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Post by yappysnap Wed 11 Feb 2015, 10:45 am

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ENGLAND v ITALY
14 February 2015
KO: 14:30
Twickenham Stadium

Referee: John Lacey (IRFU)
AR1: Pascal Gauzere (FFR)
AR2: Mike Fraser (NZR)
TMO: George Ayoub (ARU)

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So England have confirmed an unchanged squad after Parling is still ruled out injured.

ENGLAND's 23

Starting XV: Mike Brown (Harlequins), Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby). George Ford (Bath Rugby), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby), George Kruis (Saracens), James Haskell (Wasps), Chris Robshaw (captain, Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens).

Replacements: Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Kieran Brookes (Newcastle Falcons), Nick Easter (Harlequins), Tom Croft (Leicester Tigers), Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens), Danny Cipriani (Sale Sharks), Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby).

ITALY
Luke McLean; Leonardo Sarto, Luca Morisi, Andrea Masi, Giovanbattista Venditti; Kelly Haimona, Edoardo Gori; Alberto DeMarchi, Leonardo Ghiraldini, Martin Castrogiovanni; George Biagi, Marco Bortolami; Francesco Minto, Mauro Bergamasco, Sergio Parisse.
Replacements: Andrea Manici, Matias Aguero, Dario Chistolini, Joshua Furno, Samuela Vunisa, Guglielmo Palazzani, Tommaso Allan, Giulio Bisegni


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:03 pm

That was better May, such an infuriating player. He goes from the sublime to the ridiculous

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Post by Liam Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:04 pm

Basics letting Italy down again unfortunately

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:04 pm

We want 50
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:04 pm

He's done nothing apart from his try against the AB's to be fair.

I not a May fan in the slightest but that was nice.

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:04 pm

i know. joseph has only scored against cr4p opposition... boxing

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Post by Hood83 Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:04 pm

Nathan you must admit Youngs has not had a good game.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:05 pm

Dads army
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Post by Heaf Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:06 pm

quinsforever wrote:nice try.

ref does need to start pinging the italian slowing down and not rolling away now. its starting to be a bit too obvious for me.

They've been hanging around on the wrong side of the ruck all day and interfering with the 9 ...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:06 pm

Youngs has played ok, not his best game but steady.

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:06 pm

easter. love love love it.

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:07 pm

supersubs england...as i predicted Wink

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Post by Geordie Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:07 pm

Tom Youngs has been very prominent in the tight exchanges and tackling since he came on.
I really think he's well ahead of Hartley in that at the moment.

He looks more aggressive and combative.

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Post by nathan Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:07 pm

Hood83 wrote:Nathan you must admit Youngs has not had a good game.

He's not been at his best, but to say he's had a bad game is rubbish

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Post by The Saint Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:07 pm

English thrashings against Italy are becoming a bit too routine. The Italians need to sort their rugby out. Brunel surely has a worse record than his predecessor by now.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:08 pm

This could all be a bit of a false dawn, we haven't played anyone any good yet this six nations.
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Post by Steve_rugby Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:08 pm

The Saint wrote:Ashton - 4 tries against Italy and hailed as best in the world. Few weeks later disappears.

Amazing how some fans let things go to their heads.

What's that got to do with this match ? Headscratch

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:08 pm

Cips kicking is awful, bring back Farrell!

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:08 pm

This could all be a bit of a false dawn, we haven't played anyone any good yet this six nations.
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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:08 pm

TightHEAD wrote:We want 50

Be a shock if not more like 60 and no disrespect to Italy as you guys are the only team they not beaten but that's what teams need to do against them, as again I feel there will be no slam won this year so it we decided by points diff.
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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:09 pm

TightHEAD wrote:This could all be a bit of a false dawn, we haven't played anyone any good yet this six nations.

Well not for full 80 anyway Wink
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Post by Geordie Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:09 pm

Tweveltrees has been solid today...but I still cringe at the amount of tackles he falls off...too many for this level.

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Post by The Saint Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:09 pm

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The Saint wrote:Ashton - 4 tries against Italy and hailed as best in the world. Few weeks later disappears.

Amazing how some fans let things go to their heads.

What's that got to do with this match ? Headscratch

Nothing I guess. It's just last week I said I could see May becoming the next Ashton, hence the reference.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:09 pm

That last try was a great example of a try that shouldn't have been awarded as there was a new maul being formed and thus player in front of the ball carrier.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:10 pm

Ireland will give us a test, if we start like we have the last two games then we will be in trouble.
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Post by Guest Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:10 pm

TightHEAD wrote:This could all be a bit of a false dawn, we haven't played anyone any good yet this six nations.

Just remember that if you do the grand slam and try to claim it as a great achievement! Wink

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:11 pm

VinceWLB wrote:That last try was a great example of a try that shouldn't have been awarded as there was a new maul being formed and thus player in front of the ball carrier.

It wasn't a new maul. The Italian defence sheared off so it carried on.


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Post by nathan Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:11 pm

Cips needs to work on his kicking, running game is good though

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:11 pm

not sure why 36 and cips are kicking for territory at this stage. run everything. italy are very tired.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:12 pm

Sort the opening quarter out, England!

Ireland will annihilate the Red Rose if Lancaster's lads begin like they have against Wales and Italy. And it appears to be a long-term problem, having happened for the past three years on multiple occasions!

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:13 pm

VinceWLB wrote:That last try was a great example of a try that shouldn't have been awarded as there was a new maul being formed and thus player in front of the ball carrier.
hilarious. and obviously that would change the outcome of the match.

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:14 pm

We want 50
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Post by nathan Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:14 pm

What a fluff by Italy, good build up though

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:14 pm

great tackle watson there!

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Post by Steve_rugby Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:14 pm

Great tackle by Watson to stop the try.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:15 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:That last try was a great example of a try that shouldn't have been awarded as there was a new maul being formed and thus player in front of the ball carrier.

It was a new maul. The Italian defence sheared off e from so it carried on.

But n°20 tried to stop it, so there was an obstruction and a penalty should have been awarded to Italia. There is too much room for interpretation around the maul i grant you.

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Post by Heaf Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:15 pm

FecklessRogue wrote:Irish commentator's just mentioned Italy would be three points up if their kicker had taken his kicks. He's missed four. Not good enough for this level.

False argument as the game changes if you kick a penalty due to the restart but I don't follow his maths either? Plus what about the England missed kicks?

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:15 pm

On another day italy could have won this, england have just been a bit soft in defence.
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Post by Breadvan Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:15 pm

Have to tighten up in devence and be more clinical in attack in the first half hour in Dublin or it'll be another 2011 shooing.


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Post by Geordie Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:15 pm

Not the most complete performance by England. Defence was too loose and must be improved for the rest of the comp.

Have we seen the future England 15 in Watson...looks made for that position.

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:16 pm

"that's the two0 half-scots trying to combine to create something - dont say anything Brian" LOL

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:16 pm

VinceWLB wrote:
HammerofThunor wrote:
VinceWLB wrote:That last try was a great example of a try that shouldn't have been awarded as there was a new maul being formed and thus player in front of the ball carrier.

It was a new maul. The Italian defence sheared off e from so it carried on.

But n°20 tried to stop it, so there was an obstruction and a penalty should have been awarded to Italia. There is too much room for interpretation around the maul i grant you.

Sorry I had a typo. It wasn't a new maul. The Italian's sheared off rather than england breaking off, so it was the same maul and no obstruction.

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Post by nathan Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:16 pm

Breadvan wrote:Have to tighten up and be more clinical in attack in the first half hour in Dublin or it'll be another 2011 shooing.

I fear it will, we've gone of the boil again at the moment

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:17 pm

Watson is a better fullback than winger
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Post by Geordie Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:17 pm

Ah tackling again!!!!!!!!

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Post by TightHEAD Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:17 pm

Try get on with it!

Why the TMO?
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Post by nathan Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:17 pm

May should of done better there

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Post by The Saint Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:17 pm

May defending like Ashton there. Waiting for the May aplologists now.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:17 pm

Shocking by May

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Post by Steve_rugby Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:17 pm

Well played Italy

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Post by quinsforever Sat 14 Feb 2015, 4:18 pm

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