Eddie Talks About His Twitter Critics

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Watch from 8.45min mark.

Could young Edward be starting to flap?

Strongback wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Rowley wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:One thing is for certain; you can never have too many anti Eddie Hearn threads on this site, keep them as we're such a willing audience.

Get many more and I am in danger of missing D4.

Good point, maybe we should do with all Strongy's obsessive Hearn threads what we did with all D4's tedious Manny dross and consistently merge them into one thread, since the subject never really changed anyway.

I'm bringing new material every time. Eddie just said anybody who voices descent about his November PPV is a Lemon.  By the way that includes you kid.

Derbymanc wrote:Let's face it, i've never claimed to have the superior knowledge of yourself and onetwo.

We can also face that your obsession is slightly creepy and borders on stalkerish.

Eddie's a businessman and entitled to do what he thinks is best for his business and his employee's (not just his boxers,) If it works then he's done the right thing by him. If it doesn't then he'll have to try something else.

-I think Matchroom has been good for British boxing the last few years, we've got to see some good matchups and he's brought Froch to the masses.

-This PPV could be a big mistake as it has the potential to turn fans away when it could have been used as a big Saturday Fight Night show to bring more fans in.
Hd
-Until the whole of boxing changes (including us fans) we're going to continue to see mismatches as the dreaded loss can derail a whole career.

I'm happy to debate the pro's and cons of any of this with you but you act like a conspiracy theorist if someone doesn't see things your way.

Eddie said he was all about the fans and giving them what they wanted, that was what his business model was all about. That is the way he promoted Matchroom and gained a lot of support. Now he is disregarding fan opinion and is putting on mismatch after mismatch and in his latest move he is charging PPV for a domestic card. Eddie was the very man who said PPV is only for very special events that come around every couple of years.

Eddie is too clever for his own good. His PR and heavily orchestrated Twitter campaign are back firing on him.

Have you seen Mr R Slicker on Twitter? He's a parade of guys like yourself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RetweetMeEddie

So... does Strongback not like Eddie Hearn, then?

Strongback wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Rowley wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:One thing is for certain; you can never have too many anti Eddie Hearn threads on this site, keep them as we're such a willing audience.

Get many more and I am in danger of missing D4.

Good point, maybe we should do with all Strongy's obsessive Hearn threads what we did with all D4's tedious Manny dross and consistently merge them into one thread, since the subject never really changed anyway.

I'm bringing new material every time. Eddie just said anybody who voices descent about his November PPV is a Lemon.  By the way that includes you kid.

Is that the same as voicing DISSENT? Or are we showing our HIPPOCRACY?

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The only people he's called lemons are those who don't respect others opinions, and instead starting giving abuse from behind their keyboard, a bit like you really.

Hampo, it's different when STRONGBACK does it because he comes from a position of such overwhelming arrogance, he makes Floyd Mayweather look like Windy in the humility stakes.

Strongback wrote:

Derbymanc wrote:Let's face it, i've never claimed to have the superior knowledge of yourself and onetwo.

We can also face that your obsession is slightly creepy and borders on stalkerish.

Eddie's a businessman and entitled to do what he thinks is best for his business and his employee's (not just his boxers,) If it works then he's done the right thing by him. If it doesn't then he'll have to try something else.

-I think Matchroom has been good for British boxing the last few years, we've got to see some good matchups and he's brought Froch to the masses.

-This PPV could be a big mistake as it has the potential to turn fans away when it could have been used as a big Saturday Fight Night show to bring more fans in.
Hd
-Until the whole of boxing changes (including us fans) we're going to continue to see mismatches as the dreaded loss can derail a whole career.

I'm happy to debate the pro's and cons of any of this with you but you act like a conspiracy theorist if someone doesn't see things your way.

Eddie said he was all about the fans and giving them what they wanted, that was what his business model was all about. That is the way he promoted Matchroom and gained a lot of support.  Now he is disregarding fan opinion and is putting on mismatch after mismatch and in his latest move he is charging PPV for a domestic card.  Eddie was the very man who said PPV is only for very special events that come around every couple of years.

Eddie is too clever for his own good. His PR and heavily orchestrated Twitter campaign are back firing on him.

Have you seen Mr R Slicker on Twitter? He's a parade of guys like yourself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RetweetMeEddie

Correct me if I'm wrong but he is giving the fans what they want....just because the mass of fans in this case are casual doesn't mean there not fans because they are. In fact, if were being honest they are now more important to boxing than us mere hardcore ones given were the ones who turn our noses up at every turn if we deem a card or fight unsuitable for our latest match-up craving. We can sit and argue the pitfalls of this till were blue in the face, the fact of the matter is that boxing is a niche sport...only given a certain amount of dates per year on the SKY platform of which Eddie has to attempt to make all of his fighters money and gain them exposure, take into mind that Matchroom don't actually receive any money from SKY in terms of cash...instead the production/staging/media etc costs are helped with.

Now of course it is Eddie's fault that he has so many fighters to find a payday for, after all he has decided to attempt a monopoly on British Boxing; however that is the business model he has chosen and he now has to make it work...even if it's at the expense of positive headlines amongst the twittersphere or sports forums of the world.

Personally I hope this PPV falls flat on it's face, if it does then it gives us proper fans some hope in the future that fights will be more 50/50 and cards on PPV will be of a higher standing. Should it be used as a stick to beat Eddie with...perhaps...but then weigh up the pro's and con's of having him in the sport and he still falls on the positive side for me.

As a fan what do I want from the sport;

Domestic Grudge Matches - Check (it is healthy for our domestic scene after all)
Olympic Stars/Promising Hopefuls on bills on a regular basis - Check
Brit's getting World title shots - Check
Long Time servants to the sport getting good pay days - Check

On all account's you can't argue that Hearn isn't delivering on these. Yes were going to have PPV's we don't like from time to time...Yes there will be match up's that aren't 50/50 (shock horror...anyone would think this has never happened in all these years of boxing)... but none of that is any different to the past. It's always happened, will always happen. Can sit and moan and vent our fury about it all we like...nothing will change unless the masses stand up to it and that won't happen because the masses are no longer the hardcore fans and the casuals are happy to just enjoy it and pay for it for what it is....a night with the lads...in front of bit of fighting with some beers and grub. Sometimes it's best to just join them instead of cutting off our noses to spite our face.

Strongback wrote:

Derbymanc wrote:Let's face it, i've never claimed to have the superior knowledge of yourself and onetwo.

We can also face that your obsession is slightly creepy and borders on stalkerish.

Eddie's a businessman and entitled to do what he thinks is best for his business and his employee's (not just his boxers,) If it works then he's done the right thing by him. If it doesn't then he'll have to try something else.

-I think Matchroom has been good for British boxing the last few years, we've got to see some good matchups and he's brought Froch to the masses.

-This PPV could be a big mistake as it has the potential to turn fans away when it could have been used as a big Saturday Fight Night show to bring more fans in.
Hd
-Until the whole of boxing changes (including us fans) we're going to continue to see mismatches as the dreaded loss can derail a whole career.

I'm happy to debate the pro's and cons of any of this with you but you act like a conspiracy theorist if someone doesn't see things your way.

Eddie said he was all about the fans and giving them what they wanted, that was what his business model was all about. That is the way he promoted Matchroom and gained a lot of support.  Now he is disregarding fan opinion and is putting on mismatch after mismatch and in his latest move he is charging PPV for a domestic card.  Eddie was the very man who said PPV is only for very special events that come around every couple of years.

Eddie is too clever for his own good. His PR and heavily orchestrated Twitter campaign are back firing on him.

Have you seen Mr R Slicker on Twitter? He's a parade of guys like yourself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RetweetMeEddie

Did you mean PARODY cos, to be honest lad, we generally haven't got a f*cking clue what you're talking about these days. We know it's some boring sh!t or other but it's so badly written we're at a loss to decipher the guff you're typing. Maybe if you stopped typing with your forehead, it might help!!!!!!!

So we've:

HYPPOCRACY/Hypocrisy
DESCENT/Dissent
PARADE/Parody

ANd Strongy wonders why we all think he's a fooking loon!!

Guys like me??? You mean someone that tries to enjoy the sport instead of finding fault at every single tiny opportunity.

'why has Brian Rose got a title shot'
'Why is Eddie sending x, y or z over to lose'
'None of the match's are 50, 50'
'Eddie stole my lunch money' etc etc etc, boo fookin hoo.

As for parody, you have become a complete parody of yourself and nobody takes you in the slightest bit seriously. As for your boxing knowledge, it's nothing compared to most of the posters on here, biggest difference is they don't need to try and force it onto people.

Start looking around at some of the positives in life and you might enjoy it a bit more.

WHO'S EDDIE HEARN? Is he in anyway related to Tommy Hearns? I've heard rumours about him only getting where he is because of his name, and I must admit, I think it's patently unfair that the sons of former boxers are now Promoters.

owen10ozzy wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Derbymanc wrote:Let's face it, i've never claimed to have the superior knowledge of yourself and onetwo.

We can also face that your obsession is slightly creepy and borders on stalkerish.

Eddie's a businessman and entitled to do what he thinks is best for his business and his employee's (not just his boxers,) If it works then he's done the right thing by him. If it doesn't then he'll have to try something else.

-I think Matchroom has been good for British boxing the last few years, we've got to see some good matchups and he's brought Froch to the masses.

-This PPV could be a big mistake as it has the potential to turn fans away when it could have been used as a big Saturday Fight Night show to bring more fans in.
Hd
-Until the whole of boxing changes (including us fans) we're going to continue to see mismatches as the dreaded loss can derail a whole career.

I'm happy to debate the pro's and cons of any of this with you but you act like a conspiracy theorist if someone doesn't see things your way.

Eddie said he was all about the fans and giving them what they wanted, that was what his business model was all about. That is the way he promoted Matchroom and gained a lot of support.  Now he is disregarding fan opinion and is putting on mismatch after mismatch and in his latest move he is charging PPV for a domestic card.  Eddie was the very man who said PPV is only for very special events that come around every couple of years.

Eddie is too clever for his own good. His PR and heavily orchestrated Twitter campaign are back firing on him.

Have you seen Mr R Slicker on Twitter? He's a parade of guys like yourself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RetweetMeEddie

Correct me if I'm wrong but he is giving the fans what they want....just because the mass of fans in this case are casual doesn't mean there not fans because they are. In fact, if were being honest they are now more important to boxing than us mere hardcore ones given were the ones who turn our noses up at every turn if we deem a card or fight unsuitable for our latest match-up craving. We can sit and argue the pitfalls of this till were blue in the face, the fact of the matter is that boxing is a niche sport...only given a certain amount of dates per year on the SKY platform of which Eddie has to attempt to make all of his fighters money and gain them exposure, take into mind that Matchroom don't actually receive any money from SKY in terms of cash...instead the production/staging/media etc costs are helped with.

Now of course it is Eddie's fault that he has so many fighters to find a payday for, after all he has decided to attempt a monopoly on British Boxing; however that is the business model he has chosen and he now has to make it work...even if it's at the expense of positive headlines amongst the twittersphere or sports forums of the world.

Personally I hope this PPV falls flat on it's face, if it does then it gives us proper fans some hope in the future that fights will be more 50/50 and cards on PPV will be of a higher standing. Should it be used as a stick to beat Eddie with...perhaps...but then weigh up the pro's and con's of having him in the sport and he still falls on the positive side for me.

As a fan what do I want from the sport;

Domestic Grudge Matches - Check (it is healthy for our domestic scene after all)
Olympic Stars/Promising Hopefuls on bills on a regular basis - Check
Brit's getting World title shots - Check
Long Time servants to the sport getting good pay days - Check

On all account's you can't argue that Hearn isn't delivering on these. Yes were going to have  PPV's we don't like from time to time...Yes there will be match up's that aren't 50/50 (shock horror...anyone would think this has never happened in all these years of boxing)... but none of that is any different to the past. It's always happened, will always happen. Can sit and moan and vent our fury about it all we like...nothing will change unless the masses stand up to it and that won't happen because the masses are no longer the hardcore fans and the casuals are happy to just enjoy it and pay for it for what it is....a night with the lads...in front of bit of fighting with some beers and grub. Sometimes it's best to just join them instead of cutting off our noses to spite our face.

Is that true? Sky pay nothing, and only partially fund production?

Spell checking is the panacea for the mediocre.

I type fast and free. I don't reread or edit my posts. First thought best thought, as the Beats used to say.

Ooh Panacea... you guys really are a wealth of knowledge.

Strongback wrote:Spell checking is the panacea for the mediocre.

I type fast and free. I don't reread or edit my posts. First thought best thought, as the Beats used to say.

Problem has been with the execution, not the thought (though the thought is generally pretty limp wristed itself).

TopHat24/7 wrote:

Strongback wrote:Spell checking is the panacea for the mediocre.

I type fast and free. I don't reread or edit my posts. First thought best thought, as the Beats used to say.

Problem has been with the execution, not the thought (though the thought is generally pretty limp wristed itself).

I'd be quite happy for you to make spelling mistakes if you actually said something mildly interesting.

Ayninhtg 'interesting' I siad wulod be lsot on you awanyy.

jimdig - In plenty of interviews where the subject of sky backing has come up, Eddie has often spoken of the 'backing' he receives from them. An extract below in an interview with Evening Standard:

''I don’t really want to be spending my own money on shows. We’re the only promoter with regular TV dates from a broadcaster. Our Sky platform leads to increased gates, increased sponsorship, so we don’t have to keep putting in money. I’d only have put money in if I was losing on shows. I’d rather be creating enough revenue streams to make [my boxing business] self sufficient, which it is now. If you are spending your own money funding shows, your business isn’t going to last very long. What Frank is trying to get at is that he’s investing in the fighters. We’re all investing in fighters but some of us are cleverer in getting other people to pay for that.”

There are more interviews which touch on it too; but essentially the shows themselves are put on by SKY...i.e. production, staging, media events etc. In return they take a percentage of all gate revenue as well as PPV sales when on that format. Add in the advertisement revenue and you'd imagine they are sitting rather pretty. That leaves fighter wages and venue hire as well as insurance costs for Eddie to cover...whatever is left would be profit for him/matchroom

Far from a ppv card but one of my mates is getting it so will probably go round and watch it as a few of the lads will be there so cheaper than anight out. Hopefully it flops in sales though and we don't get another ppv for a while.

Hearns not the devil but he can be a ninky nonk at times but which promoter is 100% a great person? There are better promoters in the world but no doubt there are a lot worse.

Hearn has got a point.........Think some people ought to give it a rest and get a more positive outlook....

A night's entertainment for the equivalent of a couple of cheapish bottles of wine isn't too bad value in all reality..

However I won't be buying it because If it's succesful it may set a precedent and I want Boxing to reach a wider audience.........Can only be good for kids and the casual fan to see good fighters performing at their art...

Also I bought the whole SKY package to watch events like this............

Agreed Truss regards positive outlook and needing to look at it as no more pricey than a night out on the tiles.

Regards setting a precedent, it's this type of fight which does reach a wider audience...perhaps not kids...but casual fans will lap this up which Eddie knows and it's why the fight is PPV. In general it's actually the hardcore fan who misses out on these events as they are the ones who turn their nose up to paying £15 feeling it is ripping them off.

If Bellew v Cleverly turned out to be FOTY and a few of the undercard fights were crackers also. Would people still say it wasn't worth the PPV money?

While I'm in no way saying its worthy of being on PPV I would rather have value for money from the product than a person deemed worthy of PPV?

So while obviously we all would prefer PPV to be done away with would people rather pay £15 to watch Clev v Bellew in a FOTY candidate or Mayweather v Lara during which most people would probably fall asleep before the end?

I think you're right and I'm wrong Owen.

Probably will be the hardcore fan............Easier to sell this card to the less demanding..

There's definitely something in that Owen.

I remember friends of mine who I'd never heard speak about boxing before ordered Froch Groves 2. Maybe for them, boxing is something they splash out on once in a while.

For me, I watch boxing quite regularly and am loathe to splash out on something I'm already paying a subscription for. That's the crux of it for me, £15 isn't a life changing amount of money but I do worry about the precedent it sets.

I'm not angry, just disappointed .

Less people will watch this, than if it was on regular Sky. Whether you are "hardcore" or "casual" there is no escaping that fact. So no, it wont be reaching a wider audience.

I'm not sure to be fair Catchweight, I usually watch PPV's in a pub or bar and even the old Magnificent 7's Frank put on got a good turn out, much better than any regular Sky show would. I think people see PPV and think oh it must be good then, but go to the pub to watch it (Even though it probably costs you more in the long run). I know my Hotel is paying for it as they see the potential of a lot of people coming to watch it, and they are paying hundreds to show it. Most pubs etc. will be paying a lot of dough to be showing it too, because for some reason a lot of the casuals come out when it's PPV. It is bloody cringe worthy when you hear some of them talking around you, but meh.

I would be sure. 100% sure.

I'll guarantee this pulls in more viewers on PPV than the first did which was on regular skysports. In fact I'll even wager a friendly bet if you want catchweight...

The first one was on box nation Owen, which for that fight was free to air. So I guess you're right it'll pull in more than the first did on sky sports

I would bet my last pound that if Bellew v Cleverly was shown on regular Sky Sports instead of PPV it would gather a larger viewership. PPV narrows the market.

It's been enjoyable reading this thread.

Thanks for response Owen.