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Post by Cumbrian Thu 22 Jan 2015, 7:08 pm

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Sebastian Adeniran-Olule (Harlequins)
Lewis Boyce (Yorkshire Carnegie)
Paul Hill (Yorkshire Carnegie)*
Ciaran Parker (Sale)

Hooker:

Jake Farnworth (Leicester)
Jack Innard (Exeter)
Jack Walker (Yorkshire Carnegie)*

Second Row:

Joe Batley (Gloucester)
Charlie Ewels (Bath)*
Huw Tayloer (Worcester)
Kieran Treadwell (Harlequins)
Will Witty (Newcastle)

Back-Row:

Charlie Beckett (Leicester)
Andrew Boyce (Worcester)
James Chisholm (Harlequins)*
Ellis Genge (Bristol)
Will Owen (Leicester)*
Sam Skinner (Exeter)

Scrum Half:

James Mitchel (Sale)
Stuart Townsend (Exeter)*

Flyhalf:

Rory Jennings (Bath)
Harry Mallinder (Northamton)
Tom Morton (Sale)

Centre:

Max Clarke (Bath)
Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
Piers O’Connor (Wasps)
Nick Tompkins (Saracens)*

Wings:

Tom Fowlie (London Irish)
Aaron Morris (Bedford)
Taylor Prell (Yorkshire Carnegie)

Fullback:

Howard Packman (Northampton)*
George Perkins (Saracens)

Some really exciting players coming through this year.  Will be good to see if Nick Tompkins has progressed from last year.  Stuart Townsend is one of the best age grade scrummies I have seen since Ben Youngs burst onto the scene.  I've heard good things about Lewis Boyce and Paul Hill.
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Post by Poorfour Thu 22 Jan 2015, 7:46 pm

James Chisholm is also one to watch - has looked at home at AP level in the handful of games he has played - physically very powerful, especially considering how young he is, and pretty quick too.

That's a squad with the potential to make it three in a row. If England can manage the transition into the senior squad and keep them fit, 2019 is looking bright.
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Post by Cumbrian Thu 22 Jan 2015, 7:57 pm

Since it always seems to come up with England, here are their sizes too:

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Sebastian Adeniran-Olule (Height: 6ft 0in & 17st 2lb)
Lewis Boyce (6ft 1in & 17st 11lb)
Paul Hill (6ft 2in & 18st 5lb)
Ciaran Parker (6ft 0in & 17st 4lb)

Hooker:

Jake Farnworth (5ft 11in & 15st 10lb)
Jack Innard (5ft 11in & 15st 10lb)
Jack Walker (6ft 1in (15st 10lb)

Second Row:

Joe Batley (6ft 6in & 18st 1lb)
Charlie Ewels (6ft 6in & 17st 0lb)
Huw Taylor (6ft 5in & 16st 0lb)
Kieran Treadwell (6ftt 7in & 17st 11lb)
Will Witty (6ft 6in & 18st 5lb)

Back-Row

Charlie Beckett (6ft 4in & 18st 1lb)
Andrew Boyce (6ft 1in & 13st 7lb)
James Chisholm (6ft 3in & 16st 7lb)
Ellis Genge (6ft 2in & 17st 11lb)
Will Owen (6ft 0in & 14st 13lb)
Sam Skinner (6ft 5in & 16st 5lb)

Scrum Half:

James Mitchel (5ft 8in & 12st 3lb)
Stuart Townsend (5ft 9in & 13st 12lb)

Flyhalf:

Rory Jennings (5ft 9in & 13st 3lb)
Harry Mallinder (6ft 5in & 17st 0lb) - Apparently this is right! Biggest 10 I’ve heard of
Tom Morton (5ft 9in & 12st 6lb)

Centre:

Max Clarke (6ft 3in & 15st 12lb)
Joe Marchant (6ft 0in & 14st 0lb)
Piers O’Connor (6ft 2in & 14st 6lb)
Nick Tompkins (6ft 0in & 14st 2lb)

Wings:

Tom Fowlie (6ft 0in & 15st 10lb)
Aaron Morris (6ft 2in & 14st 11lb)
Taylor Prell (5ft 10in & 13st 0lb)

Fullback:

Howard Packman (6ft 0in & 13st 7lb)
George Perkins (6ft 2in & 14st 6lb)
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Post by formerly known as Sam Thu 22 Jan 2015, 10:21 pm

Beckett is a cracking flanker. He was the unsung hero of the LV win over Sale. The expectation on the Tigers offy is that he'll be a Tigers captain.

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Post by DaveM Thu 22 Jan 2015, 11:06 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Beckett is a cracking flanker. He was the unsung hero of the LV win over Sale. The expectation on the Tigers offy is that he'll be a Tigers captain.

A BS presumably?

I haven't followed this group through from u18 level as I have done with previous groups, so I don't know quite a few of them. I know the front row are highly rated, and Tompkins, and plenty of these players will never have lost when playing for England at age group level (none of the sides below u20 lost last season). Given the quality of the academies and the age group coaching it would be a surprise if this wasn't a very good squad.

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Post by Welly Thu 22 Jan 2015, 11:54 pm

Yeh mainly plays blindside also plays lock. will owen the other Tiger is mainly an openside.

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Post by Geordie Fri 23 Jan 2015, 8:21 am

Wow that's a big FH!!!

Well ill back young Will Witty at Lock. He's been hugely impressive when he's ran out for us...

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Post by Geordie Fri 23 Jan 2015, 8:23 am

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The thing that concerns me is that with all this amount of talent coming through...is Lancaster the one to make best use of it in the seniors?

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Post by LondonTiger Fri 23 Jan 2015, 8:34 am

Looking back at all england coaches from Geoff Cooke on, Bomber is the one most likely to give a young player a chance.

Whether they are the right ones - well that is a different matter. Every U20 squad will include more players who do not make the grade at full international that do. The skill is always spotting those that are good enough (while not excluding those missed by the age grade system)

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Post by Cumbrian Fri 23 Jan 2015, 9:09 am

It’s true, Lancaster has a very clear idea of the players he wants and he could be accused of having favourites.  However, he has shown that he is unafraid to give young players a go.

Think of the players who have been given an opportunity by Lancaster (and the age they were first capped).

Joe Marler (22)
Joe Launchbury (21)
Jack Nowell (20)
Anthony Watson (20)
Owen Farrell (20)
George Ford (20)
Jon Joseph (21)
Jonny May (22)
Billy Vunipola (21)
George Kruis (23)
Mako Vunipola (22)
Kieran Brookes (24)
Henry Thomas (21)
Matt Kveic (20)
Marland Yarde (20)
Christian Wade (21)
Freddi Burns (22)

And in the Saxons

Luke Cowan-Dickie (21)
Alex Waller (24)
Maro Itoje (20)
Dave Ewers (24)
Ollie Devoto (21)
Elliott Daly (20)
Henry Slade (21)
Ross Harrison (22)
Rob Buchanan (21)
Scott Wilson (20)

I think Lancaster has demonstrated that if you’re good enough he will give you a chance, no matter what your age.


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Post by The Saint Fri 23 Jan 2015, 9:34 am

Poorfour wrote:

That's a squad with the potential to make it three in a row.

Bold statement after losing most of that team. I don't doubt that you'll be there-abouts though, as always.

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Post by Geordie Fri 23 Jan 2015, 10:01 am

Oh im not questioning his belief in giving the kids a chance....i just questioning his tactics and selection policies at times.

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Post by Geordie Fri 23 Jan 2015, 10:02 am

The Saint wrote:
Poorfour wrote:

That's a squad with the potential to make it three in a row.

Bold statement after losing most of that team. I don't doubt that you'll be there-abouts though, as always.

I agree its a bold statement but he did say "potential" not that we WOULD win it. And I agree it is a talented squad that will be there or there abouts,.

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Post by beshocked Fri 23 Jan 2015, 11:04 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee2-bDaDP_Y

England U18s vs U18 Wales last season.

3 tries from George Perkins

Looks like a good prospect.


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Post by yappysnap Fri 23 Jan 2015, 2:02 pm

Is that Mallinder jnr son if the coach?


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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Fri 23 Jan 2015, 2:15 pm

Yes Yappy Harry Mallinder is also at Saints in the academy & represented England at all younger age grades.

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Post by DaveM Fri 23 Jan 2015, 11:35 pm

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:Yes Yappy Harry Mallinder is also at Saints in the academy & represented England at all younger age grades.

Plays 10 and 12 I believe. I read a suggestion he was a better 12, but that was just one person's opinion.

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Post by DaveM Sat 24 Jan 2015, 12:05 am

beshocked wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee2-bDaDP_Y

England U18s vs U18 Wales last season.

3 tries from George Perkins

Looks like a good prospect.


I love watching English age group sides because the basics are generally so good these days. The try after 51 minutes sees some wonderful lines from the backs, and even the try after 58 mins shows excellent awareness and decision-making from a several players. Nothing flash, but just the sort of things you'd expect from a good SH side.

If Perkins can keep that form up at u20 level he looks an exciting prospect indeed. Sarries are producing a few exciting outside backs at the moment.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 07 Feb 2015, 7:34 pm

England team playing Wales at the moment:

England Under 20 squad to face Wales

15 Piers O’Conor (Wasps)
14 George Perkins (Saracens)
13 Joe Marchant (Harlequins)
12 Max Clark (Bath Rugby)
11 Howard Packman (Northampton Saints)*
10 Rory Jennings (Bath Rugby)
9 Stuart Townsend (Exeter Chiefs)

1 Ellis Genge (Bristol Rugby)
2 Jack Walker (Yorkshire Carnegie)*
3 Paul Hill (Yorkshire Carnegie)*
4 Kieran Treadwell (Harlequins)
5 Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby, captain)*
6 Charlie Beckett (Leicester Tigers)
7 Will Owen (Leicester Tigers)
8 James Chisholm (Harlequins)*

Replacements:

16 Jake Farnworth (Leicester Tigers)
17 Seb Adeniran-Olule (Harlequins)
18 Ciaran Parker (Sale Sharks)
19 Joe Batley (Gloucester Rugby)
20 Josh Bainbridge (Yorkshire Carnegie)
21 James Mitchell (Sale Sharks)
22 Tom Morton (Sale Sharks)
23 Tom Fowlie (London Irish)

You can watch this at:

http://www.s4c.co.uk/clic/e_live.shtml
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