!

Glad to see Hoggy back even if it is a bit hard on Murchie who has played well and hardly deserves to be dropped. He is one of our X men though and we do need to get him back in the saddle for the run in. He needs to have a good game though or else he could get left behind, can you believe that is even being contemplated!

Are we going to see Weir again this season? I thought they might have eased him back in for this game but it was not to be. Maybe his crisis of form and confidence is deeper that we thought. I am not worried about Russell playing but wonder how this will effect Weir. More than likely we will see him play next week against Zebre, which should be the kind of run out to allow him to regain his mojo. It is a bit worrying though that he has gone from starting Scotland FH to being not able to get into the team in such a short space of time!

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Post by RDW Thu 01 May 2014, 4:03 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:RDW

It most certainly did not!  warning 

The Ulster boys and various Scottish posters were talking about it long before I ever said anything on the matter.

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Post by George Carlin Thu 01 May 2014, 4:07 pm

Something that was glossed over at the time, Weir actually broke his nose about 2 matches ago and spent about 20 minutes on the pitch wondering which of the balls that he could see he was actually holding. Not unreasonable that it's something like this keeping him out.
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Post by IanBru Thu 01 May 2014, 4:47 pm

George Carlin wrote:Something that was glossed over at the time, Weir actually broke his nose about 2 matches ago and spent about 20 minutes on the pitch wondering which of the balls that he could see he was actually holding. Not unreasonable that it's something like this keeping him out.
There's a joke in there somewhere, possibly involving ASBO's free NHS checkup, but I for one am too afraid to make it...
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Post by funnyExiledScot Thu 01 May 2014, 5:48 pm

IanBru wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Something that was glossed over at the time, Weir actually broke his nose about 2 matches ago and spent about 20 minutes on the pitch wondering which of the balls that he could see he was actually holding. Not unreasonable that it's something like this keeping him out.
There's a joke in there somewhere, possibly involving ASBO's free NHS checkup, but I for one am too afraid to make it...

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Post by IanBru Thu 01 May 2014, 6:49 pm

Wahooo!! We're in the playoffs baby!!!
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Post by VinceWLB Thu 01 May 2014, 6:54 pm

Zebre have just won which leaves Treviso bottom of the table and out of the European competition.

Treviso will be up for this.

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Post by 123456789 Thu 01 May 2014, 7:33 pm

You can tell we're Scottish when we decide a team is worth worrying about because they are bottom of the table

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Post by GLove39 Thu 01 May 2014, 7:36 pm

As we've seen in many of Scotland's gritty and great victories (England 2000, England 2008, South Africa 2010 etc) never underestimate a team at the bottom of the table with their backs to the walls.

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Post by George Carlin Thu 01 May 2014, 7:45 pm

VinceWLB wrote:Zebre have just won which leaves Treviso bottom of the table and out of the European competition.

Treviso will be up for this.
Isn't the opposite going to be true? Ospreys fans must be tearing their hair out, mind.
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Post by VinceWLB Thu 01 May 2014, 8:35 pm

George Carlin wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:Zebre have just won which leaves Treviso bottom of the table and out of the European competition.

Treviso will be up for this.
Isn't the opposite going to be true? Ospreys fans must be tearing their hair out, mind.

Yes sure, Toonie will have to name a strong team against Zebre too as this is another banana skin..

8 points from these 2 games should be enough for a home semi, hopefully.

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Post by alexgmacdonald Thu 01 May 2014, 8:47 pm

Strong line up.

Russell, Horne and Bennett looks like a very talented midfield.

I see Glasgow winning and getting the bonus point late on. Hoggy with the fourth try Wink

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Post by RDW Fri 02 May 2014, 12:20 pm

All of a suddent Treviso need to win some games to take back Euro qualification from Zebre - who would have thought it!

This is definitely going to be a tough game for Glasgow.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Fri 02 May 2014, 12:32 pm

From the Hoorald:

Strauss remains on front line as other Warriors withdraw . . .

by Alasdair Reid, Rugby reporter
Friday 2 May 2014

A long-running theme of Gregor Townsend's career as a professional player was his frustrating and often unsuccessful quest to find a club which could offer him consistent selection at fly-half.

What do they say about victims becoming aggressors? The choice of Finn Russell as playmaker in the Glasgow Warriors team for tonight's match with Benetton Treviso in the Stadio Monigo is the seventh game in succession where Townsend has made a change in the one position where most rugby followers would probably assume that a bit of stability might be a good thing.

Still, as Townsend's side has also won those last six outings, perhaps there is method in his, well, method. While the coach's faith in continuity has apparently weakened, he has become a strong believer in the value of competition and at fly-half he has an embarrassment of riches. Russell, Ruaridh Jackson and Duncan Weir have all worn the No.10 shirt in winning Warriors sides over the past few weeks, while Stuart Hogg and Peter Horne could both step into the role if asked.

Curiously enough, full-back Hogg and inside-centre Horne both return to a side that features 10 changes - eight of personnel and two positional - from the team that defeated Edinburgh 37-34 last weekend. Such sweeping alterations might, in part, measure Townsend's disappointment at leaking four tries and two bonus points to their inter-city rivals, but it is also clear that he expects a rather different kind of game in Italy than the one he witnessed at Scotstoun six days ago.

The clearest sign of that is in the selection of Tim Swinson and Jonny Gray as the Warriors' second row. That means no place - even on the bench - for Al Kellock, the club captain, the thinking being that the chosen combination will bring greater physicality against a Treviso pack which might misfire in many areas but is never short of grunt.

Townsend explained that many of the changes are the consequence of his wish to rest players who have had a heavy schedule of games recently. However, that thinking clearly does not apply to Josh Strauss, the powerhouse No.8 who this season has figured in 17 of Glasgow's 20 RaboDirect PRO12 games and five of their six Heineken Cup matches. Nor have these been 60-minute shifts, for Strauss has played the full 80 in all but two of his last nine outings for the Warriors.

"Yes, I've played a lot of games and that takes its toll, especially now I'm not as young as once was," said the 27-year-old. "But the people in charge of conditioning here look after us well, fully take into account what people have been doing. If you have had a heavy schedule you maybe get to take things a bit easier in training. It is managed very well and I don't think anyone is feeling burned out or overworked at the moment."

Just as well, too, for a home semi-final in the PRO12 play-offs is a tantalisingly close prospect at the moment. Two wins, just one with a bonus point, from their two remaining league games - they will finish their regular season against Zebre at Scotstoun next weekend - would guarantee that prize, although results elsewhere could get them there with less. That Glasgow will definitely be in the play-offs was guaranteed last night after Zebre's victory over Ospreys.

"It [playing at Scotstoun] would be a great advantage to us," Strauss admitted. "If we can win our last two games we will be sitting in a good place. That would be great for us because our crowd has been great all season and we had a record attendance last week. It would be great to get a big support out in a home semi-final, a real boost to morale and confidence, so that's a big focus for us."

Edinburgh might have been flattered by their three-point margin last weekend, but they still scored more tries and more points against Glasgow than any other PRO12 side has managed this season. Not surprisingly, defensive drills have figured high on the list of training priorities at Scotstoun these past few days but Strauss suggested that some allowance should be made for the particular context of the Edinburgh game.

"It was a bit of a wake-up call to lose four tries," said the South African. "But I think with it being the 1872 Cup, a derby with all the rivalry there is there, that can have a big effect on form. It is a very emotional game for both sides and you have to take that into account.

"You have to take a longer view of the past few weeks, where we have been pretty good in defence. Yes, we did slip up against Edinburgh a few times, but we've done a lot of work to try and fix that and get back to our best. We don't want to have other teams looking at what Edinburgh did and thinking they have found a weakness in our system. I think it was just momentary lapses. We've just been trying to work on a few things to bring us back to our best."

Emotion will also play a part for Treviso tonight as a number of their players make their final home appearances for the side. On top of which, the club itself is set to be reconstituted ahead of next season's PRO12 competition and will no longer be under the aegis of Benetton, the fashion giant which has its headquarters in Treviso and has been its major backer for 35 years

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Post by Weegie Wizard Fri 02 May 2014, 1:13 pm

I think we should be carefull that we don't talk ourselves into a lack of confidence here.
Whilst Treviso are better at home than away, they have won 26pts at home compared to Edinburgh's 31.

They will be up for this game after last night's result but will be equally confident of us horsing Zebre next week.

If we have any credibility as potential winners this year, this is a 5 point game. No excuses.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 02 May 2014, 1:22 pm

I completely agree. 5 points is a must here. Glasgow are on a roll and Treviso are dreadful.

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri 02 May 2014, 6:38 pm

Just win it Warriors! The rest we can do next week.  Yahoo 



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Post by BigGee Fri 02 May 2014, 6:42 pm

4 points good, 5 will be a bonus. I hope and think that they are to canny a team now to fall into the trap of chasing the game to early on. The bench is there for that if needed. I don't think it will be!

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Post by GLove39 Fri 02 May 2014, 7:10 pm

Front row seems to be struggling a bit, Treviso getting the nudge on both times. Might see Grant on early.

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Post by BigGee Fri 02 May 2014, 7:13 pm

Glasgow in a game here, Italians look like they are up for it. Defence much better though, looks back to normal. Silly penalty though

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Post by GLove39 Fri 02 May 2014, 7:23 pm

Great dribbling by Seymour.

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Post by BigGee Fri 02 May 2014, 7:23 pm

Well that should settle things down. Great opportunism from Seymour

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Post by IanBru Fri 02 May 2014, 7:31 pm

Good to see Clownshoes down to his usual standard.
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Post by Weegie Wizard Fri 02 May 2014, 7:36 pm

Can't blame much of this on him - handling and discipline from both teams is fairly poor

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Post by GLove39 Fri 02 May 2014, 7:38 pm

We're seeing tonight just how much we'll miss Cusiter next season. Pythagoras' service not as sharp.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Fri 02 May 2014, 7:46 pm

Bennett with a monster penalty!
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Post by GLove39 Fri 02 May 2014, 7:46 pm

What a kick by  angel 

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Post by BigGee Fri 02 May 2014, 7:49 pm

Blimmey, Bennett got some boot on him!

10 points probably flatters us a bit, but not going to argue with it. Tighten up the discipline, cut out the miracle passes and the game is ours. Harley doing his usual shift in defence has been the pick of the team so far for me.

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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth Fri 02 May 2014, 7:53 pm

GLove39 wrote:We're seeing tonight just how much we'll miss Cusiter next season. Pythagoras' service not as sharp.

Agree that we will really miss Cus (in his recent form) and no great fan of Henry, but it must be hard to not have played any Rugby in weeks and then come straight into a big game like this.




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Post by Dorothy_Mantooth Fri 02 May 2014, 7:55 pm

BigGee wrote:Blimmey, Bennett got some boot on him!

10 points probably flatters us a bit, but not going to argue with it. Tighten up the discipline, cut out the miracle passes and the game is ours. Harley doing his usual shift in defence has been the pick of the team so far for me.

Its not been a classic, looks sodden under foot. Difference is that we have taken our chance well and we have defended well. Think if we get the next score it will be a big step towards a home semi.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Fri 02 May 2014, 8:02 pm

...and now a 17 point lead. Great start to the second half!

Tommy Seymour has a lot a good luck on this pitch!
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Post by BigGee Fri 02 May 2014, 8:02 pm

Terrible tackling by Treviso, that and the conversion should be the game. I wonder if the Italians still fancy it. Plenty of time left to score two more.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Fri 02 May 2014, 8:06 pm

GORDY REID FIR THE LINEEEEE
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Post by GLove39 Fri 02 May 2014, 8:07 pm

WHAT A TRY!!!!!

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Post by BigGee Fri 02 May 2014, 8:07 pm

Another great try. Gordon Reid showing some pace. well made by Hoggy though!

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Post by Weegie Wizard Fri 02 May 2014, 8:11 pm

And some terrific moves after as well

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Post by GLove39 Fri 02 May 2014, 8:18 pm

Hatrick for Tommy Scoremore!!!!!

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Fri 02 May 2014, 8:19 pm

TOMMY SEYMOUR!

What a finish for his hat-trick  Yahoo 
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Post by GLove39 Fri 02 May 2014, 8:20 pm

And there's the bonus point  Very Happy 

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Post by BigGee Fri 02 May 2014, 8:21 pm

Tommy Seymour is on fire! Great vision from Henry to put him away and a great individual try with some optional Italian tackling to assist.

Lets play some sevens now!

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Post by George Carlin Fri 02 May 2014, 8:25 pm

Lovely news. Conversely, there's some angry stuff at Ravenhill. 8-9 to the Ladyboys at half time but that game already contains a red card (against Ulster) and two yellows.
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