Cardiff Blues Season Thread 3 - Danny Wilson Appointed Head Coach

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Prop
Gethin Jenkins, Taufa'ao Filise, Craig Mitchell, Sam Hobbs, Scott Andrews, Thomas Davies, Dillon Lewis

Hooker
Matthew Rees, Kristian Dacey, Rhys Williams, Ethan Lewis

2nd Row
Jarrad Hoeata, James Down, Lou Reed, Chris Dicomidis, Miles Normandale

Flanker
Sam Warburton, Josh Turnbull, Macauley Cook, Ellis Jenkins, Josh Navidi, Jevon Groves, Ben Roach

Eight
Manoa Vosawai

Scrum half
Tavis Knoyle, Lloyd Williams, Lewis Jones, Tomos Williams

Fly half
Rhys Patchell, Gareth Anscombe, Gareth Davies, Jarrod Evans, Will Thomas

Centre
Cory Allen, Gavin Evans, Richard Smith, Tom Pascoe, Adam Thomas, Garyn Smith, Ray Lee-Lo

Wing
Alex Cuthbert, Harry Davies, Owen Jenkins, Chris Knight, Tom Williams, Tom James

Full back
Blaine Scully, Dan Fish, Geraint Walsh, Aled Summerhill

[XR]

Matthew Rees i can accept as waving a bit of power but Lou Reed? Come on.

[Coleman]

Has Rees been offered another year? I thought this was his last year.

[Cardiff Dave]

Shouldn't Wilson just be forwards coach? Otherwise, I think Anscombe would be a better option. But he's probably afraid given your treatment of good coaches lately.

Dunno actually. As I understand it, Cardiff Blues are looking to replace the bloke who left recently.

[Coleman]

Seven players confirmed out:
Amorosino
Tuculet
Breeze
Paulo
Humberstone
Rees
A. Jones

We knew about all of these. I wasnt sure about Rees but now we know for certain. Was hoping a few more would be on the list when I saw the release. Hopefully a few more to follow.

[Guest]

Good that they're getting rid of the some of the dead weight.

What happened to Marc Breeze? He looked pretty good a couple of seasons ago

[The Saint]

I heard recently on here about Rees, and today it was confirmed on the radio. If the rumours are true that he was behind the revolt against Hammett, then it's for the best that he leave. Those two Argentinians were very handy players though.

Who else are you hoping will leave?

[Cardiff Dave]

I heard recently on here about Rees, and today it was confirmed on the radio. If the rumours are true that he was behind the revolt against Hammett, then it's for the best that he leave. Those two Argentinians were very handy players though.

Who else are you hoping will leave?

I'm tempted.

[Cardiff Dave]

Does Merthyr RFC have its own Pieman?

[LordDowlais]

Does Merthyr RFC have its own Pieman?

No.

[Cardiff Dave]

Does Merthyr RFC have its own Pieman?

No.

What's all this about then LD?

Simon Thomas ‏@simonrug 14h14 hours ago
Fascinating development plans for Merthyr RFC. An exciting future ahead.

Merthyr RFC
‏@RFCMerthyr
@simonrug indeed a lot of hard work going on behind the scenes hopefully some big news coming from the club very soon.

[LordDowlais]

Does Merthyr RFC have its own Pieman?

No.

What's all this about then LD?

Simon Thomas ‏@simonrug 14h14 hours ago
Fascinating development plans for Merthyr RFC. An exciting future ahead.

Merthyr RFC
‏@RFCMerthyr
@simonrug indeed a lot of hard work going on behind the scenes hopefully some big news coming from the club very soon.

a valleys region.

[Cardiff Dave]

Does Merthyr RFC have its own Pieman?

No.

What's all this about then LD?

Simon Thomas ‏@simonrug 14h14 hours ago
Fascinating development plans for Merthyr RFC. An exciting future ahead.

Merthyr RFC
‏@RFCMerthyr
@simonrug indeed a lot of hard work going on behind the scenes hopefully some big news coming from the club very soon.

a valleys region.

Is the Pieman's bro involved?

[LordDowlais]

Is the Pieman's bro involved?

He is not Peters brother Peters brother is Sir Stanley Thomas. He lives in Guernsey or Jersey now I think.

[ScarletSpiderman]

Does Merthyr RFC have its own Pieman?

No.

What's all this about then LD?

Simon Thomas ‏@simonrug 14h14 hours ago
Fascinating development plans for Merthyr RFC. An exciting future ahead.

Merthyr RFC
‏@RFCMerthyr
@simonrug indeed a lot of hard work going on behind the scenes hopefully some big news coming from the club very soon.

a valleys region.

Or is it that they are going to be the home ground for the Blues A team

[Coleman]

At the risk of turning this thread in to a war zone. What are the chances that Ponty have forced the issue to the point where the Blues will no longer allocate players to them and that they will drop them in to Merthyr? I'm always keen to stress that the region doesn't stop at Taffs Well so if we are looking for another team to expose players to game time it cannot be in Cardiff (Glam/Rumney). Issues that may arrise. Do Merthyr have an A Licence? Do we even have a good relationship with Merthyr?

[LordDowlais]

Do Merthyr have an A Licence? Do we even have a good relationship with Merthyr?

No Merthyr do not have an A licence, but they meet the criteria for one, they just have not applied, and yes there is a good relationship between Merthyr and the Blues, but I think that Cardiff Blues would rather their players be playing in Welsh prem not Div 1.

[Coleman]

Merthyr are in the Championship so only one promotion away from the Prem. If the higher ups wanted to force the issue (i'm not saying they should, i'm just playing Devil's advocate) they could help them do that with a raft of young Blues academy players. Honestly all this tension between Ponty and the Blues is good for no one and the Blues are under represented in the Prem in my opinion. Cardiff and Ponty (who "hate" the Blues). We could benifit by helping another team within the region in to the top flight.

[Cardiff Dave]

Is the Pieman's bro involved?

He is not Peters brother Peters brother is Sir Stanley Thomas. He lives in Guernsey or Jersey now I think.

Ah right. Didn't know that.
Anyway what's the exciting news re Merthyr RFC?

[LordDowlais]

Is the Pieman's bro involved?

He is not Peters brother Peters brother is Sir Stanley Thomas. He lives in Guernsey or Jersey now I think.

Ah right. Didn't know that.
Anyway what's the exciting news re Merthyr RFC?

I dunno, but I will ask about during the week and let you know.

[LordDowlais]

Merthyr are in the Championship so only one promotion away from the Prem. If the higher ups wanted to force the issue (i'm not saying they should, i'm just playing Devil's advocate) they could help them do that with a raft of young Blues academy players. Honestly all this tension between Ponty and the Blues is good for no one and the Blues are under represented in the Prem in my opinion. Cardiff and Ponty (who "hate" the Blues). We could benifit by helping another team within the region in to the top flight.

Sorry, I meant championship, the one down from the premiership if Merthyr were ever in a position for promotion, I reckon they would have no issue for an A license and if they were to get in the Premiership then the Blues could very well put players there instead of Ponty, but I just think that Ponty are a little bit further down the road with their set-up an coaching and the what not, I think they are a little more professional than Merthyr, but that could easily change.

[Guest]

Are you living under a rock Dowlais? Thought with your connections, you'd know? Maybe if you stop asking supporters at games inane questions, you might learn a bit.

http://publicaccess.merthyr.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NLO6VIKQIR800

[Coleman]

That is a big upgrade in facilities. I'd like to see the Blues play a game or two up in Merthyr. It's a big town and we could be doing more to promote the region up there.

[Cardiff Dave]

That is a big upgrade in facilities. I'd like to see the Blues play a game or two up in Merthyr. It's a big town and we could be doing more to promote the region up there.

Jeez! Not even built yet and you want us to go walkabout. I guess BT would have to be consulted first. And the other organisations who have advertising boards at CAP. And....
Lots to consider when shifting games to a different venue.

[Cardiff Dave]

Are you living under a rock Dowlais? Thought with your connections, you'd know? Maybe if you stop asking supporters at games inane questions, you might learn a bit.

http://publicaccess.merthyr.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NLO6VIKQIR800

A sizeable investment i'd say. Will be great for Merthyr.

[Cardiff Dave]

At the risk of turning this thread in to a war zone. What are the chances that Ponty have forced the issue to the point where the Blues will no longer allocate players to them and that they will drop them in to Merthyr? I'm always keen to stress that the region doesn't stop at Taffs Well so if we are looking for another team to expose players to game time it cannot be in Cardiff (Glam/Rumney). Issues that may arrise. Do Merthyr have an A Licence? Do we even have a good relationship with Merthyr?

?

[Coleman]

The issues are after that. Bad place for a full stop. I understand that the facilities arent built but we could knock out a pre season game at the Cig-E stadium or w/e it's called.

[LordDowlais]

Are you living under a rock Dowlais? Thought with your connections, you'd know? Maybe if you stop asking supporters at games inane questions, you might learn a bit.

http://publicaccess.merthyr.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=NLO6VIKQIR800

Trolling me again Risca ? Cheers.

Also, I am not just saying this now, but everybody and their dog up here knew the Wern was going to be upgraded, I thought this other news that was mentioned was about something else. That is what I was going to ask before I committed to anything on here because I am fed up of being made to prove myself all the time.

[Guest]

You are just saying it now though. What other news would there be?

[Cardiff Dave]

The issues are after that. Bad place for a full stop. I understand that the facilities arent built but we could knock out a pre season game at the Cig-E stadium or w/e it's called.

Baby steps. I reckon an A fixture to start with. On a Friday evening say. What time is the last train to Cardiff from Merthyr I wonder?

[Cardiff Dave]

"Hotel and flats plan for Cardiff's Millennium Stadium.

"The multi-million pound scheme has been in the pipeline since 2007 but the global financial crisis delayed it."

Ha! Similar scheme, but a very different location back in 2007 though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-32887322

[Guest]

Are Cardiff RFC, or Cardiff running club, or whoever you are, going to put the kibosh or this?! It might interfere with your business, as you're joined at the hip

[Cardiff Dave]

Are Cardiff RFC, or Cardiff running club, or whoever you are, going to put the kibosh or this?! It might interfere with your business, as you're joined at the hip  

From the pic of Dodger and the 3D model, the proposed development doesn't intrude on CAP.

[Coleman]

Are Cardiff RFC, or Cardiff running club, or whoever you are, going to put the kibosh or this?! It might interfere with your business, as you're joined at the hip  

From the pic of Dodger and the 3D model, the proposed development doesn't intrude on CAP.

Would it create an issue for the redevelopment of the Arms Park site if the rumours about a new stadium with flats, a hotel and casino are true? Would the council allow two similar developments in such close proximity?

[ScarletSpiderman]

I'm guessing after last night Danny Wilson and Mr Holley will be available sooner rather than later.

[LordDowlais]

"Hotel and flats plan for Cardiff's Millennium Stadium.

"The multi-million pound scheme has been in the pipeline since 2007 but the global financial crisis delayed it."

Ha! Similar scheme, but a very different location back in 2007 though.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-32887322

They must be doing this to fit the criteria for hosting a Pro12 final.

[Cardiff Dave]

Are Cardiff RFC, or Cardiff running club, or whoever you are, going to put the kibosh or this?! It might interfere with your business, as you're joined at the hip  

From the pic of Dodger and the 3D model, the proposed development doesn't intrude on CAP.

Would it create an issue for the redevelopment of the Arms Park site if the rumours about a new stadium with flats, a hotel and casino are true? Would the council allow two similar developments in such close proximity?

Blydi 'ell i'd forgotten about the plans for a new CAP. Don't know x 2 in answer to your questions although if there's wonga to be made for some.... nudge, nudge I getchya.
I see the plans for CAP include office space too. Yeah we need more of this, NOT.

[SecretFly]

Dodger and the 3D model.

???



That should be a Dedicated Thread Heading all by itself.

[Coleman]

I'd like for us to follow the WASP's model if we do redevelop. Earn as much from other avenues as possible and keep the ticket prices down. Also a new stadium would be nice. not that it'a not charming now.

[Cardiff Dave]

Are Cardiff RFC, or Cardiff running club, or whoever you are, going to put the kibosh or this?! It might interfere with your business, as you're joined at the hip  

Cardiff RFC (or Blues if you like) pay rent to the "running club" CAC for use of CAP and the proposed development for this site has nowt to do with the WRU proposal as far as I can tell. The latter only involves the area between the MS and Westgate Street.

[Cardiff Dave]

Dodger and the 3D model.

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That should be a Dedicated Thread Heading all by itself.  

Aye and I typed "Dodger and the model" initially.

[Cardiff Dave]

I'd like for us to follow the WASP's model if we do redevelop. Earn as much from other avenues as possible and keep the ticket prices down. Also a new stadium would be nice. not that it'a not charming now.

Homes Under the Hammer, an Arms Park special!

[Cardiff Dave]

I'm guessing after last night Danny Wilson and Mr Holley will be available sooner rather than later.

That'll be the day.

[ScarletSpiderman]

I'm guessing after last night Danny Wilson and Mr Holley will be available sooner rather than later.

That'll be the day.

Just wishful thinking, as then he will hopefully disappear from scrum v live.

But I hear Danny Wilson is due is interview back end of next week.

[Cardiff Dave]

I'm guessing after last night Danny Wilson and Mr Holley will be available sooner rather than later.

That'll be the day.

Just wishful thinking, as then he will hopefully disappear from scrum v live.

But I hear Danny Wilson is due is interview back end of next week.

ChumV can disappear in its entirety if you ask me. Ran its course imho. Need a new show. Maybe two. One for the pro teams and another for WRU and the rest. Pundits from outside the crazy Welsh bubble would be a refreshing change too I think. In fact anybody who will call a spade, a spade will do.
Glad to hear that DW is being interviewed. Not convinced however that Uncle Pete is the bloke we should have in captaining the ship. So much water under the bridge and now we have another property development thing going on.

[Coleman]

Wales Onlines says we're monitoring the Matthew Morgan situation. 

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-blues-monitor-matthew-morgan-9349414

Where does he fit in? I like him as an attacking fullback or even a wing. But we have two promising flyhalfs/fullbacks. We don't need a third. Maybe Danny Wilson brings him in if we sign him. Could that open the door to Ian Evans. We need a second row.

[ScarletSpiderman]

Wales Onlines says we're monitoring the Matthew Morgan situation. 

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-blues-monitor-matthew-morgan-9349414

Where does he fit in? I like him as an attacking fullback or even a wing. But we have two promising flyhalfs/fullbacks. We don't need a third. Maybe Danny Wilson brings him in if we sign him. Could that open the door to Ian Evans. We need a second row.

I have heard talk elsewhere that Ianto could follow Wilson to the Blues, which would suit him and you. But personally I think you would be throwing money down the drain going for Morgan, unless Patchell has said outright that he is off at the end of his contract (I have heard talk of a deal in principle being signed to join elsewhere end of the contract).

[LordDowlais]

All the talk that I have heard is that Patchell is going to end up at Scarlets when his contract is up, and who can blame him they way he is being treated to try and shoe horn in a substandard Kiwi come Welshman who has been given a DC.

I have watched both the final playoffs between Bristol and Worcester and in the first game in particular Nipper was the cause of the loss. His defending was non existant and players were just running through him, when Nicky Robinson came on Bristol looked a lot better. Yes Matthew Morgan is a delight to watch with the ball in hand, but when he has not got the ball he is a liability. For me Matthew Morgan is a luxury player, a nice player to bring on if you want a bonus point or something, unless he bulks up a bit, he will be nothing more than a good club player, to go that extra step, he needs to work very hard on his weaknesses.

[wales606]

Wales Onlines says we're monitoring the Matthew Morgan situation. 

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/cardiff-blues-monitor-matthew-morgan-9349414

Where does he fit in? I like him as an attacking fullback or even a wing. But we have two promising flyhalfs/fullbacks. We don't need a third. Maybe Danny Wilson brings him in if we sign him. Could that open the door to Ian Evans. We need a second row.

I have heard talk elsewhere that Ianto could follow Wilson to the Blues, which would suit him and you.  But personally I think you would be throwing money down the drain going for Morgan, unless Patchell has said outright that he is off at the end of his contract (I have heard talk of a deal in principle being signed to join elsewhere end of the contract).

Patchell will be off apparently.

I don't think it is a waste to bring in Morgan. At the moment the only 10s or FBs of any quality we have are Anscombe and Patchell. Patchell seems to spend most of the season injured as well.

Morgan would be a useful 1st/2nd choice fullback and 2nd/3rd choice Flyhalf. Pretty sure he would make the 23 every week even when everyone is fit.

[Coleman]

I agree Morgan is a luxury. I'd be very disapointed if we are losing Patchell. He's not had a fair crack at the whip so i can see why he'd like to leave. I just think we have more pressing concerns than flyhalf. Also if we have all of these young developing flyhalfs we need someone to help develop them. Shame Steven Jones is off to the Scarlets.

[Cardiff Dave]

Mmmm, how very CCS...

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