Mayweather Vs Cotto 2 - For The Lineal MW Title

Is anyone particularly excited for this?

I'm personally not, as we found out last time, Cotto doesn't have enough for Floyd although is off the back off a technically great win that made him the lineal Middleweight champion, surely flatters him as Martinez looked finished to me. Floyd in comparison is off the back of one rather poor performance and one good performance against Maidana that made Floyd look slightly more vulnerable.

Has THAT much changed to make this fight a bit of a nailbiter? Can't see it personally.

If Floyd does fight at 160lbs I can guarantee the second highest viewings rated fighter on HBO (Golovkin) won't get a look in for that supposedly lineal title.

Would prefer him to face Khan, Manny or Thurman.

Bradley, Garcia etc. are all too slow or don't have the physical strength to overpower Floyd despite perhaps having better CV's to do so other than Manny you just look at those fights and just think it's pointless as they can't win.

Not excited but it sounds like it will more than likely be made especially with no Cotto/Canelo it seems.

I'm not sure that cotto v mayweather can go ahead for business reasons. If it was announced it would be on showtime, 2nd may. Mayweather would be looking for is $32 million + gate & ppv split. Cotto won't come cheap and will be looking for a lot more than Guerrero, Maidana types, let's say 8 million, and ppv and gate split. 

Showtime would lose their shirt putting cotto v mayweather on because Canelo v Kirkland a dead cert of an action fight, involving a Mexican on Mexican independence day free to air on the much wider circulating hbo will cream any showtime card not titled "floyd v manny"

Yeah I'm not that interested in cotto v mayweather either, it's not a terrible fight. But floyd only has a handful left, I'd prefer to see something new.

Hang on little one, lets just wait and see if the Pacquiao fight gets made first of all.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/378781-mayweather-pacquiao-had-friendly-conversation-at-heat-game

Now I know we all love mind games, who "won the first round" before they stepped in to the ring. But it's clear for all and sundry that Manny is absolutely Poopie himself and in no way shape or form wants to fight Mayweather.

Isn't it superbowl this weekend? I've heard a very sly rumour that they're going to announce it at the half time show

Whoever Mayweather fights it won't be a risk.

Strongback wrote:Whoever Mayweather fights it won't be a risk.

Wlad?

Some would lead you to believe that Khan is the new Whitaker as well.

Mayweather is fighting Manny. They met at a basketball game. After they talked, both shook hands and went their own way.

They haven't announced the fight because they want us to think it is not going to happen, then at the last minute they drop the bombshell. They are trying to build even more drama.

Fight is going to happen.

They haven't announced the fight because they want us to think it is not going to happen

Well for the last 5 years they've been doing a bloody good job of it.

Coxy001 wrote:

They haven't announced the fight because they want us to think it is not going to happen

Well for the last 5 years they've been doing a bloody good job of it.

It is only now the fight is being realistic. I do believe Floyd and Manny wanted the fight but greed and power struggles have got in the way. The fight is 4 or 5 years late but it is still very relevant.

I just hope I am right and the finally sign to fight.

Floyd will fight Cotto and Pacquiao will fight Jesse Vargas.

They'll probably fight after they've both slipped a bit more and milk the remnants of a once great fight for all its worth.

hazharrison wrote:Floyd will fight Cotto and Pacquiao will fight Jesse Vargas.

They'll probably fight after they've both slipped a bit more and milk the remnants of a once great fight for all its worth.

I hope you are wrong Haz. Time will tell.

AdamT wrote:

hazharrison wrote:Floyd will fight Cotto and Pacquiao will fight Jesse Vargas.

They'll probably fight after they've both slipped a bit more and milk the remnants of a once great fight for all its worth.

I hope you are wrong Haz. Time will tell.

If it doesn't get announced during the superbowl then give it up Adam, I do admire your confidence though.

Can't believe after all those years talking about it on beeb 606, 6 years later we still debating will it/wont it happen..

Mayweather is a (unt

Wonder how many times Duran would've fought Pacquiao ??

Cheers, Rodders

Coxy001 wrote:

AdamT wrote:

hazharrison wrote:Floyd will fight Cotto and Pacquiao will fight Jesse Vargas.

They'll probably fight after they've both slipped a bit more and milk the remnants of a once great fight for all its worth.

I hope you are wrong Haz. Time will tell.

If it doesn't get announced during the superbowl then give it up Adam, I do admire your confidence though.

Just think it is now or never. People say September but that is very risky. Cotto is no mug and with the right gameplan he could upset Mayweather. The fight is late but I still want to see it.

Rodney wrote:Can't believe after all those years talking about it on beeb 606, 6 years later we still debating will it/wont it happen..

Mayweather is a (unt

Wonder how many times Duran would've fought Pacquiao ??

Cheers, Rodders

Once because he would of smashed him and Manny wouldn't want a rematch.

AdamT wrote:

Rodney wrote:Can't believe after all those years talking about it on beeb 606, 6 years later we still debating will it/wont it happen..

Mayweather is a (unt

Wonder how many times Duran would've fought Pacquiao ??

Cheers, Rodders

Once because he would of smashed him and Manny wouldn't want a rematch.

One more than Mayweather wouldve fought him then.

Cheers, Rodders

Can you imagine if Nadal refused to play against Federer for six years?

Rodney wrote:

AdamT wrote:

Rodney wrote:Can't believe after all those years talking about it on beeb 606, 6 years later we still debating will it/wont it happen..

Mayweather is a (unt

Wonder how many times Duran would've fought Pacquiao ??

Cheers, Rodders

Once because he would of smashed him and Manny wouldn't want a rematch.

One more than Mayweather wouldve fought him then.

Cheers, Rodders

Yeah so it may seem. Pacquiao has no blame what so ever for the Mayweather fight not happening.

Floyd is a coward and Pacquaio would put him away within 3 rounds.

Smart move by Floyd avoiding Manny. If he had of fought him then Manny would of destroyed him, so Floyd would never have got that Showtime contract.

DAVE667 wrote:Can you imagine if Nadal refused to play against Federer for six years?

Yeah be a bit s..t. Oh well pity Floyd has no b..s

A superfeather is fighting for the second best title in Boxing the middleweight title !!!

Something one person has probably done in 140 years..

and he's a coward...

Listen to yourselves...Pathetic..

He is afraid of Manny Tuss.

Manny would beat the fab 4 in the same night while Mayweather would duck and dodge everybody. He is a coward and Manny is a killer.

Is he f**k

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Is he f**k

Yeah I know, sarcasm Truss!

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:A superfeather is fighting for the second best title in Boxing the middleweight title !!!

Something one person has probably done in 140 years..

and he's a coward...

Listen to yourselves...Pathetic..

Didn't realise he was fighting the best middleweight in Gennady Golovkin...... Can you imagine what Golovkin would have done to a shot Martinez? It would have been bad...

Cotto is not the best in the division, regardless of whether he holds the lineal belt.

Mayweather already beat Cotto, so what is the point in fighting again? Hope they boycott it

Only today can a super feather win a middle title or attempt to and be hammered for it..

Laughable...

Wonder how many Brits have tried winning a belt 30 pounds up from there first ??

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Only today can a super feather win a middle title or attempt to and be hammered for it..

Laughable...

Wonder how many Brits have tried winning a belt 30 pounds up from there first ??

None because, they are not good enough. Floyd is head and shoulders above the best Brits. Funny how guys on here slag floyd but probably think J Calzaghe is the man. He was manufactured as f..k for most of his career.

AdamT wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Only today can a super feather win a middle title or attempt to and be hammered for it..

Laughable...

Wonder how many Brits have tried winning a belt 30 pounds up from there first ??

None because, they are not good enough. Floyd is head and shoulders above the best Brits. Funny how guys on here slag floyd but probably think J Calzaghe is the man. He was manufactured as f..k for most of his career.

Who? Or are you making sh1t up?

Can't remember people in particular but have definitley seen some members talk up Joe as a genuine atg, which is laughable.

If Floyd is struggling to be an atg, then frankly Joe isn't even in the converstion. Don't get me wrong, joe is an excellant fighter but he was very carefully managed. Only took real risks when he was at the tail end of his career.

It is pretty sad because he was a real talented fighter.

I've never seen anyone try to put Calzaghe and Mayweather in the same bracket and anyone doing so is an idiot.

As for another fight between Floyd and Cotto, I think people have a valid point when questioning its merits and what it really adds to Floyd's legacy.  Floyd's beaten Cotto and the lineal title or not, the fight won't determine who the best middleweight on the planet is.  

Of course, Floyd has no obligation to take career defining fights, but the flipside of that is that he and his hardcore fans can't expect everyone to bow before his record and accept it without question or caveats.

P.S. before I'm accused of being a hater, I have Floyd around the edges of the top 10.

superflyweight wrote:I've never seen anyone try to put Calzaghe and Mayweather in the same bracket and anyone doing so is an idiot.

As for another fight between Floyd and Cotto, I think people have a valid point when questioning it's merits and what it really adds to Floyd's legacy.  Floyd's beaten Cotto and the lineal title or not, the fight won't determine who the best middleweight on the planet is.  

Of course, Floyd has no obligation to take career defining fights, but the flipside of that is that he and his hardcore fans can't expect everyone to bow before his record and accept it without question or caveats.

P.S. before I'm accused of being a hater, I have Floyd around the edges of the top 10.    

He will Fight Manny, maybe I'm being naive but I think it will happen.

So Floyd can duck Manny but rematch Cotto and TRUSS justifies it. Incredible yet wholly unsurprising. Only thing worse would be Floyd petitioning the courts to declare Jermaine Taylor fit to fight him claiming that as he waved a gun in the faces of his family members, Taylor "legitimately" becomes the biggest threat Floyd's ever faced

DAVE667 wrote:So Floyd can duck Manny but rematch Cotto and TRUSS justifies it. Incredible yet wholly unsurprising. Only thing worse would be Floyd petitioning the courts to declare Jermaine Taylor fit to fight him claiming that as he waved a gun in the faces of his family members, Taylor "legitimately" becomes the biggest threat Floyd's ever faced

I'm a Floyd fan and I don't justify it. Though I am getting a strange feeling it is not all down to floyd.

Tbh Dave if they don't fight they can both f..k off for all I care.

They can both f*ck off right now

DAVE667 wrote:They can both f*ck off right now

Yeah it consumes everything to do with boxing.

Think I wil just sit back and look forward to McGregor vs Aldo.

Unless this has actually been signed, thread seems a bit pointless (no offence, Alex).

It's been discussed. We'll all know it's a cack fight (bar a couple of Flomo's trying to big it up with the usual nonesense) and that it further evidences a lack of inclination from Floyd to fight Pac.

Only interesting angle is if this is all smoke and mirrors and Cotto has been paid to step-aside from Canelo/CincodeMayo so as not to challenge a giant Manny-Floyd PPV.

To be fair, I'm a big fan of fighters in the "Light" division challenging for the fully fledged title. It's a boring as sin clash, and I don't particularly care even if Cotto comes to play (he might, you know. Came closish in the first one, lessons learnt, bigger weight, older Floyd... things could happen), I'd be contradicting myself somewhat if I objected to this fight. With that said, it's a farce that Floyd is still the 154 champ because he beat a Welterweight, who has been a welterweight for a while in a fight at welterweight. Only boxing

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Only today can a super feather win a middle title or attempt to and be hammered for it..

Laughable...

Wonder how many Brits have tried winning a belt 30 pounds up from there first ??

But it's ok for you the 'hammer' Manny for doing it.....??

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Only today can a super feather win a middle title or attempt to and be hammered for it..

Laughable...

Wonder how many Brits have tried winning a belt 30 pounds up from there first ??

But it's ok for you the 'hammer' Manny for doing it.....??

What ????????????????????????????????????

Geez..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Only today can a super feather win a middle title or attempt to and be hammered for it..

Laughable...

Wonder how many Brits have tried winning a belt 30 pounds up from there first ??

But it's ok for you the 'hammer' Manny for doing it.....??

What ????????????????????????????????????

Geez..

You don't credit Manny much for the same achievement, if anything you try to degrade with comments about catchweights and PED rumours.

Manny is in my Top 20........

I don't buy his power...........But until he's proven a cheat he's in the my Top 20 !!!!!..

You really should read properly..

Mine too, as is Floyd.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Mine too, as is Floyd.

Strongy has fifty fighters ahead of both of them....

I'd love him to tell us who one day !!

Funny they are both in mine as well but we still fight over them ha.

Manny is a wonderful fighter and seems a decent guy. Just think Floyd is that we bit more special.

Though if people think Manny was better 5 years ago that is certainly a valid argument. I would of had it 60-40 Floyd then and now maybe 80-20.

In fairness he came out 11 when averaged out on a 606 thread.....

Only one spoon has him 50...........

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:In fairness he came out 11 when averaged out on a 606 thread.....

Only one spoon has him 50...........

He is my top ten and if Manny didn't have struggles with Marquez he would be close to ten. He is probably just about 20 for me. Great fighter though. I am a fan of Floyds skills as I believe he is a once in a life time genuis.

I know I have put the boot into Manny at times but a lot of it is tongue and cheek and a bit of Wum. I respect the hell out of Manny, just think Floyd is a bit better. (I could be wrong)

AdamT wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:In fairness he came out 11 when averaged out on a 606 thread.....

Only one spoon has him 50...........

He is my top ten and if Manny didn't have struggles with Marquez he would be close to ten. He is probably just about 20 for me. Great fighter though. I am a fan of Floyds skills as I believe he is a once in a life time genuis.

I know I have put the boot into Manny at times but a lot of it is tongue and cheek and a bit of Wum. I respect the hell out of Manny, just think Floyd is a bit better. (I could be wrong)

I don't mark Manny down for my suspicions about him basically because I suspect there are shed loads at it.....To varying degrees !!...

Morales and the fact I've given JMM three out of four is holding him back a little.............But I imagine he's nearer to 15 than 20 in my list If I could be bothered compiling..

A great fighter...........

Just not as great as Floyd at least in my opinion.

What would Floyd set the catch weight at 148lbs?

Floyd's head and especially his forehead is expanding at a rate of knots as evidenced by the photo with Manny.

He's going to end up looking like this if he isn't careful:

AdamT wrote:Just not as great as Floyd at least in my opinion.

Ignore the tiresome idiot......

Yes Adam ...Think most people have Floyd above Manny..........

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Just not as great as Floyd at least in my opinion.

Ignore the tiresome idiot......

Yes Adam ...Think most people have Floyd above Manny..........

I couldn't be the fan boy of a fighter that beats women and children. I suppose we all have different standards.

Strongback wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

AdamT wrote:Just not as great as Floyd at least in my opinion.

Ignore the tiresome idiot......

Yes Adam ...Think most people have Floyd above Manny..........

I couldn't be the fan boy of a fighter that beats women and children.  I suppose we all have different standards.

Yep...