The "All-in" Junior world cup thread
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The "All-in" Junior world cup thread
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With 6 games on today didnt feel like jumping around the various u20 posts for each side...
On now is Scotland vs SA- Scots ahead after 16 mins 5-0, now SA 7-5 after 18.
Wales are leading Fiji 14-5 after scoring a try after 7 seconds! An average kick of to the left was left to bounce by the Fijians and Wales came through at full pace catching the ball after the bounce and scored in the corner. Other than the ball bouncing I don't think you can get a quicker try.
Aus thrashed Argie 36-17.
With 6 games on today didnt feel like jumping around the various u20 posts for each side...
On now is Scotland vs SA- Scots ahead after 16 mins 5-0, now SA 7-5 after 18.
Wales are leading Fiji 14-5 after scoring a try after 7 seconds! An average kick of to the left was left to bounce by the Fijians and Wales came through at full pace catching the ball after the bounce and scored in the corner. Other than the ball bouncing I don't think you can get a quicker try.
Aus thrashed Argie 36-17.
Taylorman- Posts : 12343
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no way...he actually gave england a penalty for the SA LH boring in....only took 75 minutes FFS
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Scrums are a lottery and have become a part of the game I dislike. I question the legality of England's technique. Reminds me of the last time SA played at Twickers. England were given 3 penalties in the first half from scrums which at half time in skysports were shown to have resulted from Corbs illegally scrumming in.
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that was a silly offload from the England winger there, sometimes you have to take the contact and recycle...
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Biltong wrote:Referee not penalising England at all in their red zone, but very quick on the whistle in the SA red zone
Certainly some odd decisions, or should that be non-decisions, though I think he's been bad rather than favouring one team or the other.
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Not sure why the English supporters are complaining so much, they got all the calls at the breakdown.
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yawn. you obviously havent been watching the scrums kia.
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Huge scrum needed now!
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disagree. he has been consistent throughout, just consistently soft at the breakdown, and not blowing the whistle at all at the scrum.Biltong wrote:Not sure why the English supporters are complaining so much, they got all the calls at the breakdown.
pollard should have been off the pitch which was another huge howler.
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England win in a game full of errors but we will take it
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Win!!!!!
Well played England!
Hard luck SA about as close as it gets.d
Well played England!
Hard luck SA about as close as it gets.d
nobbled- Posts : 1196
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England hold on. Some smart if boring rugby sees them keep posession for the last two minutes, and their scrum holds up, allowing Burns to boot the ball high into the stands.
Well done England
Well done England
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not in this game. england front row was very square and very strong. SA LH was like a piece of paper how quickly he folded sideways, all game long, even the replacement!MMaaxx wrote:Scrums are a lottery and have become a part of the game I dislike. I question the legality of England's technique. Reminds me of the last time SA played at Twickers. England were given 3 penalties in the first half from scrums which at half time in skysports were shown to have resulted from Corbs illegally scrumming in.
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World Cup retained!
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Just goes to show, it isn't all about size eh?
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I'm watching quins but I find your comments on this thread mirror exactly the things you criticise about other fans.
That said, I think England deserved to win and that's a well deserved double. Congratulations.
That said, I think England deserved to win and that's a well deserved double. Congratulations.
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Or 10 man rugby........
Pollard struggled when not kicking, he let us back in.
Our scrum was dominant throughout and a deserved win.
Pollard struggled when not kicking, he let us back in.
Our scrum was dominant throughout and a deserved win.
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nice gracious speeches by both captains.
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Great stuff boys...!
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But sure didn't Suárez score the two goals???? Were they disallowed? I'm confused now.... but at least Roy will be in better form now that he realises he won afterall.
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Good game.
Well done England
Well done England
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SecretFly wrote:But sure didn't Suárez score the two goals???? Were they disallowed? I'm confused now.... but at least Roy will be in better form now that he realises he won afterall.
are you on the right thread?
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i rarely complain about refs. and i dont care when others do tbh. it is extremely obvious that the quality of refs at the jwc level is far below what i am used to seeing at NH senior club and intl level. especially when it comes to scrums, which are a much bigger part of the NH game.kiakahaaotearoa wrote:I'm watching quins but I find your comments on this thread mirror exactly the things you criticise about other fans.
That said, I think England deserved to win and that's a well deserved double. Congratulations.
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Fantastic!
Back-to-back champions
Back-to-back champions
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Bodes well for Englands future...we have some crackers coming through!
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How come Stephenson wasn't playing, is it because he missed the start of the tournament due to being with the Saints and couldn't get back in the team?
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Cyril wrote:Fantastic!
Back-to-back champions
Pity about the soccer though.
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rodders wrote:Cyril wrote:Fantastic!
Back-to-back champions
Pity about the soccer though.
football, please, call it football
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Yeah, I've no idea why they subbed Charlton in 1970 vs West Germany.rodders wrote:Cyril wrote:Fantastic!
Back-to-back champions
Pity about the soccer though.
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It is an achievement for England. Congratulations to them. They done the biz. Undoubtedly the talk will already be moving on for an ambitious unit, and three in a row will be already being mentioned .... and who would bet against it?
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Well done England
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Mad for Chelsea wrote:rodders wrote:Cyril wrote:Fantastic!
Back-to-back champions
Pity about the soccer though.
football, please, call it football
Yeah but that might confuse folks because England play rugby football with 10 men as well.
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i think the margins of victory will prevent anyone getting too excited. beating SA by 1 point, and coming back from 15 behind against Wales in 2013 to win by 1 score, hardly give england the right to talk of global domination!SecretFly wrote:It is an achievement for England. Congratulations to them. They done the biz. Undoubtedly the talk will already be moving on for an ambitious unit, and three in a row will be already being mentioned .... and who would bet against it?
although i am sure they would love to win 3 in a row.
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rodders wrote:Mad for Chelsea wrote:rodders wrote:Cyril wrote:Fantastic!
Back-to-back champions
Pity about the soccer though.
football, please, call it football
Yeah but that might confuse folks because England play rugby football with 10 men as well.
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rodders wrote:Mad for Chelsea wrote:rodders wrote:Cyril wrote:Fantastic!
Back-to-back champions
Pity about the soccer though.
football, please, call it football
Yeah but that might confuse folks because England play rugby football with 10 men as well.
you, sir, are a genius
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how many of the players were involved last year?
It would be much more impressive if it was literally a different side?
Handre already is a starter for the bulls so they faced a good side. And Kriel looks a very good player too.
It would be much more impressive if it was literally a different side?
Handre already is a starter for the bulls so they faced a good side. And Kriel looks a very good player too.
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So who is going to 'make it' from the player's we've seen at the tournament?
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Englands 13 looks poor. Kriel had his number time and time again.
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fa0019 wrote:Englands 13 looks poor. Kriel had his number time and time again.
Yes he looked good going forward but looked very fragile when defending.
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not sure about that fa. tompkins made the break that scored england's first try against the run of play in the first half. and when he missed that tackle he lost his footing and slid into his man. some good, some bad, but definitely not all bad.
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Great win lads well done
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quinsforever wrote:i rarely complain about refs. and i dont care when others do tbh. it is extremely obvious that the quality of refs at the jwc level is far below what i am used to seeing at NH senior club and intl level. especially when it comes to scrums, which are a much bigger part of the NH game.kiakahaaotearoa wrote:I'm watching quins but I find your comments on this thread mirror exactly the things you criticise about other fans.
That said, I think England deserved to win and that's a well deserved double. Congratulations.
Haven't seen the game. Well done England. Two best sides in the final. Close game. Heard similar comments from an ex AB and current coach on the radio. Thought the refereeing wasn't the best. Thought the baby boks would feel pretty hard done by. Good to see you felt the same way Quins.
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fa0019 wrote:how many of the players were involved last year?
It would be much more impressive if it was literally a different side?
Handre already is a starter for the bulls so they faced a good side. And Kriel looks a very good player too.
There were 5 in the 23 in the final last year in the final this year.
Harry Sloan, Ross Moriarty, Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi, Callum Braley and Henry Purdy.
EDIT: Watson is still eligible but was on the main tour.
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quinsforever wrote:i think the margins of victory will prevent anyone getting too excited. beating SA by 1 point, and coming back from 15 behind against Wales in 2013 to win by 1 score, hardly give england the right to talk of global domination!SecretFly wrote:It is an achievement for England. Congratulations to them. They done the biz. Undoubtedly the talk will already be moving on for an ambitious unit, and three in a row will be already being mentioned .... and who would bet against it?
although i am sure they would love to win 3 in a row.
Those wins - because they are so close - they are not err 'devalued' are they?
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Stats for points this JWC
1 NZ 196 (28 tries)
2 Eng 181 (22 tries)
3 Aus 176 (24)
4 SA 167 (22)
1 NZ 196 (28 tries)
2 Eng 181 (22 tries)
3 Aus 176 (24)
4 SA 167 (22)
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lostinwales wrote:Stats for points this JWC
1 NZ 196 (28 tries)
2 Eng 181 (22 tries)
3 Aus 176 (24)
4 SA 167 (22)
Unfortunately we played 10 man rugby. In our case we didn't include the tight 5.
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blackcanelion wrote:lostinwales wrote:Stats for points this JWC
1 NZ 196 (28 tries)
2 Eng 181 (22 tries)
3 Aus 176 (24)
4 SA 167 (22)
Unfortunately we played 10 man rugby. In our case we didn't include the tight 5.
You flat track bullies you
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Missed the game but delighted we won. Sounds like the usual disagreements re the ref which is a bit of a shame but I guess inevitable. Does anyone know if they'll have the full game up anywhere.
Also, how much did we use the rolling maul. I thought overall we played some good rugby in other games but perhaps focused on it a bit too much for my liking.
Also, how much did we use the rolling maul. I thought overall we played some good rugby in other games but perhaps focused on it a bit too much for my liking.
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Scored a try from it and made some good progress at other times but the whole game was a bit scrappy with plenty of handling errors. Also, the lineout didn't function too well in the first half so didn't have the platform to use the maul too much.
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It was used by both sides, Hoody.Hood83 wrote:Missed the game but delighted we won. Sounds like the usual disagreements re the ref which is a bit of a shame but I guess inevitable. Does anyone know if they'll have the full game up anywhere.
Also, how much did we use the rolling maul. I thought overall we played some good rugby in other games but perhaps focused on it a bit too much for my liking.
But England got points from one and pretty much closed the game out using it.
Actually, I thought the Saffers 'deserved' the win overall. I also thought that the ref played for only one side except that he forgot to change ends at half time. For them in the 1st and for us in the 2nd.
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