Brazilian GP Thread - Spoilers ahead so take your chances at your own risk

[Fernando]

Standard procedure no abusing or be put on the naughty step for Abu Dhabi

Under normal circumstances, Lewis Hamilton's 24-point lead would leave him on the brink of securing his second drivers' championship heading in to this weekend's Brazilian Grand Prix, but this is not a normal season. Hamilton has been in scintillating form as he has reeled off five victories in a row, but the championship will be decided in Abu Dhabi thanks to the double points on offer, with Hamilton only able to open up a 49-point lead if he wins in Brazil and Nico Rosberg fails to score. Rosberg needs to outscore his team-mate in order to negate any notion of a potential title win being tainted by the rules, with even Toto Wolff admitting it could “overshadow” the season. While the championship is the focus at Mercedes, those further down the grid head to Sao Paulo keen to build on the momentum they have gathered in trying to make F1 more financially fair. With the futures of three world champions also still to be confirmed, it's going to be a busy weekend on and off track.

2013 race
Last year the title race was well and truly finished, with the main focus on F1 bidding farewell to Mark Webber while Felipe Massa took part in his final race for Ferrari. After the drama of 2012, this is a relatively boring race in Brazilian GP terms, with Sebastian Vettel taking pole position and duly converting to take a record breaking ninth consecutive grand prix victory in the same season. Rosberg actually got the jump in to Turn 1 but Vettel was back ahead on lap 2 and eased away, with Webber slotting in to second after having the pace to hold off Fernando Alonso, who completed the podium. Massa's day was ruined by a drive through penalty which dropped him from fourth to seventh, also costing Ferrari second in the constructors' championship as Hamilton limped home ninth after contact with Valtteri Bottas.

Most successful driver at Interlagos: Michael Schumacher (4 wins)
Most successful team at Interlagos: Ferrari, McLaren (8 wins)*
*Indicates both the 8km and current track layouts

2014 session times All times local

FP1: 1000 – 1130
FP2: 1400 – 1530
FP3: 1100 – 1200
Qualifying: 1400
Race: 1400

Track information

Lewis Hamilton:

You start the lap absolutely flat out into the low-grip Turn One. The corner really falls away from you quite steeply here and it's so easy to lock up, but you need to make sure to get a really tight exit to enable you to be flat through Turns Two and Three. Positioning is crucial to carrying good speed through these two corners, as you're then into the first DRS straight and one of the best overtaking opportunities around the circuit at Turn Four.

You can brake really late for this corner - way after the 100m line and closer to the 50m line - so you need to take as much speed as possible on the way in. You then take a little bit of the kerb on exit and run flat out through Turn Five, all the way up to Turn Six. Again, this is a corner where you can carry so much speed on entry - trying to just clip the apex and doing the same through Turn Seven and hanging the car out wide for the entry to Turn Eight.

Along with Turn Nine, this really does require you to use absolutely all of the kerb for the best line and is really tricky to get right. Turn Ten is next, which is really low grip and just seems to last forever. There's so little traction but you have to find it as best you can, as you're then flat out down the hill through Turn 11, where the car is constantly trying to step out on you.

Braking into Turn 12, the final corner in effect, is tough. Your tyres are so hot from the stop / start, high braking nature of the middle sector that the rear end can fishtail into here and it's easy to overrun the corner. You have to keep up your minimum speed, though, as the lap ends with a flat-out run up the hill and across the line, where keeping the steering as straight and smooth as possible is crucial. It's a long run and with the DRS zone included, this is the best chance to make an overtake stick.

Weather

Interlagos is famed for its unpredictable weather, with warm, sunny conditions able to turn in to thunderous downpours in an instant. Well, guess what? This weekend is no different. The current forecast is for thunderstorms throughout the weekend, with wet weather predicted on all three days of running. At present, Sunday has the lowest risk of rain at 80%, but there's never any guarantee that the rain will hit the track. However, 2013 showed that threatening dark clouds will always make pit walls nervy.

Prediction

Hamilton's run of form shows no sign of coming to an end, but Rosberg's pole position and early lead in Austin shows he won't go down without a fight. The forecast wet conditions have the potential to make the race more of a lottery, but the two Mercedes drivers are unlikely to be seriously challenged as the long run up to the start line requires strong engine performance. Expecting another shootout between the two title contenders, Interlagos has not been kind to Hamilton – even when he won the title here – as he boasts just one third place from seven races. His run of form has to come to an end at some point and we're going to tip Rosberg to make the most of a tricky weekend to cut the gap in the title race.

Source: Crash.net

[dyrewolfe]

Quite looking forward to this one. Interlagos usually throws up interesting races - more due to the unpredictable weather, as its not hugely conducive to overtaking IMO.

Hope it will be as enjoyable as the USGP. Interesting tidbit about Hamilton's form / results. Wonder if this will be an opportunity for Nico to claw some points back?

*comments regarding the state of finances in F1 removed - now moved to a new thread*

[GSC]

In fairness though, take Ferrari out of F1 and everyone would lose a significant chunk..

[dyrewolfe]

Probably not as big as you think...even allowing for Ferrari's famously large fanbase.

And even so, thats an obscene amount of money for a team who are not exactly short of resources. I'm pretty sure losing that £56m woulnd't really hurt them, whereas it would be 2-3 seasons' worth of prize money for some of the smaller teams.

Is it any wonder new (and even mid-grid) teams struggle to compete when the financial rewards are so heavily weighted towards the top 5?

[CaledonianCraig]

Spot on dyrewolfe.

I won't say anymore on here as believe it should merit a seperate thread and this be left for the Brazil GP.

[dyrewolfe]

Good point - I'll take it out and make a separate thread...

[Fernando]

https://www.606v2.com/t55954p150-debate-on-f1-payments < Just changed the title of the Russian Gp Thread so just continue there lads

[dyrewolfe]

Aww - I just went and made a new thread Fernando!

[Fernando]

don't worry just changed the title back

[Guest]

Nice shiny new pit entry at Interlagos

http://t.co/mbzSalQvRP

[GSC]

Ferrari are the ones with leverage mind. An F1 without its most marketable asset would probably see a sizable drop

[dyrewolfe]

Nice shiny new pit entry at Interlagos

http://t.co/mbzSalQvRP

Well, it looks nice but I'm sure the drivers won't be very keen on it, with that big chicane added to slow things down.

I quite liked the way they could bomb onto the main straight at full pelt and just jink into the pit lane...a lot quicker and neater.

[GSC]

Probably unsafe since everyone could cut the pit lane entry without penalty

[dyrewolfe]

Well, the drivers did cut the pit lane entry quite regularly IIRC, but I can't think of any accidents resulting from that.

I just think they made the new design unneccessarily long and awkward. If they had to do it, a gentle, sweeping turn would have been easier and quicker to navigate.

[Fernando]

Nico Rosberg beat Mercedes team-mate and title rival Lewis Hamilton to set the pace in first practice at the Brazilian Grand Prix.

The German was 0.221 seconds quicker than Hamilton and nearly a second clear of the field, which was led by Toro Rosso's Daniil Kvyat in third place.

During the session news broke that the Marussia team has ceased trading.
Toro Rosso's Max Verstappen, who is making his grand prix debut next year at the age of 17, was sixth
.
The impressive Dutchman was as high as third at one point in what was his third outing in practice in preparation for next season.

Ferrari's Fernando Alonso was fourth ahead of Williams's Felipe Massa.


Driver Car Team Fastest Lap
1 Nico Rosberg 6 Mercedes 1:12.764
2 Lewis Hamilton 44 Mercedes 1:12.985
3 Daniil Kvyat 26 Toro Rosso 1:13.723
4 Fernando Alonso 14 Ferrari 1:13.742
5 Felipe Massa 19 Williams 1:13.811
6 Max Verstappen 25 Toro Rosso 1:13.827
7 Pastor Maldonado 13 Lotus 1:14.034
8 Kimi Raikkonen 7 Ferrari 1:14.114
9 Kevin Magnussen 20 McLaren 1:14.136
10 Daniel Ricciardo 3 Red Bull 1:14.197
11 Adrian Sutil 99 Sauber 1:14.434
12 Felipe Nasr 77 Williams 1:14.522
13 Nico Hulkenberg 27 Force India 1:14.678
14 Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull 1:14.902
15 Romain Grosjean 8 Lotus 1:15.109
16 Daniel Juncadella 11 Force India 1:16.030
17 Jenson Button 22 McLaren No time
18 Esteban Gutierrez 21 Sauber No time

[Fernando]

Second Practice
Interlagos, Friday 7 November 2014

Driver Car Team Fastest Lap
1 Nico Rosberg 6 Mercedes 1:12.123
2 Lewis Hamilton 44 Mercedes 1:12.336
3 Kimi Raikkonen 7 Ferrari 1:12.696
4 Daniel Ricciardo 3 Red Bull 1:12.956
5 Valtteri Bottas 77 Williams 1:13.035
6 Felipe Massa 19 Williams 1:13.099
7 Fernando Alonso 14 Ferrari 1:13.122
8 Daniil Kvyat 26 Toro Rosso 1:13.254
9 Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull 1:13.333
10 Kevin Magnussen 20 McLaren 1:13.479
11 Pastor Maldonado 13 Lotus 1:13.497
12 Romain Grosjean 8 Lotus 1:13.714
13 Nico Hulkenberg 27 Force India 1:13.882
14 Esteban Gutierrez 21 Sauber 1:13.902
15 Adrian Sutil 99 Sauber 1:14.204
16 Jenson Button 22 McLaren 1:14.209
17 Jean-Eric Vergne 25 Toro Rosso 1:17.171
18 Sergio Perez 11 Force India No time

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Third Practice
Interlagos, Saturday 8 November 2014

Driver Car Team Fastest Lap
1 Nico Rosberg 6 Mercedes 1:10.446
2 Lewis Hamilton 44 Mercedes 1:10.560
3 Felipe Massa 19 Williams 1:10.875
4 Valtteri Bottas 77 Williams 1:11.054
5 Daniel Ricciardo 3 Red Bull 1:11.188
6 Jenson Button 22 McLaren 1:11.210
7 Kimi Raikkonen 7 Ferrari 1:11.316
8 Fernando Alonso 14 Ferrari 1:11.399
9 Kevin Magnussen 20 McLaren 1:11.499
10 Daniil Kvyat 26 Toro Rosso 1:11.834
11 Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull 1:11.967
12 Pastor Maldonado 13 Lotus 1:12.069
13 Adrian Sutil 99 Sauber 1:12.184
14 Romain Grosjean 8 Lotus 1:12.235
15 Jean-Eric Vergne 25 Toro Rosso 1:12.235
16 Esteban Gutierrez 21 Sauber 1:12.286
17 Nico Hulkenberg 27 Force India 1:12.324
18 Sergio Perez 11 Force India 1:12.942

[Fernando]

A thrilling end to qualifying with Hamilton going P1, but Rosberg quicly responding and snatching pole position. The Williams duo of Massa and Bottas make up the second row on the grid.

Pos. No. Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1 6 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:10.347 1:10.303 1:10.023 14
2 44 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:10.457 1:10.712 1:10.056 14
3 19 Felipe Massa Williams 1:10.602 1:10.343 1:10.247 17
4 77 Valtteri Bottas Williams 1:10.832 1:10.421 1:10.305 17
5 22 Jenson Button McLaren 1:11.097 1:11.127 1:10.930 16
6 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:11.880 1:11.129 1:10.938 19
7 20 Kevin Magnussen McLaren 1:11.134 1:11.211 1:10.969 16
8 14 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:11.558 1:11.215 1:10.977 18
9 3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull 1:11.593 1:11.208 1:11.075 20
10 7 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari 1:11.193 1:11.188 1:11.099 18
11 21 Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 1:11.520 1:11.591 18
12 27 Nico Hulkenberg Force India 1:11.848 1:11.976 14
13 99 Adrian Sutil Sauber 1:11.943 1:12.099 17
14 26 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosoo 1:11.423 9
15 8 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:12.037 8
16 25 Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1:12.040 10
17 11 Sergio Perez Force India 1:12.076 9
18 13 Pastor Maldonado Lotus 1:12.223 7

[Guest]

Nico just did enough for pole & wrapped up the qualifying trophy (for what it's worth)

Williams are massively quick on the run up the hill, so with DRS, Lewis & Nico will have to be careful in & around the start & opening laps. If the Mercedes' do pull away, I'm sure it will be the same tactics from Lewis, hang back in the first stint & then 'Hammer Time' at the beginning of the second stint & see what happens. Then there is the weather ? which adds something else to the picture. Hope Button can out-do Magnussen tomorrow as well.

[Gerry SA]

Sky Sports comparing the legendary Aryton Senna with the average Lewis Hamilton...pathetic.

[Fernando]

Should be an easy day ahead for Lewis. 2nd usually the best place start in Brazil as seen last year when Nico went past Sebedee

[CaledonianCraig]

A second place finish for Hamilton wouldn't be a disaster in normal circumstances but we know the final race this year is abnormal due to double points.

[Fernando]

He will be fine. If finishes 2nd here at a minimum needs 2nd in Abu Dhabi so would have to be mistake free. Still closing in on Nico so far so it'll be fine, If he has an issue here blame Massa who wanted the softer tyres

[Guest]

Hamilton doesn't do second, game on here

[Fernando]

If he has any sense he'd settle for 2nd honestly John considering that's all he needs to wrap up the title in Abu Dhabi even if he wins it won't change anything for Abu Dhabi lets face it unless something goes wrong it's a merc 1-2 there so why give Nico the chance to close a gap on him like Lewis has done to Nico all season.

It's that or back off a few laps out the turbulent air and go for it a few laps from the end.

[Fernando]

Nico takes Victory in Brazil with Lewis 2nd & 3rd Massa despite all he's issues. Button 4th & Vettel 5th.

[CaledonianCraig]

Rosberg holds on to win but would hardly say it was convincing. Hamilton second and good race from Massa to finish third. In fourth Button and if it were me at McLaren I'd opt for him over Magnusson any day for next year.

[Gerry SA]

Magnificent weekend for Rosberg. Quickest in all three practice sessions. Pole position and the win. 

Know hoping Hamilton gets a mechanical in Abu dhabi

[Guest]

Yeah, we get your hate for Hamilton, don't continually bore us with your pathetic posts. Rosberg did well but Hamilton still deserves the title with 10 wins to 5. Rosberg was quickest all weekend & in the practice sessions, but Hamilton has done that all season to Rosberg. Another great drive from Button, showing he's still got the hunger & game for the sport.

[Gerry SA]

Yeah, we get your hate for Hamilton, don't continually bore us with your pathetic posts. Rosberg did well but Hamilton still deserves the title with 10 wins to 5. Rosberg was quickest all weekend & in the practice sessions, but Hamilton has done that all season to Rosberg. Another great drive from Button, showing he's still got the hunger & game for the sport.

Hamilton bottled it today. Spinning under no pressure. 

As for Hamilton 'deserving' the title. No one deserves anything in life. You earn it. not deserve it. 

Let's see Hamilton crumble in Abu Dhabi.

[Guest]

Hamilton made the mistake but Rosberg has bottled it on many occassions this season. Mistakes in Spa, Monza, Austin & Sochi, let's not forget them shall we Gerry, like you do. Of course Hamilton deserves he title & has earnt it, he's won double the amount of races & is leading the championship. He's outdriven Nico without question.

You keep posting on here & boring us with your anti Hamilton campaign. After that, go on Twitter, find a ridiculous rumour & then post it on the football section & bore us some more.

[Guest]

Sky Sports comparing the legendary Aryton Senna with the average Lewis Hamilton...pathetic.

It's a British media channel your watching, what do you expect? The German F1 channels were comparing Vettel to Schumacher for years, it's what they do. Your the pathetic one for letting it get to you & having to resort to posting on here about it.

[CaledonianCraig]

And incidentally Vettel did not finish above Ricciardo in the title race Gerry as you were so certain he would. I cannot recall a four times world champion getting so handsomely beaten by virtual rookie team-mate.

[Guest]

Also Gerry, what are you on about Hamilton spinning under 'no pressure'? Pressure isn't just about someone up your gearbox, it's about making purple sectors on heavily worn tyres, in an attempt to pass your teammate in the impending pit stop. If your comparing mistakes of both Mercedes drivers, as John correctly stated, it heavily weighs towards Rosberg over the whole season on Sunday's.

Really looking forward to Abu Dhabi though now.

[Gerry SA]

Hamilton made the mistake but Rosberg has bottled it on many occassions this season. Mistakes in Spa, Monza, Austin & Sochi, let's not forget them shall we Gerry, like you do. Of course Hamilton deserves he title & has earnt it, he's won double the amount of races & is leading the championship. He's outdriven Nico without question.

You keep posting on here & boring us with your anti Hamilton campaign. After that, go on Twitter, find a ridiculous rumour & then post it on the football section & bore us some more.

Stick to living off your benefits pal...

[Gerry SA]

Also Gerry, what are you on about Hamilton spinning under 'no pressure'? Pressure isn't just about someone up your gearbox, it's about making purple sectors on heavily worn tyres, in an attempt to pass your teammate in the impending pit stop. If your comparing mistakes of both Mercedes drivers, as John correctly stated, it heavily weighs towards Rosberg over the whole season on Sunday's.

Really looking forward to Abu Dhabi though now.

Congratulations Craig. Daniel beat Sebastian. What do you want a pint as your prize? I doubt Sebastian is crying into his pillow too much, as he actually congratulated Daniel on beating him.

[Gerry SA]

Hamilton made the mistake but Rosberg has bottled it on many occassions this season. Mistakes in Spa, Monza, Austin & Sochi, let's not forget them shall we Gerry, like you do. Of course Hamilton deserves he title & has earnt it, he's won double the amount of races & is leading the championship. He's outdriven Nico without question.

You keep posting on here & boring us with your anti Hamilton campaign. After that, go on Twitter, find a ridiculous rumour & then post it on the football section & bore us some more.

Nico bottled it in Spa? Nah pal. He finished the race in second place. 

Monza and Sochi, yeah Nico threw away potential wins. 

Austin was the worst of the lot...

[Guest]

It was a mistake in Spa, he just fluffed it completely up & got lucky, Gerry.

In Abu Dhabi, if Mercedes are leading, it might need another Spa incident for Nico to snatch this. If they are running 1-2 & Nico in the lead, Nico might need to slow down, create an incident, try & puncture Lewis & just hope he can carry on & win.

[CaledonianCraig]

Also Gerry, what are you on about Hamilton spinning under 'no pressure'? Pressure isn't just about someone up your gearbox, it's about making purple sectors on heavily worn tyres, in an attempt to pass your teammate in the impending pit stop. If your comparing mistakes of both Mercedes drivers, as John correctly stated, it heavily weighs towards Rosberg over the whole season on Sunday's.

Really looking forward to Abu Dhabi though now.

Congratulations Craig. Daniel beat Sebastian. What do you want a pint as your prize? I doubt Sebastian is crying into his pillow too much, as he actually congratulated Daniel on beating him.

Nope no prize but it reinforces peoples beliefs that Vettel was so dominant because A. He had the best car by some way B. His only viable opponent (Webber) was a lightweight by F1 standards.

[Gerry SA]

It was a mistake in Spa, he just fluffed it completely up & got lucky, Gerry.

In Abu Dhabi, if Mercedes are leading, it might need another Spa incident for Nico to snatch this. If they are running 1-2 & Nico in the lead, Nico might need to slow down, create an incident, try & puncture Lewis & just hope he can carry on & win.

I'm 100% certain if Nico 'brake tests' Hamilton in Abu Dhabi, he'd be DQ'd.

[Gerry SA]

Also Gerry, what are you on about Hamilton spinning under 'no pressure'? Pressure isn't just about someone up your gearbox, it's about making purple sectors on heavily worn tyres, in an attempt to pass your teammate in the impending pit stop. If your comparing mistakes of both Mercedes drivers, as John correctly stated, it heavily weighs towards Rosberg over the whole season on Sunday's.

Really looking forward to Abu Dhabi though now.

Congratulations Craig. Daniel beat Sebastian. What do you want a pint as your prize? I doubt Sebastian is crying into his pillow too much, as he actually congratulated Daniel on beating him.

Nope no prize but it reinforces peoples beliefs that Vettel was so dominant because A. He had the best car by some way B. His only viable opponent (Webber) was a lightweight by F1 standards.

Well those peoples beliefs are wrong.

[Fernando]

Standard procedure no abusing or be put on the naughty step for Abu Dhabi

Take note people im sure you can figure who you are

[CaledonianCraig]

Also Gerry, what are you on about Hamilton spinning under 'no pressure'? Pressure isn't just about someone up your gearbox, it's about making purple sectors on heavily worn tyres, in an attempt to pass your teammate in the impending pit stop. If your comparing mistakes of both Mercedes drivers, as John correctly stated, it heavily weighs towards Rosberg over the whole season on Sunday's.

Really looking forward to Abu Dhabi though now.

Congratulations Craig. Daniel beat Sebastian. What do you want a pint as your prize? I doubt Sebastian is crying into his pillow too much, as he actually congratulated Daniel on beating him.

Nope no prize but it reinforces peoples beliefs that Vettel was so dominant because A. He had the best car by some way B. His only viable opponent (Webber) was a lightweight by F1 standards.

Well those peoples beliefs are wrong.

I await someone telling me the last time a four time world champ last got so comprehensively beaten by a team-mate who is a virtual newbie to the sport. Even dual champion Alonso never got so hammered.

[Gerry SA]

Also Gerry, what are you on about Hamilton spinning under 'no pressure'? Pressure isn't just about someone up your gearbox, it's about making purple sectors on heavily worn tyres, in an attempt to pass your teammate in the impending pit stop. If your comparing mistakes of both Mercedes drivers, as John correctly stated, it heavily weighs towards Rosberg over the whole season on Sunday's.

Really looking forward to Abu Dhabi though now.

Congratulations Craig. Daniel beat Sebastian. What do you want a pint as your prize? I doubt Sebastian is crying into his pillow too much, as he actually congratulated Daniel on beating him.

Nope no prize but it reinforces peoples beliefs that Vettel was so dominant because A. He had the best car by some way B. His only viable opponent (Webber) was a lightweight by F1 standards.

Well those peoples beliefs are wrong.

I await someone telling me the last time a four time world champ last got so comprehensively beaten by a team-mate who is a virtual newbie to the sport. Even dual champion Alonso never got so hammered.

Did Sebastian steal your lunch or is it that you just hate him?

Just a little statistical data. 
Schumacher
Fangio
Prost
Vettel 

All have 4(or more) WDCs. 
Schumacher was 31 when he won 4th WDC. 
Fangio was 44. 
Prost was 38
Vettel was 26. 

Schumacher, Fangio and Prost won their titles later in their careers, therefore more complete drivers. Vettel won his so young it was obvious he could/would get beaten. It was never gonna be possible to keep winning. 

Yes Vettel's been beaten by rookie, but does that at mean Vettel will never win again? If you are predicting that, I'll happily have the winning lotto numbers for Wednesday.

[CaledonianCraig]

I will confidently predict that unless he has a vastly superior car to the rest of the field again he will not win another title. Circumstance meant he was younger than the rest to win his titles and all of those drivers you mention never got so beaten up by a team-mate. Go figure why that is.

[GSC]

jfc the bitterness. I take it you'll be even less impressed by this Hamilton title win then Craig.

[CaledonianCraig]

Well no because Hamilton has had bad luck to contend with such as mechanical issues plus I'd rate Nico a slightly (just slightly) better driver than Webber. Also we know the team orders that existed at Red Bull unlike at Mercedes plus Hamilton has won one world title already in a car that was only on a part with rival teams in that season.

[GSC]

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This car has set a new record for 1-2 finishes, this is heads and tails above even the 2011 car. Will be interesting the comments next week after 4 years of crapping all over 4 WDCs because Vettel had a great car.

[CaledonianCraig]

Never seen Hamilton being sso owned like Vettel has this season by a virtual newbie like Riccardo and like I said Hamilton won a title in a car that was at best on a part with rival teams unlike Vettel.

[GSC]

Craig you've repeated that ad nauseum for months now and I've acknowledged it ages ago. Even speculated on it. In any case I place more stock in 4 WDC at the age of 26 than 1 down year against F1s newest superstar

[CaledonianCraig]

I challenge any F1 driver with a modicum of talent not to win four world titles in that Red Bull. If Seb was to win a world title at Ferrari in a car at best on part with other teams then it would be more impressive than all four of his titles in a dream car put together. Similarly, Hamilton's first world title is more impressive a feat than if he does it this year.

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