Sly vs Arnie - The Top 20 !!

1. Predator............
2. Rocky...............
3. First Blood........
4. Terminator.......
5. Terminator 2....
6. Total Recall......
7. The Running man...
8. Nighthawks.........
9. Rocky 3.......
10. True Lies....
11. Commando
12. Demolition Man
13. Conan the Barbarian...
14. D-Tox......
15. The Expendables....
16. Raw Deal..........
17. Cop Land...
18. Cliffhanger...
19. Twins....
20. Jingle all the way...........

6-4 to Arnie in Top 10's .............With for me the number 1 movie..........Very close with Rocky....

11-9 Arnie overall..........................Subjective for sure..

I won't do a list, but films I liked that are missing are, Lock Up, Over The Top, and Red Heat.

Jingle All The Way, is a joke I'm guessing?

You're putting "The Running Man" above "Demolition Man"?

Shut the fridge door on your way out.

Stella wrote:I won't do a list, but films I liked that are missing are, Lock Up, Over The Top, and Red Heat.

Jingle All The Way, is a joke I'm guessing?

I thought Cobra, Over the Top and red heat were complete s**te ............Poor production values for the first two.....Haven't put Tango and Cash on there either..

Each to their own..............I have D-Tox at 12 and most people hate that.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

Stella wrote:I won't do a list, but films I liked that are missing are, Lock Up, Over The Top, and Red Heat.

Jingle All The Way, is a joke I'm guessing?

I thought Cobra, Over the Top and red heat were complete s**te ............Poor production values for the first two.....Haven't put Tango and Cash on there either..

Each to their own..............I have D-Tox at 12 and most people hate that.

Oh yes!

I'd have Rocky II as well, top 5 maybe.

Rocky 2 for me with Rocky 5 are the two worst of the series..........

To be honest I overlooked Rocky Balboa..............But it's not a big omission............A bit too far fetched.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Rocky 2 for me with Rocky 5 are the two worst of the series..........

To be honest I overlooked Rocky Balboa..............But it's not a big omission............A bit too far fetched.

Not sure you can throw that line around too casually with some of the nonsense that makes your top 20, but seeing as you are, I'll stick "Daylight" in there

Boring film..

Yet you put D-Tox in there???

What's up big fella, the Didsbury 2nd eleven been blocking your driveway again?

DAVE667 wrote:Yet you put D-Tox in there???

What's up big fella, the Didsbury 2nd eleven been blocking your driveway again?

Constant reference to homosexuality does you no favors....

D-Tox was a good movie.............Editing was shocking but still.............

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Yet you put D-Tox in there???

What's up big fella, the Didsbury 2nd eleven been blocking your driveway again?

Constant reference to homosexuality does you no favors....

D-Tox was a good movie.............Editing was shocking but still.............

Just as well the constant references to the Didsbury 2nd Eleven refer to you being cuckolded by your good lady.

You talk about the art of a good horror/suspense film citing The Fog as an example (oh well, but I digress...) and then say D-Tox was a good film. A little consistency would be nice...over and above always talking nonsense

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Yet you put D-Tox in there???

What's up big fella, the Didsbury 2nd eleven been blocking your driveway again?

Constant reference to homosexuality does you no favors....

D-Tox was a good movie.............Editing was shocking but still.............

Just as well the constant references to the Didsbury 2nd Eleven refer to you being cuckolded by your good lady.

You talk about the art of a good horror/suspense film citing The Fog as an example (oh well, but I digress...) and then say D-Tox was a good film. A little consistency would be nice...over and above always talking nonsense

I fail to see the contradiction....

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Yet you put D-Tox in there???

What's up big fella, the Didsbury 2nd eleven been blocking your driveway again?

Constant reference to homosexuality does you no favors....

D-Tox was a good movie.............Editing was shocking but still.............

Just as well the constant references to the Didsbury 2nd Eleven refer to you being cuckolded by your good lady.

You talk about the art of a good horror/suspense film citing The Fog as an example (oh well, but I digress...) and then say D-Tox was a good film. A little consistency would be nice...over and above always talking nonsense

I fail to see the contradiction....

And therein lies your fundamental problem big fella

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Yet you put D-Tox in there???

What's up big fella, the Didsbury 2nd eleven been blocking your driveway again?

Constant reference to homosexuality does you no favors....

D-Tox was a good movie.............Editing was shocking but still.............

Just as well the constant references to the Didsbury 2nd Eleven refer to you being cuckolded by your good lady.

You talk about the art of a good horror/suspense film citing The Fog as an example (oh well, but I digress...) and then say D-Tox was a good film. A little consistency would be nice...over and above always talking nonsense

I fail to see the contradiction....

And therein lies your fundamental problem big fella

Didn't think you'd want to expand on your statement...

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

DAVE667 wrote:Yet you put D-Tox in there???

What's up big fella, the Didsbury 2nd eleven been blocking your driveway again?

Constant reference to homosexuality does you no favors....

D-Tox was a good movie.............Editing was shocking but still.............

Just as well the constant references to the Didsbury 2nd Eleven refer to you being cuckolded by your good lady.

You talk about the art of a good horror/suspense film citing The Fog as an example (oh well, but I digress...) and then say D-Tox was a good film. A little consistency would be nice...over and above always talking nonsense

I fail to see the contradiction....

And therein lies your fundamental problem big fella

Didn't think you'd want to expand on your statement...

Probably too many big words for ya...however, the ability to edit a film properly can be the difference between successfully building tension and giving the game away far too early. Figured out the bad guy in D-Tox early doors and the rest of the film was an exercise in pointlessness. You say it was edited badly but it's still a good film?

I kind of agree and disagree with you both.

I can see what Dave is saying but at the same time you can have a poorly edited/ directed film but it still be good.

Take Tarrantino. Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs are lauded as modern day classics but for me, are not brilliantly shot or put together.

However, take a QT script and give it to a proper film maker in Tony Scott, and you get True Romance which beats every other QT film aesthetically. 

All three are great films but only one is also brilliantly produced.

I havent seen D-Tox so cant really offer up much!

And just because a film is not critically lauded, doesnt mean that its a poor film.

My offering of a film which is poorly made on all levels but has a great script and heart, and is better than the Terminator is TRANCERS.

The Specialist?

Assassins?

Escape to Victory!!!

legendkillarV2 wrote:The Specialist?

Assassins?

Boring movies...........Though I will say The specialist was the best Stallone's physique has ever been in a movie...

He looked awesome...........Same with Arnie in Commando !!

Escape to Victory..............Cheesy movie..

No Kindergarten Cop?

How dare you!

No... Junior... either ...Womble...........

Worst Arnie film has to be End of Days.......Awful !!.. I turned it off..

Oscar is the worst for Stallone..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:No... Junior... either ...Womble...........

Worst Arnie film has to be End of Days.......Awful !!.. I turned it off..

Oscar is the worst for Stallone..

Worse than Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:The Specialist?

Assassins?

Boring movies...........Though I will say The specialist was the best Stallone's physique has ever been in a movie...

He looked awesome...........Same with Arnie in Commando !!

Escape to Victory..............Cheesy movie..

But James Woods!

legendkillarV2 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:The Specialist?

Assassins?

Boring movies...........Though I will say The specialist was the best Stallone's physique has ever been in a movie...

He looked awesome...........Same with Arnie in Commando !!

Escape to Victory..............Cheesy movie..

But James Woods!

Republican b**tard......Thought he was Over-the-top If you pardon the pun..

The list is subjective.............i can understand people having different taste....

NightHawks is a great movie and well deserved on this list.

For what it is worth, I enjoyed what Oscar was trying to be.

Okay, here is my top 12 in no particular order - it turns out there are 6 each!:

First Blood
Rocky II
Total Recall
NightHawks
The Running Man
True Lies
Demolition Man
CliffHanger
Rocky Balboa
The Running Man
Predator
Terminator II

My top 12 faves are as follows, but I've done mine as 6 each. You shouldn't pit them against each other - they're mates!

Sly:
1. First Blood
2. Rocky
3. Demolition Man
4. Rocky 3
5. Copland
6. Cliffhanger

Arnie:

1. Predator
2. The Terminator
3. Terminator 2
4. The Running Man
5. Twins
6. True Lies

I kinda liked demolition Man but found it a little boring in parts......

If Commando had been 60 minutes long and finished after that superb black girl who took a great part bazooka'd that police truck.........

It would have been my favorite film of the lot.........Ending killed that movie..

Copland I found turgid..........Waste of great actors..

First blood was terrific.........The others I found dreadful........

Sky top 5

I'm only going to put one of the franchises in, ie rocky and terminator 2, rather than filling sly's up with rocky films.

Rocky
First Blood
Cliffhanger
Lock Up

Arnie Top 5

Terminator 2
Predator
True Lies
Twins
Commando

Have they made Twins 2 yet ??