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Post by mobilemaster8 Mon 18 Aug 2014, 9:26 am

First topic message reminder :

De La Hoya and Thurman have publicly come out and stated that they WILL travel to the UK for a shot at Brook in a welterweight title fight.

Now not many thought this would be the case, but now that they have mentioned it, surely that's a very big fight for both in a unification fight??

I'd be very impressed by Brook if he took this. After all, he is the champion and wants the big names now he is at the top of his game.

How do we see it going?

Its a different animal compared to porter in different ways ie.the style, power.

He does not rush in but is a damn hard punchers.

Can brook outbox him using his jab which at times look good vs Porter.

I'd go with a Brook UD or a Thurman KO.

I think Thurman will come to the UK under the idea that he HAS to knock out Brook to get the belt.

Either that or Brook vs Khan.

Some good fights being touted for him.....let's hope he keeps to his word don't fight some randomers.

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Post by 3fingers Tue 19 Aug 2014, 7:06 pm

Thurman vs Maidana
Maidana vs Provodnikov
Mayweather vs Thurman
Bradley vs Brook
Brook vs Khan
Khan vs Paquiao
Gavin vs Malignaggi
porter vs provodnikov

Are some welterweight fights I'd like to see

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Post by Guest Tue 19 Aug 2014, 7:58 pm

Gavin/Malignaggi...what benefit is that to Gavin...or Malignaggi for that matter?

Seems Thurman is now the new poster boy for the bandwagonning masses now Porter's bubble has been burst.

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Post by RanjitPatel Tue 19 Aug 2014, 9:08 pm

I remember a couple of years ago everyone was raving about Rios until he got shown up against Abril. Look at him now. Seems the hype bandwagon just drops one off to pick another up. Thurman's the driver now. Fair play and he'd be deserving of the hype if he'd beat anyone of note but he hasn't.

Time to calm down on him, he's nothing special.

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Post by milkyboy Tue 19 Aug 2014, 9:14 pm

Hype trains are a load of thomas the tank


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Post by DuransHorse Tue 19 Aug 2014, 9:15 pm

I'd agree that Bundu isn't top of my Christmas list in an ideal world.  

If fighters fought more regularly ( like the good old days only Rowley can remember ) then it would be more than acceptable, if they fought only twice a year but always the best available again I'd have no complaints... But the reality is most champions do only fight twice a year and they don't only fight the best available.

This is an era where the best in the sport is spending 2014 fighting Maidana.

Boxing has its highs but great fights and match-ups can be few and far between and they are not always the ones us fans want to see most.  With that in mind Bundu will be a test and comes with some threat of causing an upset so I can live with that for now.

Of course I'd rather see many of the other names mentioned but Bundu won't have me boycotting the fight in disgust.

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Post by 3fingers Tue 19 Aug 2014, 10:11 pm

Gavin vs malignaggi? If only to see a fight between two very good boxers. Personal preference, nothing to do with their careers, I'd just find it intriguing.

Thurman Bandwagon? Not sure I'm on that? Chose him fights against maidana and mayweather. The first because it pits two punches, the second to see how Mayweather does against a puncher who picks his shots (unlike maidana).

BTW Thurman has a very respectable amateur career, not international class but respectable all the same, holding 6 national titles. He also has some decentish to decent wins over Quintana, Ziveck and Diaz (who he did a better number on than khan or porter)....not bad after 23 fights.

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Post by 3fingers Tue 19 Aug 2014, 10:18 pm

Certainly worthy of a world top ten spot. And until he beats a top 5 fighter he'll remain there.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue 19 Aug 2014, 10:25 pm

Yeh I'd agree with that Fingers.

Nicely put.

Gavin vs Malignaggi would be interesting from a "boxing" point of view.

I'm still adamant that if Paulie had power, he would have been a P4P fighter.

At times he boxes wonderfully.

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Post by 3fingers Tue 19 Aug 2014, 10:54 pm

Fit, big heart, good chin (last fight aside) and a good boxer. Definately p4p if he had power.

If fighters had more respect for his power I'm not sure how they would go about adjusting to beat him.

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Post by 3fingers Tue 19 Aug 2014, 10:55 pm

We should probably stop there before we're blamed for being on the paulie bandwagon Wink

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Post by milkyboy Tue 19 Aug 2014, 11:03 pm

Don't think you're in danger of getting crushed in the queue for tickets for the paulie  hype train gents.

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Post by theanimal316 Wed 20 Aug 2014, 9:17 am

It's amazing Paulie has had the career he has without power. 7 KO wins out of 33 is really low %. Off the top of my head it's difficult to think of other world champs with a lower KO%, i'm sure you guys can enlighten me with names of world champions with lower percentages.

Am confident it will be Khan next in November or December. It suits everyone at this time. Think Brook would want it as he genuinely seems to really dislike Khan, Khan would want it as he would be confident of adding a world title giving him leverage in the Mayweather negotiations, and Big Ed would want it cos it lines his pockets. I also don't know if Brook would want easy fights as he has waited so long for the big fights and will be full of confidence that he can take on anyone now that he has dethroned an American in America.

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Post by catchweight Wed 20 Aug 2014, 10:08 am

It doesnt look like it will Khan next. They plan on having Brook out in Sheffield in Dec/Jan and it wont be against Khan.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed 20 Aug 2014, 10:56 am

Well that's a bit odd Catch.

Have they stated it just WONT be khan?

Last I checked, Khan was looking to fight at the same period so he is ready to go as far as he says.

Can't think of any other fighters that would be ready apart from Thurman?

Don't know where Bradley is, no idea where the Ghost is...maidana, Floyd and manny are booked up.

Does this point to an easy defence against a nobodoy?

Suppose brook is used to that as is hearn

Shame.

:-(

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Post by catchweight Wed 20 Aug 2014, 11:04 am

I think they have pencilled 6th of December in Sheffield against a TBA. Khan is scheduled to fight on that date but against a different opponent. Summer is the earliest the fight could happen, if it even happens at all. Mayweather/Pacquiao will be on the hunt for new opponents then and if Khan wins his next fight then he will be in with a shout for one of them.

It doesnt look like Brook will be targetting a big name for December. Its a "homecoming" fight.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed 20 Aug 2014, 11:37 am

I'll be expecting a fighter like Gavin, Brundu, M.Hatton, Jones 3 (heard he retired?).

A good fight would be Alvarado, Provodnikov or The Ghost.

Decent names but ones in which he could look good against and send a message out.


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Post by RanjitPatel Wed 20 Aug 2014, 11:54 am

Anyone think that if Brook gets a good opponent out of the way in his next fight that he'd have a chance of getting the Mayweather fight next May?

Floyd seems to pick on form fighters like Ortiz, Guerrero et al. Nothing against Khan but I'd like to see Brook get there before him.

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Post by catchweight Wed 20 Aug 2014, 12:38 pm

Brook wont get Mayweather until he can show he gets good numbers. His fight with Porter supposedly bombed on Showtime. It was a big disappointment for them. Thats why a Khan fight makes perfect sense. If he can show big numbers on that and win the fight he would be in a good position. I think Mayweather will be looking closely at Danny Garcia if he beats Maidana. Garcia's mismatch against Salka drew almost twice as many viewers as Porter v Brook.

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Post by theanimal316 Wed 20 Aug 2014, 2:13 pm

catchweight wrote:I think they have pencilled 6th of December in Sheffield against a TBA. Khan is scheduled to fight on that date but against a different opponent. Summer is the earliest the fight could happen, if it even happens at all. Mayweather/Pacquiao will be on the hunt for new opponents then and if Khan wins his next fight then he will be in with a shout for one of them.

It doesnt look like Brook will be targetting a big name for December. Its a "homecoming" fight.

Just read that on Sky Sports Catchweight, makes sense. I'd have no problem with Bundu getting this homecoming fight. Unbeaten European champion and at the tail end of his career deserves a likely career high payday.

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Post by shanestatham Wed 20 Aug 2014, 2:33 pm

What about bringing Alexander over? Made for Brook. Big american name to draw some numbers and there is some needle between them. A very winnable fight IMO.

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Post by catchweight Wed 20 Aug 2014, 2:40 pm

God no. Not Alexander. Not a monster like him. This is a homecoming fight. Is Carson Jones available?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 20 Aug 2014, 2:43 pm

Not sure Alexander is a big enough name to draw flies let alone numbers.

Lost to every top fighter he's fought.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 20 Aug 2014, 2:44 pm

In fairness he did sneak past Matty I suppose

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Post by Dipper Brown Wed 20 Aug 2014, 2:55 pm

What is it with boxing fans, everyone seems utterly terrified of praising an up and coming fighter in case they turn out to be a 'hype job'.

Everyone seems obsessed with being the first to write a boxer off. Should GGG ever have a bad day at the office, people will be climbing over each other's backs to be the first to the keyboard.

Nothing happens when you get proven wrong, it's okay. You don't die. I once said Cristiano Ronaldo would never be as good as Arjen Robben. I didn't spontaneously combust when I was proven wrong!

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed 20 Aug 2014, 2:59 pm

GGG is 3 in a lot of p4p lists..

He's above criticism

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