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Season 7 Homepage IV
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2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Northampton Saints | 9 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 255 | 216 | 39 | 28 | 19 | 5 | 1 | 38 | |
2 | Sale Sharks * | 9 | 7 | 0 | 2 | 253 | 227 | 26 | 29 | 21 | 3 | 2 | 32 | |
3 | Harlequins * | 9 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 254 | 230 | 24 | 27 | 22 | 2 | 2 | 27 | |
4 | Bath Rugby * | 9 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 242 | 227 | 15 | 25 | 23 | 1 | 3 | 24 | |
5 | London Wasps * | 9 | 5 | 1 | 3 | 241 | 236 | 5 | 24 | 25 | 1 | 2 | 24 | |
6 | Leicester Tigers | 9 | 5 | 0 | 4 | 215 | 215 | 0 | 18 | 19 | 0 | 4 | 24 | |
7 | Exeter Chiefs * | 9 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 220 | 224 | -4 | 19 | 20 | 0 | 2 | 21 | |
8 | Saracens | 9 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 216 | 233 | -17 | 20 | 20 | 0 | 5 | 19 | |
9 | Gloucester | 9 | 3 | 0 | 6 | 226 | 233 | -7 | 20 | 21 | 0 | 5 | 17 | |
10 | London Welsh | 9 | 3 | 0 | 6 | 215 | 234 | -19 | 19 | 24 | 0 | 4 | 16 | |
11 | Newcastle Falcons * | 9 | 1 | 1 | 7 | 207 | 241 | -34 | 17 | 22 | 0 | 6 | 11 | |
12 | London Irish | 9 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 215 | 247 | -30 | 19 | 25 | 0 | 6 | 10 |
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Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Open Window
Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.
The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Pretty sure he started 6 and shifted to centre. Really unsure on Burgess, being good at RL doesn't mean anything really.
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IBM TryTracker predicts England need to win at least 27% of their own scrums with a penalty, average at least 5.8 metres per carry and force at least 16 or more turnovers if they are to defeat Australia tomorrow.
Analyse the keys to the game here: http://ow.ly/F1E73
This is the sort of Love sacks that Lancaster relies on and is why we see no instinctive play or heads up rugby. Utter gash!!!
Analyse the keys to the game here: http://ow.ly/F1E73
This is the sort of Love sacks that Lancaster relies on and is why we see no instinctive play or heads up rugby. Utter gash!!!
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What a crazy way of looking at things
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Healy wrote a good piece in the Telegraph today Pete saying very similar - where on earth is the creativity in our backline, when we secure so much excellent set piece ball it is so disappointing what happens after that - if the coaches cant see Barritt stops moves at no13 then they should all be sacked.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Pretty sure he started 6 and shifted to centre. Really unsure on Burgess, being good at RL doesn't mean anything really.
That is the worst thing i'v ever heard.
Once you take the rucks and scrums out of things , It's the same attacking patterns and defence systems? Shaun Edwards is one of the best defence coaches in the world and stopped playing Union when he has 15 to concentrate on RL.
I think Burgess will be a sucess , He's skill set is top doller and he's a wrecking ball with the ball.
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dammit_chris wrote:Healy wrote a good piece in the Telegraph today Pete saying very similar - where on earth is the creativity in our backline, when we secure so much excellent set piece ball it is so disappointing what happens after that - if the coaches cant see Barritt stops moves at no13 then they should all be sacked.
It just looks so pre-planned. England remind me of Falcons, there's little invention or anybody (bar Sinoti) who can do something different.
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Would be great if Burgess does gel in union as we are desperate for someone to take that no12 shirt. He has all the attributes to be a success, every interview you read about him has people praising his work ethic, leadership and other qualities that you need in addition to his playing ability.
Don't get why we don't play Burrell in the meantime though.
Don't get why we don't play Burrell in the meantime though.
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Who do people see as the man to replace SL? I think he's stagmated a bit and needs a win this weekend if he's serious about winning the world rugby world cup
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Kane Thomson finnally in a Falcons jersey this weekend
Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks 30th November 2014 – KO 15:15
15 Alex Tait 14 Sinoti Sinoti 13 Gonzalo Tiesi 12 Juan Pablo Socino 11 Alesana Tuilagi 10 Rory Clegg 9 Mike Blair
1 Rob Vickers 2 George McGuigan 3 Oliver Tomaszczyk 4 Calum Green 5 Dom Barrow 6 Mark Wilson 7 Andy Saull 8 Ally Hogg
Replacements 16 Alex Rogers 17 Eric Fry 18 Scott Wilson 19 Kane Thompson 20 Josh Furno 21 Warren Fury 22 Adam Powell 23 Simon Hammersley
Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks 30th November 2014 – KO 15:15
15 Alex Tait 14 Sinoti Sinoti 13 Gonzalo Tiesi 12 Juan Pablo Socino 11 Alesana Tuilagi 10 Rory Clegg 9 Mike Blair
1 Rob Vickers 2 George McGuigan 3 Oliver Tomaszczyk 4 Calum Green 5 Dom Barrow 6 Mark Wilson 7 Andy Saull 8 Ally Hogg
Replacements 16 Alex Rogers 17 Eric Fry 18 Scott Wilson 19 Kane Thompson 20 Josh Furno 21 Warren Fury 22 Adam Powell 23 Simon Hammersley
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You love your stats. Thought this would be up your streetSgt_Pooly wrote:What a crazy way of looking at things
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If I was Burrell I would be seriously hacked off. Been the most consistent EQ 12 in the AP for the past 18 months and forced to play 13 for England then overlooked so that Farrell (a 10) and Twelvetrees (not international standard) can have a go in the jersey.
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Jake white 100% should never have appointed lancaster who is essentially a school sports masterDriver wrote:Who do people see as the man to replace SL? I think he's stagmated a bit and needs a win this weekend if he's serious about winning the world rugby world cup
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It's ludicrous. Square pegs in round holes. Play him 12Ozzy3213 wrote:If I was Burrell I would be seriously hacked off. Been the most consistent EQ 12 in the AP for the past 18 months and forced to play 13 for England then overlooked so that Farrell (a 10) and Twelvetrees (not international standard) can have a go in the jersey.
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I agree Pooly, is very pre-planned, it is like they've been told not to be creative and take risks - I think that is why May struggled at the start as he looked like he wanted to take a risk or make a break on the outside and then you see him hesitate. That try against NZ and he's a different player.
The team is crying out for a spark in midfield - Lancasters selections are bizarre in the midfield, we still seem to try and play a game where we limit the other teams scoring chances and hope we just about beat them instead of going out trying to win on the try front.
So frustrating to watch as I can't see any other structures that we are trying to play - Ford could change that, as the way he mixes up his game is excellent but just what can a fly half do with an out of form Twelvetrees and Barritt out of position.
The team is crying out for a spark in midfield - Lancasters selections are bizarre in the midfield, we still seem to try and play a game where we limit the other teams scoring chances and hope we just about beat them instead of going out trying to win on the try front.
So frustrating to watch as I can't see any other structures that we are trying to play - Ford could change that, as the way he mixes up his game is excellent but just what can a fly half do with an out of form Twelvetrees and Barritt out of position.
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Glad I'll be at work tomorrow so won't get to see the game. Will record it and will only watch it if reports are positive. I can't sit through another 80 minutes of dross like I did last weekend!
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Driver wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote:Pretty sure he started 6 and shifted to centre. Really unsure on Burgess, being good at RL doesn't mean anything really.
That is the worst thing i'v ever heard.
Once you take the rucks and scrums out of things , It's the same attacking patterns and defence systems? Shaun Edwards is one of the best defence coaches in the world and stopped playing Union when he has 15 to concentrate on RL.
I think Burgess will be a sucess , He's skill set is top doller and he's a wrecking ball with the ball.
It's not the same attacking or defensive patterns at all.
As a RL defender I know for 4 tackles the opposition isn't going to kick, it's a flat defensive line with the focus on the runner.
Rucks, scrums, line outs are a HUGE difference, theres no need to secure the ball in RL, it's on a plate.
The only similarities in RU & RL are you pass a rugby ball, run and tackle (occasionally kick). The actual tactics and a million miles away, they are completely different sports and being good at one doesn't mean squat with regards to the other,
RL is one of the easiest games to play, you can teach somebody it in an hr to a decent standard. If they're a physical unit there's a fair chance they may become quite handy at it. This is not the case in RU at all.
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Twelvetrees the most frustrating player going, as he has all the attributes to be very good and I thought had a great cameo last weekend - but his decision making lets him down and makes a lot of unforced errors and I cant see that ever leaving his game.
Sad thing really is that our main backmove has been give the ball to Tuilagi and let him rip it up - don't get why Joseph hasn't been given a go - I'd even take Daly there if he wasn't swearing at refs!
Sad thing really is that our main backmove has been give the ball to Tuilagi and let him rip it up - don't get why Joseph hasn't been given a go - I'd even take Daly there if he wasn't swearing at refs!
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I'll be at West Hartlepool TDSOB vs Seaton Carew IIs instead , I hope that ends up a better game.
I think we need a foreign coach to take England forward and change the way we think about rugby.
At grassroots the RDO coaching is all about tempo and wide expansive rugby.
I think we need a foreign coach to take England forward and change the way we think about rugby.
At grassroots the RDO coaching is all about tempo and wide expansive rugby.
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I must admit I quite like Twelvetrees. He gets a knocking on here but he's a good player, I'd happily have Manu/Burrell/36 as our midfield trio, rotating through.
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At no12 it is quite easy to transfer the attacking and defensive skills, other positions I'd agree with you Pooly, but the way the modern game has been going it is probably the easiest area to transfer skills across, as you aren't really dealing with kicks and most defence coaches these days are from league, like Mike Ford at Bath, Andy Farrell for England.
No13 would be very different though - think that has become the hardest position in the game defensively.
No13 would be very different though - think that has become the hardest position in the game defensively.
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While you can't really knock Lancaster for the job he came in and pretty much got rid of a bad culture within the England team, he hasn't got the experience to move us on beyond where we've reached and I'd argue Catt and Farrell are the same.
Lancaster needs experienced heads around him, but I'm not sure he can take us up the next level - when we beat NZ I thought we had finally realised attacking is the best way to beat the big teams but we haven't tried to do that since.
Lancaster needs experienced heads around him, but I'm not sure he can take us up the next level - when we beat NZ I thought we had finally realised attacking is the best way to beat the big teams but we haven't tried to do that since.
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An In 12 needs to be able to kick these days.
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Depends - Fofana hasn't got the best kicking game but is world class, but has a different skill set that gives teams an exit strategy.
England are lucky to have Mike Brown who has got a great boot, but we don't bring him in enough.
If everyone was on form and Burgess clicked I'd love to see an England backline of Youngs, Ford, Watson, Burgess, Tuilagi, May and Brown. The midfield would suck in so many defenders and the space for Youngs, Watson, Ford, May and Brown would be huge! Might be being a little too optimistic with Burgess!
England are lucky to have Mike Brown who has got a great boot, but we don't bring him in enough.
If everyone was on form and Burgess clicked I'd love to see an England backline of Youngs, Ford, Watson, Burgess, Tuilagi, May and Brown. The midfield would suck in so many defenders and the space for Youngs, Watson, Ford, May and Brown would be huge! Might be being a little too optimistic with Burgess!
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No idea how Burgess will develop but I'd be against 2 bosh merchants in midfield personally.
Fofana can kick it though, I've see it.
Fofana can kick it though, I've see it.
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Burgess and JJ in midfield? Perhaps Eastmond or Lowe if he can stay fit?
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Chris might cream his pants, as on a second thought Daly could fit in a combo with Burgess
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why not Eastmond?
In the structured style of play atm, he is the only one that has carried the ball towards a defence and worried/looked to break the line.
In the structured style of play atm, he is the only one that has carried the ball towards a defence and worried/looked to break the line.
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I have issues with Eastmond at the top level Flux, I've seen enough to know he's not good enough.
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I would agree with you there pooly.
As for Lowe I would say he is probably one of the poorest players to he an england cap.
Very unremarkable.
Fact is we need someone to emerge. All talk of Sam hill devoto and slade seems the have gone quiet
As for Lowe I would say he is probably one of the poorest players to he an england cap.
Very unremarkable.
Fact is we need someone to emerge. All talk of Sam hill devoto and slade seems the have gone quiet
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Burgess only covering backs tonight but may pack down in scrum for set moves.
Is it televised ?
“It is a bonus that Sam is starting early,” Lancaster said of Burgess, who will cover the back-line positions on Friday night. “He was been watching a lot of union and the next step was for him to have a crack at it.
Is it televised ?
“It is a bonus that Sam is starting early,” Lancaster said of Burgess, who will cover the back-line positions on Friday night. “He was been watching a lot of union and the next step was for him to have a crack at it.
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Yea it's on TV, 1945ko.
I really rate Lowe, I think he's a cracking player.
I really rate Lowe, I think he's a cracking player.
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Don't get Lowe. Find him so average. Ok defender not that quick ok hands and not a great kicker despite playing a lot of back 3 originally.
What do you see in him?
One of those players i simply do not get. Faletau another of those players I fail to see the point of
What do you see in him?
One of those players i simply do not get. Faletau another of those players I fail to see the point of
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You used to rate Faletau??
Lowe is a great defender, really quick, good step and good all round game. I really like him, I'd have him in the England set up fully fit.
Lowe is a great defender, really quick, good step and good all round game. I really like him, I'd have him in the England set up fully fit.
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Faletau started his career well. Burst on the scene but has not developed and has been found out. He is very small for an 8 but does not have that subtlety that the good smaller 8s have.
I would put that down to him being a bit of a thicko. Know quite a few lads who play for regions in wales and they all say he is a bit of a dim wit.
He has added zero to his game and has become ineffective. I would say he is comfortably the worst 8 of the home nations teams. With heaslip in magical form, Ashe a real prospect and both Morgan and billy v better players.
Not a big carrier and does not work in That Welsh backrow which is crying out for a big carrier
I would put that down to him being a bit of a thicko. Know quite a few lads who play for regions in wales and they all say he is a bit of a dim wit.
He has added zero to his game and has become ineffective. I would say he is comfortably the worst 8 of the home nations teams. With heaslip in magical form, Ashe a real prospect and both Morgan and billy v better players.
Not a big carrier and does not work in That Welsh backrow which is crying out for a big carrier
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Can't agree with any of that, Faletau is much better than Heaslip/Ashe imo. I do think he's a bit out of form mind.
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I know you don't rate heaslip but surely you can see how good he has been this year.
His best season ever been great for leinster and fantastic in the AI's
His best season ever been great for leinster and fantastic in the AI's
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I don't think he's been that good for Ireland, his Leinster form is rarely in question though.
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Joseph has been fantastic.
Quins scrum is getting mullered. 4 pens in 30mins so far for Bath.
Quins scrum is getting mullered. 4 pens in 30mins so far for Bath.
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Auterac has put 2 Quins TH's in the bin, they're down to 12 men! Such a scrum dominance.
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Driver wrote:Who do people see as the man to replace SL? I think he's stagmated a bit and needs a win this weekend if he's serious about winning the world rugby world cup
I'm getting hacked off, not sure who is better though
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Deano!
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anonmattyt wrote:Don't get Lowe. Find him so average. Ok defender not that quick ok hands and not a great kicker despite playing a lot of back 3 originally.
What do you see in him?
One of those players i simply do not get. Faletau another of those players I fail to see the point of
Most people don't get Lowe as he isn't flashy but he's actually very very quick, has very solid defence and very good hands. Quins best centre by absolutely miles and you can see how much better we've played with him in yhe team this season (/worse we've played without him )
You say he has no real strengths. I'd say he has no weaknesses
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:I don't think he's been that good for Ireland, his Leinster form is rarely in question though.
you are possibly the only person on the planet with that opinion.
How did Burgess do ? Had to go to a rugby dinner last night ?
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In my view He is a decent club level player and no more for me CJ.ChequeredJersey wrote:anonmattyt wrote:Don't get Lowe. Find him so average. Ok defender not that quick ok hands and not a great kicker despite playing a lot of back 3 originally.
What do you see in him?
One of those players i simply do not get. Faletau another of those players I fail to see the point of
Most people don't get Lowe as he isn't flashy but he's actually very very quick, has very solid defence and very good hands. Quins best centre by absolutely miles and you can see how much better we've played with him in yhe team this season (/worse we've played without him )
You say he has no real strengths. I'd say he has no weaknesses
To play 13 internationally you need a lot more than he will ever have. He is miles behind trinder who is never an international player but trinder is someone who has more international qualities like pace and power.
He has a similar injury record to trinder though
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Lowe well ahead of Trinder for my money.
JJ the best 13 option we have after Manu and possibly Burrell.
JJ the best 13 option we have after Manu and possibly Burrell.
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When he is in form that is. When he's good he's great when he's bad he's horrid.
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anonmattyt wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote:I don't think he's been that good for Ireland, his Leinster form is rarely in question though.
you are possibly the only person on the planet with that opinion.
How did Burgess do ? Had to go to a rugby dinner last night ?
I don't think he's played well for Ireland for years, he's just not a good Int player imo.
Burgess made 3 carries, each getting got tackled on the gainline. He threw a offload to nobody and cleared a ruck especially well. He pretty much looked lost, not really knowing where to stand and what to do. It could be long learning curve.
Lowe is a much better player than Trinder for me.
I'd agree Steve, JJ was fantastic again last night.
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Always going to be a slow debut.Sgt_Pooly wrote:anonmattyt wrote:Sgt_Pooly wrote:I don't think he's been that good for Ireland, his Leinster form is rarely in question though.
you are possibly the only person on the planet with that opinion.
How did Burgess do ? Had to go to a rugby dinner last night ?
I don't think he's played well for Ireland for years, he's just not a good Int player imo.
Burgess made 3 carries, each getting got tackled on the gainline. He threw a offload to nobody and cleared a ruck especially well. He pretty much looked lost, not really knowing where to stand and what to do. It could be long learning curve.
Lowe is a much better player than Trinder for me.
I'd agree Steve, JJ was fantastic again last night.
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His first carry it took 3 blokes to stop him and Nick Evans jumped out the way?
His offload Eastmond calls the pass then stops his run. Nothing he could do about that.
Went steady , shows a lot of potential
His offload Eastmond calls the pass then stops his run. Nothing he could do about that.
Went steady , shows a lot of potential
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