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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 14 Jan 2015, 3:11 pm

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Breaking News: Saints & Harlequins pick up strong bonus point wins while the battle for top 6 heats up with Gloucester & Saracens good form continuing. 
 


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2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                             

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1Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 9Northampton Saints 1412023983445444327257
2Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 12Sale Sharks *1411033893474243314350
3Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 6London Wasps *      1410133883622641344247
4Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 7Harlequins *148243923573539342441
5Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 4Leicester Tigers14617339347-828310733
6Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 11Saracens   14617341358-1730320733
7Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 48Exeter Chiefs *14545338352-1428310532
8Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 2Gloucester 14518357358-131320729
9Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 1Bath Rugby *14518361366-535351829
10Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 8Newcastle Falcons *14419344370-2631342726
11Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 5London Irish142210341378-3730391922
12Season 7 Homepage VI - Page 9 50London Welsh143011323377-5427390719

 
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
 
 
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

    The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.     

Player Releases wrote: 
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 27 Jan 2015, 4:02 pm

Kruis is a fine player. He'll have no problems.

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Post by BamBam Tue 27 Jan 2015, 4:04 pm

Yeah has to be Kruis, although I might just go for Kitchener's athleticism

On the main board, they've got an England team made up of injured players, not a bad side other than lacking a front row!

Lawes, Launchbury, Wood, Fraser, Morgan, ?, Farrell, Rokoduguni, Barritt, Tuilagi, Eastmond, Foden

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 27 Jan 2015, 5:02 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Kruis is a fine player. He'll have no problems.

I have huge issues with Kruis Steve. He's extremley underpowered and would be nowhere near the England set up if he was at Falcons, Sale etc.

I'd have Kitchener over him in a shot, I don't rate him in the slightest.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 27 Jan 2015, 6:12 pm

Disagree completely. Struggle with they underpowered thing. Especially when in a conversation involving Kitchener.

I'd have kruis 5th in line behind the obvious top 4


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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 27 Jan 2015, 6:20 pm

Kitchener the better player for me, although also disagree with the underpowered thing.
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Post by Driver Tue 27 Jan 2015, 9:50 pm

Agree with you right there Ozzy. Kitcherner is someone who could blossom into a top flight international given the right oppertunities for club and country. George Kruis is someone also with enormous potential , i dare say if he was French or Irish he'd be in both there match day 23s. He's massivley unlucky to be in a decade including Lawes , Launchbury , Parling and Attwood.

The one who i'm really excited about thought is Itoje at Saracens.
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Post by Fluxy Tue 27 Jan 2015, 10:05 pm

To be fair like the article Matt posted the other day, Kitchener would most likely be in most of 23s across the globe, All Blacks would most likely have him battling with Tuipuluto for the sun shirt, would start in my mind for Australia. Might struggle in South Africa, Argentina could pair him with Lavinini.

Kris is good, but is more long term and will eventually fill the Borthwick role for me, but with a much better carrying game. Not the best carrier, but more effective at least!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Jan 2015, 3:04 am

I've never liked Kruis. He gets flung around, bounced off tackles too easily, pretty much does none of graft effectively. I'd have about 10 locks ahead if him tbh.

I'd have Matthews ahead of him from your options Steve straight away.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Jan 2015, 6:38 am

PDJ back to Gloucester and 2 more front rowers.

http://www.gloucesterrugby.co.uk/mobile/news/10980.php

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 28 Jan 2015, 9:52 am

Have to agree to disagree. Although I'm not certain he is international standard lock yet and the 6N may be too soon. I'd have him streets ahead of Matthews and ahead of Slater, Kitchener, Day etc

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Jan 2015, 10:36 am

That's fair enough Steve.

Of that list Slater is light years ahead imo, certaibly better than Kruis. I'd go:

Launchbury
Lawes
Attwood
Parling
Slater
Kitchener

I'd have the rest like Kruis, Matthews, Day a level below.

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Post by Guest Wed 28 Jan 2015, 12:21 pm

Kruis be about level with Kitchener for me.

Knew PDJ was going back.

Sean knight posted on facebook about how he has been shafted.
His dad amusingly said if you were good enough they would not need to sign more props.

I know you were a huge PDJ fan pooly. He was an on scrunmager but woeful in loose.
Still thought he would have done better at the clubs he left for

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Jan 2015, 12:26 pm

He used to be excellent at Gloucester and it just all fell apart for him at Saints. Playing LH didn't help him but maybe it's just game time that he needs?

Knight has looked well below AP level, if Gloucester can get in a good LH they'll have a serious front 5.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 29 Jan 2015, 6:27 am

European player of the year short (long) list:

ick Abendanon (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
Steffon Armitage (RC Toulon)
Chris Ashton (Saracens)
Jamie Heaslip (Leinster Rugby)
Juan Imhoff (Racing Metro 92)
Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)
Fritz Lee (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
Camille Lopez (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
Ian Madigan (Leinster Rugby)
George North (Northampton Saints)
Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro 92)
Aurélien Rougerie (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
Nicolas Sanchez (RC Toulon)
Dimitri Szarzewski (Racing Metro 92)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens)

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 29 Jan 2015, 9:07 am

This just Euro games isnt it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 29 Jan 2015, 9:09 am

Yea it's just European games.

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Post by Guest Thu 29 Jan 2015, 12:11 pm

Very fair list

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Post by Driver Thu 29 Jan 2015, 12:16 pm

Bendy has been mint this year, Does CJ have him on here still?
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Jan 2015, 12:17 pm

Have to say Abendanon has been in sensational form for Clermont of late, such an underrated fullback, maybe doesn't do the spectacular, but is so solid in everything. THe match against Tigers a few years back when he kept on getting 'Tuilagi'd' was amazing how he kept getting up. Suprised none of the Wasps backrow got in there though.

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Post by Driver Thu 29 Jan 2015, 12:41 pm

Just a determained character , too many people spent too long worrying about him defending and ignoring his attacking quality.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Jan 2015, 1:40 pm

V good Saxons team, best I can remember we've put out.

15 Chris Pennell (Worcester Warriors)
14 Chris Ashton (Saracens)
13 Elliot Daly (Wasps)
12 Sam Burgess (Bath Rugby)
11 Marland Yarde (Harlequins)
10 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)
9 Lee Dickson, captain (Northampton Saints)
1 Matt Mullan (Wasps)
2 Rob Webber (Bath Rugby)
3 Henry Thomas (Bath Rugby)
4 Matt Garvey (Bath Rugby)
5 James Gaskell (Wasps)
6 Dave Ewers (Exeter Chiefs)
7 Matt Kvesic (Gloucester Rugby)
8 Thomas Waldrom (Exeter Chiefs)

Replacements
16 Luke Cowan Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)
17 Alex Waller (Northampton Saints)
18 Jake Cooper-Woolley (Wasps)
19 Maro Itoje (Saracens)
20 Carl Fearns (Bath)
21 Joe Simpson (Wasps)
22 Ollie Devoto (Bath Rugby)
23 Christian Wade (Wasps)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 29 Jan 2015, 1:48 pm

Not a bad side, the Saxons teams are usually pretty strong tbh, back 3 options are very impressive.

When is the game?

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Post by Guest Thu 29 Jan 2015, 1:53 pm

Great saxons pack Mullan and Thomas having brilliant seasons

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 29 Jan 2015, 1:53 pm

That midfield could be a disaster defensively, it'll certainly make for interesting viewing.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 29 Jan 2015, 2:08 pm

Geraghty and Brookes training with full squad.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 29 Jan 2015, 2:10 pm

15. Felix Jones (Shannon/Munster) (capt)
14. Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
13. Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
12. Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
11. Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/Leinster)
10. Ian Madigan (Blackrock College/Leinster)
9. Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht)
1. Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
2. Richardt Strauss (Old Wesley/Leinster)
3. Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)
4. Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
5. Mike McCarthy (Leinster)
6. Dominic Ryan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
7. Sean O'Brien (UCD/Leinster)
8. Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster) *

Replacements:

16. Rob Herring (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
17. Michael Bent (Leinster)
18. Nathan White (Galwegians/Connacht) *
19. Robbie Diack (Malone/Ulster)
20. Eoin McKeon (Corinthians/Connacht) *
21. Isaac Boss (Terenure/Leinster)
22. Noel Reid (Clontarf/Leinster)
23. Craig Gilroy (Dungannon/Ulster)


Ireland definately stronger on paper for me

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 29 Jan 2015, 2:13 pm

Agree Steve, some amount of caps in that line up

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Jan 2015, 2:21 pm

Should be an exciting game - Friday night on RTE at 7.30pm Pooly.

Definitely more experience in the Irish team, but think we have more game changing type players. We've got experience at 2. 8 and 9 and hopefully the weather will be ok so our backs can run.

Really dont think Lancaster rates Wade by having him on the bench. Would have hoped he would start.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 29 Jan 2015, 2:33 pm

Does Lancaster choose the Saxons side? Or does their coach?

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Jan 2015, 2:41 pm

Callard coaches but pretty sure Lancaster picks the team Steve, as there is the direct link to the England team from that.

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Post by Driver Thu 29 Jan 2015, 4:25 pm

Chris,

It's on SkySports
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Jan 2015, 4:37 pm

Cheers Driver!

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Jan 2015, 4:39 pm

Anyone see that Steffon Armitage got himself arrested for assault?

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-breaking-news/20641/steffon-armitage-in-custody-for-alleged-assault/#sthash.FyVD8KGJ.dpuf

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Post by Driver Thu 29 Jan 2015, 5:24 pm

Now it's interesting if SL picks him after not picking care for drink driving
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu 29 Jan 2015, 10:03 pm

Like the Saxons backs in attack, but Burgess leading the line, with Daly and Ashton and Yarde defending out wide could be awful. Think Slade at 10 is to bring him in as a bench option for England. Garvey at 4 a good idea, but think that backrow isn't an int backrow in balanced composition
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu 29 Jan 2015, 10:16 pm

Driver wrote:Bendy has been mint this year, Does CJ have him on here still?

If only!
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Post by ChequeredJersey Thu 29 Jan 2015, 10:18 pm

Can anyone remember where he is?
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Post by Guest Thu 29 Jan 2015, 10:30 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Like the Saxons backs in attack, but Burgess leading the line, with Daly and Ashton and Yarde defending out wide could be awful. Think Slade at 10 is to bring him in as a bench option for England. Garvey at 4 a good idea, but think that backrow isn't an int backrow in balanced composition


That is the 2 poorest defensive wings to have played for England in recent years. Both good at scoring though. Should be a great watch.

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Post by Guest Thu 29 Jan 2015, 11:02 pm

I am ok with Burgess playing 12 and think he has defended well when I have seen him. He said today that he is starting to see the game slower where it first it seemed manic which is a good thing.

However he is playing with slade who has not played 10 for ages and a centre he has never played with. I kind of question the value of the Saxons as a chance to show what you can do as it is a side thrown together and often with less training time than the barbarians.

Still will be a good watch. Think wade should have started. We all know what Ashton and yarde can and can't do. Would have rather have seen wade and maybe rokadunguni to see how they went.

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Post by BamBam Thu 29 Jan 2015, 11:16 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:Can anyone remember where he is?
SJE has Abendanon on here if that's what you mean

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Post by Guest Thu 29 Jan 2015, 11:51 pm

Bendy has got better as he has lost a bit of pace. Picks great lines and has vision. He takes better options these days. He will never be the best defender as he is so small so will get knocked off. He is game though and a far better defendrr than goode.

the reason he did not play more int his kicking game is not great and kicking so important at int level.

read an article on a coaching site about how older backs can prolong their career and look better in france. It said that due to top14 players being heavier and less fit it allows more opportunities to counter attack. Also as squads are bigger you play less and training is less intense. Not sure I believe it

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Post by Guest Fri 30 Jan 2015, 12:12 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11378489/Six-Nations-2015-Pair-Henry-Slade-with-Jonathan-Joseph-and-England-can-win-in-Cardiff.html

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Post by Guest Fri 30 Jan 2015, 1:01 am

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jan/29/england-six-nations-stuart-lancaster-danny-cipriani#comments

good article. Cips kicking stats 73.2 vs myler 73.7% is interesting. Always perceived myler to have significantly better stats. When you consider Cips attemlts some outrageous shots also...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 30 Jan 2015, 4:55 am

Cipriani is kicking in the 60% as of last week, that's not good enough.

His tackling percentage has been fine in the AP but awful in the HC, drops from 88% to around 50/60% which is again not good enough.

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Post by Guest Fri 30 Jan 2015, 8:58 am

Cips kicking 72.3%. http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/jan/27/danny-cipriani-stephen-myler-england-no10

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Post by Guest Fri 30 Jan 2015, 9:03 am

Geraghty training with full england squad ?? Is that right ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 30 Jan 2015, 9:35 am

Cipriani kicking at 69%

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/features/columnists/jeremy-guscott/20583/jeremy-guscott-suddenly-danny-cipriani-can-tackle-shame-about-his-kicking/

69% or 72%, that's not International quality kicking.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 30 Jan 2015, 10:23 am

Max Lahiff rumoured to be coming back to the AP, could be worth a punt in releases, good AP player. I wonder if Gloucester might be in for him? I hope Falcons are.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 30 Jan 2015, 10:33 am

Lahiff has joined Bath.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 30 Jan 2015, 10:35 am

I thought they'd go for a more experienced loosehead. Auterac and Lahiff both have potential but going into a season with Nathan Catt as your premier loosehead. Not with Bath's ambitions.

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