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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 18 Oct 2014, 7:33 pm

Think this match deserves its own thread.

Leicester Tigers: Mathew Tait; Blaine Scully, Manu Tuilagi, Owen Williams, Vereniki Goneva; Freddie Burns, Ben Youngs (c); Marcos Ayerza, Leonardo Ghiraldini, Fraser Balmain, Brad Thorn, Graham Kitchener, Jamie Gibson, Julian Salvi, Jordan Crane
Replacements: Harry Thacker, Michele Rizzo, Tiziano Pasquali, Sebastian De Chaves, Robert Barbieri, David Mele, Sam Harrison, Miles Benjamin

Ulster: L Ludik; T Bowe, J Payne, S McCloskey, C Gilroy; P Jackson, P Marshall; A Warwick, R Best (c), W Herbst, L Stevenson, F van der Merwe, R Diack, C Henry, N Williams.
Replacements: R Herring, C Black, D Fitzpatrick, C Ross, R Wilson, M Heaney, S Olding, D Cave.

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 7:39 pm

Hard to call. Hope our scrum and maul is enough to pull us through.
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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 18 Oct 2014, 7:41 pm

No worries Notch we have this one sorted.......I hope.

May the best side win, good lick Tiggers, good luck my Ulster!!!

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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 7:41 pm

Well it's that time already. A must win for Leicester, and a win for Ulster will go a long way to help ensure we get out of the group.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 18 Oct 2014, 7:43 pm

Notch wrote:Hard to call. Hope our scrum and maul is enough to pull us through.

Thing is, Tigers have a potential match for Herbst at loosehead. Herbst has done a number on every scrum hes come up against in the Rabo. Ayerza, however I would rate as one of the best looseheads in the world. He took the Australia scrum apart recently in the RC in Buenos Aires. Its going to be a great battle between them 2. Kitchener has been great in the lineout as has Van der Merwe - another big battle there.

I have it pretty even up front on paper, Tigers form before their last game was poor so they need a big performance. My concern for Ulster is that our backline hasn't been that fluent and we have had a lot of different half back partnerships with Pienaar out and Jackson out for periods as well. Need Jackson to have his kicking boots as well.

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 7:50 pm

It's Andy Warwick my hopes rest on. If Herbst can hold his own, we need him and Bestie to target Balmain. Big if with a guy of his class but this is a good scrummaging front row.

We really need to be nailing those kicks.
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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 7:57 pm

If your Cockerill, that would annoy you so much. Massive hit, great tackle, they just didn't need to use their hands.
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:03 pm

Huge blow for the Tigers if that is a permanent substitution.

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:05 pm

Wrong question from Poite.
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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:08 pm

Ffs not Manu Sad Huge loss

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Post by marty2086 Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:09 pm

Notch wrote:Wrong question from Poite.

Got the penalty wrong before hand too against McCloskey, went through the gate and cleared the man out but took out the scrum half

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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:10 pm

Right decision. Would have been a ridiculous card.

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:11 pm

only just tuned in, for some reason i thought it was on tomorrow.

Hows the game been so far? Are we still poo?

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Post by marty2086 Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:11 pm

Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:Right decision. Would have been a ridiculous card.

If anything Benjamin was looking for the penalty, the ball was his but jumped at the last minute to get the contact

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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:13 pm

Sorry, not buying that at all. I think he just didn't track it well and had to jumpnat the last second to get it.

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:13 pm

marty2086 wrote:
Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:Right decision. Would have been a ridiculous card.

If anything Benjamin was looking for the penalty, the ball was his but jumped at the last minute to get the contact

no chance, he jumped to catch the ball which is perfectly normal. Just a pen is the right decision though.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:15 pm

Where was the white knock on ?

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:16 pm

Poite did see it being grounded and wanted to double check, which makes his question fair enough.

As for the Bowe thing, handled well Benjamin jumped late and Bowe wasn't expecting it- it happens. Nothing in it. Penalty and play on. Good reffing.

Ulster very hard done by by that knock on call though. Very frustrating.


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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:16 pm

No knock on there, no advantage. Flip sake Poite.

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:16 pm

glamorganalun wrote:Where was the white knock on ?

It came off his head. Frustrating it was a chance for seven
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Post by nathan Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:18 pm

great kick by burns.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:19 pm

The ref is France s revenge for Clancy

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:20 pm

What the hell was that Marshall- brain fart to end all brain farts.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:20 pm

Marshall.. picard

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Post by marty2086 Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:20 pm

Why did Poite tell Thorn to get away and when he didn't gave nothing?

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:21 pm

Good awareness from Young

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:22 pm

Oh for god's sake. This is a disaster. What the hell was that? And after the Payne thing last year? Unforgivable.


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Post by Artful_Dodger Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:22 pm

I think we might to coach wings and fullbacks how not to take men out in the air.

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:22 pm

Bring on Williams for the kicking and move him to 10

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:22 pm

who are we playing in the centres if Manu is off?

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Post by profitius Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:22 pm

Whats wrong with Ulster tonight? They're determined to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:23 pm

Burns get in

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Post by marty2086 Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:23 pm

Game over!

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:23 pm

This is completely dreadful from Ulster.

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:23 pm

Three very soft tries and an incredibly stupid yellow card. Couldn't be doing much worse.
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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:24 pm

Goneva at 13 Nathan. Miles on the wing.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:24 pm

marty2086 wrote:Game over!

No it isn't, did you not see the Munster game earlier?

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Post by nathan Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:24 pm

Get in! Great to see Youngs having a good game.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:24 pm

That's disgraceful from Gilroy a cynical tackle in the air with Benjamin landing on his upper shoulder. Should have been red. I hope he gets a big ban for that he's only going to get back on because Benjamin didn't stay down for treatment.

Nice to see Tigers turning it on. Youngs and Kitchener have been outstanding.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:24 pm

nathan wrote:who are we playing in the centres if Manu is off?

I'd guess Goneva with Benjamin to the wing

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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:25 pm

Burns making up for his poor kicking from the tee. I love him again

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Post by glamorganalun Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:25 pm

Good try, Ulster need to sort out their play and fast

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:26 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:I hope he gets a big ban for that

So much for Tigers don't cite.
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Post by lostinwales Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:26 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
marty2086 wrote:Game over!

No it isn't, did you not see the Munster game earlier?

To be fair I think the starting Tigers 15 are not that bad, barring the centers situation. The bench doesnt look good at all

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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:26 pm

That's twice the receiving player has jumped into the opposition purposely going for the penalty and you still get eejits calling for red cards????????

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Post by George Carlin Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:27 pm

Jeez - not an Ulster team that I recognize at the moment.

Gilroy just cost his team at least 7. Ulster players clearly all very frustrated.
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Post by nathan Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:27 pm

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formerly known as Sam wrote:I hope he gets a big ban for that

So much for Tigers don't cite.

??

A fan saying he hopes that he gets a good ban is the same as the actual tigers team citing someone?

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Post by Guest Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:28 pm

Pete330v2 wrote:That's twice the receiving player has jumped into the opposition purposely going for the penalty and you still get eejits calling for red cards????????
Pathetic.

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:28 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:That's disgraceful from Gilroy a cynical tackle in the air with Benjamin landing on his upper shoulder. Should have been red. I hope he gets a big ban for that he's only going to get back on because Benjamin didn't stay down for treatment.

Nice to see Tigers turning it on. Youngs and Kitchener have been outstanding.

Grow up it wasn't that bad.

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Post by Notch Sat 18 Oct 2014, 8:28 pm

Pete330v2 wrote:That's twice the receiving player has jumped into the opposition purposely going for the penalty and you still get eejits calling for red cards????????

Thats not what happened the second time, Gilroy was an idiot and was lucky. He won't get banned though, and what he did was so much worse than Paynes from last season.
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