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Post by wales606 Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:07 pm

First topic message reminder :

Prop
Gethin Jenkins, Taufa'ao Filise, Craig Mitchell, Sam Hobbs, Scott Andrews, Thomas Davies, Dillon Lewis

Hooker
Matthew Rees, Kristian Dacey, Rhys Williams, Ethan Lewis

2nd Row
Jarrad Hoeata, James Down, Lou Reed, Chris Dicomidis, Miles Normandale

Flanker
Sam Warburton, Josh Turnbull, Macauley Cook, Ellis Jenkins, Josh Navidi, Jevon Groves, Ben Roach

Eight
Manoa Vosawai

Scrum half
Tavis Knoyle, Lloyd Williams, Lewis Jones, Tomos Williams

Fly half
Rhys Patchell, Gareth Anscombe, Gareth Davies, Jarrod Evans, Will Thomas

Centre
Cory Allen, Gavin Evans, Richard Smith, Tom Pascoe, Adam Thomas, Garyn Smith, Ray Lee-Lo

Wing
Alex Cuthbert, Harry Davies, Owen Jenkins, Chris Knight, Tom Williams, Tom James

Full back
Blaine Scully, Dan Fish, Geraint Walsh, Aled Summerhill


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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:07 pm

gcBlues wrote:MFL

Something with a small c, I heard.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:15 pm

LordDowlais wrote:
GavinDragon wrote:he strikes me as someone who doesnt really have the respect of top players

I agree, but if he has the Chief as his right hand man, that could be a good partnership.

Don't you mean forearm?


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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:19 pm

wales606 wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Rumour has it the one and only Sean Holley is headed your way.

Well, in fairness, he couldn't make things worse.

Would prolong the agony then.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:22 pm

Bluesfamily are Poopie!
Said so on ChumV, yur.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32279098

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:50 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:I have good news for all Blues fans.  Come this time next season the Blues will have a home Pro12 semi-final lined up, and will be in the Challenge Cup semi-finals too.

Rumour has it the one and only Sean Holley is headed your way.

Tell me you're kidding.

Part of me wants to cry, as I want 4 strong sides. But part of me wants to laugh too! Laugh

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 16, 2015 10:55 pm

Here you go. Something to get your teeth into. The king of self promotion?!

http://www.seanholley.co.uk

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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:10 pm

Griff wrote:
Cardiff Dave wrote:
ScarletSpiderman wrote:I have good news for all Blues fans.  Come this time next season the Blues will have a home Pro12 semi-final lined up, and will be in the Challenge Cup semi-finals too.

Rumour has it the one and only Sean Holley is headed your way.

Tell me you're kidding.

Part of me wants to cry, as I want 4 strong sides. But part of me wants to laugh too! Laugh

One would do for me. Mine.


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Post by Cardiff Dave Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:12 pm

Griff wrote:Here you go. Something to get your teeth into. The king of self promotion?!

http://www.seanholley.co.uk

Not clicking on that link for starters.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:19 pm

Cardiff Dave wrote:
Griff wrote:Here you go. Something to get your teeth into. The king of self promotion?!

http://www.seanholley.co.uk

Not clicking on that link for starters.

Go on. You might learn something (about Holley that is. Not rugby. It's all about him).

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri Apr 17, 2015 6:45 am

I've said elsewhere that if this means he won't be on Scrum V all the time, I'm all for it.

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Post by LordDowlais Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:20 am

Oh well Tuculet has left a sinking ship, he is off at the end of the season:-

http://www.cardiffblues.com/news/7606.php

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:51 am

Presumably Sean Holley going to the Blues is dependent on Bristol not getting promoted?

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Post by XR Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:07 pm

If they put Sean Holley in post then that's it for me and the blues, will solely be a Cardiff RFC supporter.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Sat Apr 18, 2015 8:27 pm

gcBlues wrote:If they put Sean Holley in post then that's it for me and the blues, will solely be a Cardiff RFC supporter.

No doubt he'd be statting the Rags players too and don't forget we're sposed to be having regional A games next season instead of the LV.

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Post by The Saint Sat Apr 18, 2015 9:13 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:Presumably Sean Holley going to the Blues is dependent on Bristol not getting promoted?

They've obvs had enough of prat pad like we have.

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Post by PenfroPete Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:00 pm

Well, that's that rumour put to bed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32394746
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Post by The Saint Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:14 pm

Blues fans relieved laughing

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Post by The Saint Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:15 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32397373

Fans thoughts on Dale then? Nobody has really discussed him much since he's been with the Blues.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:41 pm

The Saint wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32397373

Fans thoughts on Dale then? Nobody has really discussed him much since he's been with the Blues.

"If it's myself, it's myself, if it's Paul it's Paul, if it's someone else it's irrelevant to us." - Chief

Well that read as "If its me good, if its Paul I will support him, if it is another bleeding outsider we will force him out too"
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Post by Guest Tue Apr 21, 2015 4:47 pm

Things are not looking good at the Blues, neither Paul or the Chief are up to the task.

What about Nigel Davies, where has he been hiding?

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Post by Cardiff Dave Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:18 pm

IronMike wrote:Things are not looking good at the Blues, neither Paul or the Chief are up to the task.

What about Nigel Davies, where has he been hiding?

After reading the Holland interview, things are looking better imo.

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Post by Cardiff Dave Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:23 pm

The Saint wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32397373

Fans thoughts on Dale then? Nobody has really discussed him much since he's been with the Blues.

He's really 'ard and has been encouraged to apply for the DOR job.
Good luck to him.

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Post by XR Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:56 am

The Saint wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/32397373

Fans thoughts on Dale then? Nobody has really discussed him much since he's been with the Blues.

Inept defence coach and is using the media to keep himself in a job.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:03 am

He also likes Groggs.

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Post by The Saint Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:06 am

Fair. Declan Kidney as head coach, Nigel Davies as backs coach? Unlikely, but it would be nice. I can blues keeping McIntosh and John, so prepare for another year like the one you had under B and B.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:32 pm

Who knew that Dai Young would be so missed? Dai Young for future Wales coach?!

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Post by Guest Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:02 pm

Josh Navidi proving again why he is one of the best forwards playing for the Blues, if he is not capped this September I wouldn't blame him for buggering off to join a better club

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:46 pm

IronMike wrote:Josh Navidi proving again why he is one of the best forwards playing for the Blues, if he is not capped this September I wouldn't blame him for buggering off to join a better club

Thought him and Baker really showed up well at No8 and hopefully both will get a shot in the warm up games and put much needed pressure on Faletau. Said all along I just didn't see what the fuss about Anscombe was and I still stand by that.
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Post by Guest Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:24 pm

Dafydd Hewitt has had to retire due to a neck injury at 29 years old.

The very definition of a solid club player, often had to deputise for Jamie Roberts and did well enough. Much better than the other recent centres we had other than Laulala.

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Post by Coleman Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:10 pm

Any news outside of the media on any movement on the coaching front or players? 

I noticed Adam Jones said on ScrumV last week that he wasnt in the team because Craig Mitchell and Scott Andrews will be here next season. Would that suggest that Andrews has had his contract renewed? I thought he was on the way out. 

Shame about Hewitt, by no means a world beater but a solid club man. Read somewhere (here maybe) that he was on £100,000 a year. If true that is some money to throw at a second row.

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Post by Coleman Fri May 01, 2015 12:44 pm

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/jamie-roberts-agrees-harlequins-deal-9161501

Roberts is off to Quins. Not really bothered, he didn't play for us a lot before and he wouldn't have this time either.

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Post by Chunky Norwich Fri May 01, 2015 12:45 pm

Coleman wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/jamie-roberts-agrees-harlequins-deal-9161501

Roberts is off to Quins. Not really bothered, he didn't play for us a lot before and he wouldn't have this time either.

So Gatland's Law will be enforced here then right?

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Post by Guest Fri May 01, 2015 1:42 pm

Chunky Norwich wrote:
Coleman wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/jamie-roberts-agrees-harlequins-deal-9161501

Roberts is off to Quins. Not really bothered, he didn't play for us a lot before and he wouldn't have this time either.

So Gatland's Law will be enforced here then right?


...as opposed to when he was at Racing?

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Post by dragon4life Fri May 01, 2015 11:34 pm

I think he was under contract at Racing before Gatlands law was in place. I think Gatlands law takes place once you sign a contract after the law was made. But we all know Roberts is going to play as he'll be 'extreme circumstances'

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Post by wayne Sat May 02, 2015 7:47 pm

Blues fans, is it true that Patchell has SIGNED a pre contract with the Scarlets for the season after next, they would have had him for next season but the Blues wouldn't release him early, that is the rumour I'm hearing.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat May 02, 2015 9:56 pm

No such thing as Gatlands law while there is still the 'exceptional circumstances' clause.
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Post by Guest Sat May 02, 2015 10:18 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:No such thing as Gatlands law while there is still the 'exceptional circumstances' clause.

Completely agree. I've said over and over on here in recent years (as has Bedford) that there is no Gatland law that says he won't pick players outside Wales. He's always maintained that where he has two players playing equally well, one in Wales and one outside, the Wales based player is likely to get the nod as he will be able to monitor him more; influence his conditioning, etc. at the region; have extended training camps outside the international window; etc. With Roberts I imagine Gatland will argue that no other Welsh 12 is playing the crash ball role like Roberts so he gets the nod as he will serve the role that Gatland wants. Scott Williams is in form but does not play in the same way as Roberts. There are similarities, but not the same. So Gatland will be justified in picking him in the absences of a direct replacement.

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Post by The Saint Sun May 03, 2015 12:18 am

Gats loves his first XV and Justin Tipuric, that's just the way it is.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun May 03, 2015 7:46 am

The Saint wrote:Gats loves his first XV and Justin Tipuric, that's just the way it is.

And why wouldn't he, overall they have served him well and he has made little 'tweaks' here and there when required such as Webb, Biggar given a good run and Li Williams. He has never been afraid to give youngsters a go either.

Griff,

On the Roberts theme I half expect him to retire after the WC and concentrate of his medical carear and with that in mind and despite Tyler Morgan being on a DC I think Dixon would fit the role of Roberts quite well and think he might be given few chances in that role.
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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 9:03 am

wayne wrote:Blues fans, is it true that Patchell has SIGNED a pre contract with the Scarlets for the season after next, they would have had him for next season but the Blues wouldn't release him early, that is the rumour I'm hearing.

Would probably be a good move for him, they need a new 10, and he might actually get game time there

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 9:38 am

I think Patchell would do very well at the Scarlets. I had very high hopes for him based on his performances when he first broke through. Shame he's been shifted about and dropped for Anscombe, who I don't think is any better from what I've seen.

Patchell will suit the Scarlets running rugby style of play too I think. I thought he could go on to be a good wales 10 in time, and I think the Scarlets could get him back on the path to that.

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Post by Guest Sun May 03, 2015 11:54 am

Griff wrote:I think Patchell would do very well at the Scarlets. I had very high hopes for him based on his performances when he first broke through. Shame he's been shifted about and dropped for Anscombe, who I don't think is any better from what I've seen.

Patchell will suit the Scarlets running rugby style of play too I think. I thought he could go on to be a good wales 10 in time, and I think the Scarlets could get him back on the path to that.

Patchell's issue is consistency, but I think he just needs a run of games as hes still a young player. Not sure how good he is at running Rugby, but hes a quick player and is not too shabby at offloading so he has potential.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun May 03, 2015 1:16 pm

I actually think S Shingler has looked good in the games he's had this season. I wasn't bothered one bit when all the fuss about him wanting to play for Scotland came about and think he should have been able to go.

Now what with Priestland going after the WC I would think it would be good for him to have an extended steady run and try prove himself.
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Post by Cardiff Dave Mon May 11, 2015 8:25 pm

Danny Wilson it is then. Or is it? Who knows?
But whoever it is, I hope THEY let him (or her) get on with IT.

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Post by The Saint Mon May 11, 2015 9:02 pm

Shouldn't Wilson just be forwards coach? Otherwise, I think Anscombe would be a better option. But he's probably afraid given your treatment of good coaches lately.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Tue May 12, 2015 8:05 am

I don't think many of us on here will know what really went on but certain rumours are that player power was what got rid of Hammett, they didn't like they way he was doing things and how hard he was training/pushing them.

If that is the case I doubt Anscombe will work either, if the players aren't man enough to deal with new coaching techniques or cope with a bit of hard work then any new coach will struggle.

Whoever comes in the board needs to back 110% and if the players throw toys out of cot and complain then tell them to suck it up and get on with it or get rid.
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Post by XR Tue May 12, 2015 9:03 am

Player Power? Who knew Matthew Rees and Lou Reed were so influential!

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Post by Guest Tue May 12, 2015 9:19 am

I dont understand why players wouldn't want to work hard though, unless they're happy with losing every game

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Post by XR Tue May 12, 2015 9:40 am

They're just happy being in starbucks by 12 every day.

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gcBlues wrote:Player Power? Who knew Matthew Rees and Lou Reed were so influential!

Well they do say that the first Velvet Underground album didn't sell well, but everyone who bought it went on to form a band.

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