Duran vs Mayweather

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I'm ashamed I use to say Mayweather boxes Durans ears off.

Does he f..k. I have been watching a lot more old Duran fights and I have to say I would pick him to win a close fight with Floyd. I can't ignore the fights with Castillo and Maidana.

Floyd beat both guys but he did struggle with the aggressive style. Duran is more aggressive and a FAR more talented boxer than both guys.

Floyd is a wonderful boxer and no doubt he would more likely land the cleaner punches but Duran would out hustle him and win a decision in his prime.

The only threats for you Truss is the disease you might catch having your nose so far up Floyd's arse.

Your comments are meaningless. You're a pond life troll.

You should hook up with Hammer you seem to have a lot common. He can show you his grind core collection and you can show him your Peter North the early years VHS's.

Go watch some boxing, you might learn something Strongy, then again why bother when you're richer, smarter and more talented than every man on this planet.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Go watch some boxing, you might learn something Strongy, then again why bother when you're richer, smarter and more talented than every man on this planet.

What?!!! Even coxy?!!

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Go watch some boxing, you might learn something Strongy, then again why bother when you're richer, smarter and more talented than every man on this planet.

You're forgetting like Hatton-Mayweather......Tyson-Douglas....Honey-Starling...Dempsey-Tunney......Duran's aggressiveness would win him the fight....!!............Because Floyd wouldn't be doing anything as stupid as counterpunching when he comes in........

I have no idea how Robinson, Leonard types were so successful..............

I don't mind people picking Duran to win..........I've got it pickem...............But it's the same old look for the best qualities in fighter's we like and dismiss great fighters we don't !!..

Alter egos of the same deranged nutcase living in his mums basement.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:This is the point Chris made, idiots like Strongy will take the best performances of Duran and compare them with the worst of Mayweather because it suits their agenda.

The weight would make a difference, at lightweight where Duran was more consistent he'd be a slight favourite, above that the edge goes to Mayweather.

If Maidana is being mentioned then when why isn't Benitez, one of them embarrassed their opponent, the other one lost.

Chris is pro Mayweather so he makes that comment. Nobodies neutral on this forum.

Duran is a pressure fighter as is Castillo and Maidana. Duran is being compared to the pressure fighters Floyd has faced. Duran happens to be a much better pressure fighter than Castillo and Maidana both of who bullied Floyd around the ring.

Duran is an time great Top 10 with many observes that work for the established press. Matt McGrain has Floyd at No.47 in his ATG list. McGrain has forgotten more about boxing over his breakfast this morning than one trick pony Truss will ever know. As for you, you couldn't come close McGrain if you got a Boxrec chip inserted in your brain.

Strongback wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:This is the point Chris made, idiots like Strongy will take the best performances of Duran and compare them with the worst of Mayweather because it suits their agenda.

The weight would make a difference, at lightweight where Duran was more consistent he'd be a slight favourite, above that the edge goes to Mayweather.

If Maidana is being mentioned then when why isn't Benitez, one of them embarrassed their opponent, the other one lost.

Chris is pro Mayweather so he makes that comment. Nobodies neutral on this forum.

Duran is a pressure fighter as is Castillo and Maidana.  Duran is being compared to the pressure fighters Floyd has faced. Duran happens to be a much better pressure fighter than Castillo and Maidana both of who bullied Floyd around the ring.

Duran is an time great Top 10 with many observes that work for the established press.  Matt McGrain has Floyd at No.47 in his ATG list.  McGrain has forgotten more about boxing over his breakfast this morning than one trick pony Truss will ever know.  As for you, you couldn't come close McGrain if you got a Boxrec chip inserted in your brain.

Worse than Haz..for listings

Both supposedly bullied him round the ring and lost twice, whereas the skilled defensive master Benitez schooled Duran. Why not mention that fight or what about Kirkland Laing?

I think Duran wins but his historical placing has no relevance to a head to head. After all Robinson lost to Turpin, Basilio, Fullmer, LaMotta and Maxim, boxers not in the same stratosphere as him.

Strongback wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:This is the point Chris made, idiots like Strongy will take the best performances of Duran and compare them with the worst of Mayweather because it suits their agenda.

The weight would make a difference, at lightweight where Duran was more consistent he'd be a slight favourite, above that the edge goes to Mayweather.

If Maidana is being mentioned then when why isn't Benitez, one of them embarrassed their opponent, the other one lost.

Chris is pro Mayweather so he makes that comment. Nobodies neutral on this forum.

Duran is a pressure fighter as is Castillo and Maidana.  Duran is being compared to the pressure fighters Floyd has faced. Duran happens to be a much better pressure fighter than Castillo and Maidana both of who bullied Floyd around the ring.

Duran is an time great Top 10 with many observes that work for the established press.  Matt McGrain has Floyd at No.47 in his ATG list.  McGrain has forgotten more about boxing over his breakfast this morning than one trick pony Truss will ever know.  As for you, you couldn't come close McGrain if you got a Boxrec chip inserted in your brain.

I don't rate McGrain's knowledge of the sport in the slightest, every piece of his i've read places an abnormally high amount of emphasis on statistics, which is ironic considering your constant Boxrec jibes. Anybody that has Rocky Marciano at number three on a Heavyweight list I cannot take seriously.

Mcgrain has Hearns above Mayweather..

Langford at number 1.......Greb 2................Robbo 3..............

Sounds like a t*t no wonder Strongy quotes him..

Mayweather boxes in the little league compared to duran. Put mayweather in an era with duran, hearns, benitez, hagler and these guys and he probably takes up a different sport

catchweight wrote:Mayweather boxes in the little league compared to duran. Put mayweather in an era with duran, hearns, benitez, hagler and these guys and he probably takes up a different sport

Yep.......

Check out how many times Robinson fought. A loss was less important then especially when he was boozing and womanising his way around Europe.

Duran wasn't motivated. It happens look what happened to Laing. I'll take the opinion of people inside boxing when it comes to Duran not some Humpty who has a sh1te personality and can't help himself antagonising everybody.

Duran has probably the greatest win in the history of boxing when both fighters were at their peak.  Mayweather has fought nobody by comparison.  Duran makes mush out of Floyd's face.

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/09/is-floyd-mayweather-jr-a-top-60-pound-for-pound-all-time/

Thought I'd post this for strongy to quote next time truss asks him to name 50 fighters better than mayweather... You get 10 spare as well. Hagler top 10, monzon 30. The guy knows his stuff,

Strongy has a point about Chris... Always has an angle, sucking up to his favourites.

milkyboy wrote:http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/09/is-floyd-mayweather-jr-a-top-60-pound-for-pound-all-time/

Thought I'd post this for strongy to quote next time truss asks him to name 50 fighters better than mayweather... You get 10 spare as well. Hagler top 10, monzon 30. The guy knows his stuff,

Strongy has a point about Chris... Always has an angle, sucking up to his favourites.

Al Bernstein had Hagler and Jack Johnson in his Top 10...........

In fairness Chris, Hammer, Captain Carrantouhil all have Mayweather Top 11..............on here...........

Certainly have more time for them than Colin Hart types...........That live in the past and resent the present..

"Kids have no respect today!!"

Sam Langford number 1.............Geez.

Pot, Kettle, Black.

Do you have any more excuses or is the classic 'not motivated' all you require, you can say that of anybody who lost or performed under par, being motivated for every fight is just as important as talent.

Take the opinion of who you want, doesn't make your opinion any less wrong or painfully tinged with bias.

There's nothing wrong with saying Duran wins, 55/45 he does for me but making out a guy that lost every single round to Benitez turns it around to emancipate Mayweather is ludicrous. His display against Leonard in Montreal was sublime, some of the defensive skill he showed in that fight would have made Whitaker proud but the rematch showed he could mentally check out at any time.

He could be bang on point all night and decision Mayweather but the other Duran could also turn up and he's in for a long night getting countered whilst hitting thin air.

In fairness If you like Liston..........he threw both ali fights !!

catchweight wrote:Mayweather boxes in the little league compared to duran. Put mayweather in an era with duran, hearns, benitez, hagler and these guys and he probably takes up a different sport

Can you imagine it. He'd never fight above Superfeather.

Strongback wrote:

catchweight wrote:Mayweather boxes in the little league compared to duran. Put mayweather in an era with duran, hearns, benitez, hagler and these guys and he probably takes up a different sport

Can you imagine it.  He'd never fight above Superfeather.

One thick, clueless d**khead quoting another..

Poor catchweight, just the third wheel

ShahenshahG wrote: Poor catchweight, just the third wheel

Anybody remember Scottrf ??

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:This is the point Chris made, idiots like Strongy will take the best performances of Duran and compare them with the worst of Mayweather because it suits their agenda.

The weight would make a difference, at lightweight where Duran was more consistent he'd be a slight favourite, above that the edge goes to Mayweather.

If Maidana is being mentioned then when why isn't Benitez, one of them embarrassed their opponent, the other one lost.

Chris is pro Mayweather so he makes that comment. Nobodies neutral on this forum.

Duran is a pressure fighter as is Castillo and Maidana.  Duran is being compared to the pressure fighters Floyd has faced. Duran happens to be a much better pressure fighter than Castillo and Maidana both of who bullied Floyd around the ring.

Duran is an time great Top 10 with many observes that work for the established press.  Matt McGrain has Floyd at No.47 in his ATG list.  McGrain has forgotten more about boxing over his breakfast this morning than one trick pony Truss will ever know.  As for you, you couldn't come close McGrain if you got a Boxrec chip inserted in your brain.

I don't rate McGrain's knowledge of the sport in the slightest, every piece of his i've read places an abnormally high amount of emphasis on statistics, which is ironic considering your constant Boxrec jibes. Anybody that has Rocky Marciano at number three on a Heavyweight list I cannot take seriously.

McGrain has done tons of research and can easily converse on any subject he writes about. He knows the history of boxing inside out from the earliest days onwards.

I remember the night I taught you about Archie Moore. You were Boxrec'ing your little heart out. Now you're an "expert" on the man.

You're a hateful wan.ker and when it comes to parents basement I can imagine you thrashing about listening to the sound track of your life Death Metal. You're the weird kid that doesn't have any friends.

How many people have you antagonised around here just by being yourself? Weirdo

Strongback wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:This is the point Chris made, idiots like Strongy will take the best performances of Duran and compare them with the worst of Mayweather because it suits their agenda.

The weight would make a difference, at lightweight where Duran was more consistent he'd be a slight favourite, above that the edge goes to Mayweather.

If Maidana is being mentioned then when why isn't Benitez, one of them embarrassed their opponent, the other one lost.

Chris is pro Mayweather so he makes that comment. Nobodies neutral on this forum.

Duran is a pressure fighter as is Castillo and Maidana.  Duran is being compared to the pressure fighters Floyd has faced. Duran happens to be a much better pressure fighter than Castillo and Maidana both of who bullied Floyd around the ring.

Duran is an time great Top 10 with many observes that work for the established press.  Matt McGrain has Floyd at No.47 in his ATG list.  McGrain has forgotten more about boxing over his breakfast this morning than one trick pony Truss will ever know.  As for you, you couldn't come close McGrain if you got a Boxrec chip inserted in your brain.

I don't rate McGrain's knowledge of the sport in the slightest, every piece of his i've read places an abnormally high amount of emphasis on statistics, which is ironic considering your constant Boxrec jibes. Anybody that has Rocky Marciano at number three on a Heavyweight list I cannot take seriously.

McGrain has done tons of research and can easily converse on any subject he writes about. He knows the history of boxing inside out from the earliest days onwards.

I remember the night I taught you about Archie Moore. You were Boxrec'ing your little heart out.  Now you're an "expert" on the man.

You're a hateful wan.ker and when it comes to parents basement I can imagine you thrashing about listening to the sound track of your life Death Metal.  You're the weird kid that doesn't have any friends.

How many people have you antagonised around here just by being yourself?  Weirdo

FFS...................Nat Fleischer knew more about Boxing than me.................and he had Dempsey banging out "the overrated Ali"..

just stop...........

Irving has done more research on WW2 than most and reckons the holocaust didn't exist............So it didn't then ??

Dear oh dear..

milkyboy wrote:http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/09/is-floyd-mayweather-jr-a-top-60-pound-for-pound-all-time/



Strongy has a point about Chris... Always has an angle, sucking up to his favourites.

Omit any emotive language and write a lot about how balanced your view is..........then somewhere in there say what you really think.

Very non-offensive stuff.

Not passive aggression more about getting making the your mark by stealth. Captain was a master of it. Similar views too. Maybe I've outed Chris as an alias.

You taught me about Archie Moore, I do not remember you ever saying a significant word about the man.

In my opinion McGrain knows sod all and would be one of the last 'experts' i'd taking any notice of, his write up of the heavyweights was so bad and so wrong it could have been written by you.

I'll rise above the personal jibes as to be honest it just shows you up yet again.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:You taught me about Archie Moore, I do not remember you ever saying a significant word about the man.

In my opinion McGrain knows sod all and would be one of the last 'experts' i'd taking any notice of, his write up of the heavyweights was so bad and so wrong it could have been written by you.

I'll rise above the personal jibes as to be honest it just shows you up yet again.

He had spinks about 78.............and Tunney top 20.....

If memory serves correct...............It was awful..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

Strongback wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:This is the point Chris made, idiots like Strongy will take the best performances of Duran and compare them with the worst of Mayweather because it suits their agenda.

The weight would make a difference, at lightweight where Duran was more consistent he'd be a slight favourite, above that the edge goes to Mayweather.

If Maidana is being mentioned then when why isn't Benitez, one of them embarrassed their opponent, the other one lost.

Chris is pro Mayweather so he makes that comment. Nobodies neutral on this forum.

Duran is a pressure fighter as is Castillo and Maidana.  Duran is being compared to the pressure fighters Floyd has faced. Duran happens to be a much better pressure fighter than Castillo and Maidana both of who bullied Floyd around the ring.

Duran is an time great Top 10 with many observes that work for the established press.  Matt McGrain has Floyd at No.47 in his ATG list.  McGrain has forgotten more about boxing over his breakfast this morning than one trick pony Truss will ever know.  As for you, you couldn't come close McGrain if you got a Boxrec chip inserted in your brain.

I don't rate McGrain's knowledge of the sport in the slightest, every piece of his i've read places an abnormally high amount of emphasis on statistics, which is ironic considering your constant Boxrec jibes. Anybody that has Rocky Marciano at number three on a Heavyweight list I cannot take seriously.

McGrain has done tons of research and can easily converse on any subject he writes about. He knows the history of boxing inside out from the earliest days onwards.

I remember the night I taught you about Archie Moore. You were Boxrec'ing your little heart out.  Now you're an "expert" on the man.

You're a hateful wan.ker and when it comes to parents basement I can imagine you thrashing about listening to the sound track of your life Death Metal.  You're the weird kid that doesn't have any friends.

How many people have you antagonised around here just by being yourself?  Weirdo

FFS...................Nat Fleischer knew more about Boxing than me.................and he had Dempsey banging out "the overrated Ali"..

just stop...........

Irving has done more research on WW2 than most and reckons the holocaust didn't exist............So it didn't then ??

Dear oh dear..

You do know Fleischer was not alive for a lot of Ali's career. He didn't like the young braggadocio but never saw the fights that cemented Ali's legacy.

I wouldn't expect anything more from a know nothing clown like you anyway. I'm going to contact the Royal Academy of Science as you are proving Tourette's can be expressed on a keyboard.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:You taught me about Archie Moore, I do not remember you ever saying a significant word about the man.

In my opinion McGrain knows sod all and would be one of the last 'experts' i'd taking any notice of, his write up of the heavyweights was so bad and so wrong it could have been written by you.

I'll rise above the personal jibes as to be honest it just shows you up yet again.

You called me an idiot so you deserve what you get. Don't dish it if you can't run with it when the heat turns up.

I listened to part of a song by the band Death. You're depraved if you wax lyrically about that depressive debased guttural degenerative weirdo music. Is Jeffrey Dahmer a hero of yours?

You need to get past your stereotypical view of metal based on Black Metal, Schuldiner and Masvidal are guitar geniuses but I suppose listening to 'part' of a song makes you an expert now. Masvidal's other death metal band Cynic are anything but depressive, it's not as if the lyrical content of Sam Smith is really positive.

Hammersmith harrier wrote:You need to get past your stereotypical view of metal based on Black Metal, Schuldiner and Masvidal are guitar geniuses but I suppose listening to 'part' of a song makes you an expert now. Masvidal's other death metal band Cynic are anything but depressive, it's not as if the lyrical content of Sam Smith is really positive.

I don't have a stereotypical opinion I just listened to some of the lyrics. Aren't you supposed to grow out of this before you're 18.

Mutilation

Massacred, Hacked to death, My revenge
Slicing deep, Into your flesh, The pain intense
Dreams of hate, Misery, Fill my mind
Puke in your face in disgust, It's time to die

You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain

Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation

Staring your severed head in the face
I celebrate a faggot's death, Human disgrace
Hanging your mangled corpse for display
My revenge was fulfilled upon this day

You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain

Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation

You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain

Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation

Strongback wrote:

Hammersmith harrier wrote:You need to get past your stereotypical view of metal based on Black Metal, Schuldiner and Masvidal are guitar geniuses but I suppose listening to 'part' of a song makes you an expert now. Masvidal's other death metal band Cynic are anything but depressive, it's not as if the lyrical content of Sam Smith is really positive.

I don't have a stereotypical opinion I just listened to some of the lyrics.  Aren't you supposed to grow out of this before you're 18.

Mutilation

Massacred, Hacked to death, My revenge
Slicing deep, Into your flesh, The pain intense
Dreams of hate, Misery, Fill my mind
Puke in your face in disgust, It's time to die

You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain

Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation

Staring your severed head in the face
I celebrate a faggot's death, Human disgrace
Hanging your mangled corpse for display
My revenge was fulfilled upon this day

You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain

Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation

You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain
You must die in pain

Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation
Mutilation

This explains a lot.....

Are you the voice for everyone now, if they don't conform to your standards of delusion there must be something wrong with them?

You do realise nobody is forcing you to listen to Death nor is anyone forcing you to read up about them, so is not you whom is odd for researching something you dislike?

Also has to be noted that Scream Bloody Gore isn't a great album, they didn't hit their stride as a band until Spiritual Healing when Schudliner's guitar work became more technical and refined.

Thought i was reading an excerpt from a mike Tyson pre fight press conference there. Is this what he played for the ring walk of the spinks fight?