Cardiff Blues vs Connacht

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Leighton Hodges (as Assistant Referee) gave a pretty dodgy try with a perfect view of it, but the TMO prevailed.

Cardiff Blues: 15 Rhys Patchell, 14 Alex Cuthbert, 13 Cory Allen, 12 Gavin Evans, 11 Joaquin Tuculet, 10 Gareth Anscombe, 9 Lloyd Williams; 1 Sam Hobbs, 2 Kristian Dacey, 3 Taufa'ao Filise, 4 Jarrad Hoeata, 5 Lou Reed, 6 Josh Turnbull, 7 Ellis Jenkins (c), 8 Josh Navidi

Replacements: 16 Matthew Rees, 17 Thomas Davies, 18 Scott Andrews, 19 Filo Paulo, 20 Macauley Cook, 21 Tavis Knoyle, 22 Gareth Davies, 23 Tom Isaacs

Connacht:
15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Tiernan O'Halloran, 13 Danie Poolman, 12 Dave McSharry, 11 Matt Healy, 10 Craig Ronaldson, 9 John Cooney; 1 Denis Buckley, 2 Tom McCartney, 3 Rodney Ah You, 4 Mick Kearney, 5 Aly Muldowney, 6 John Muldoon (captain), 7 Jake Heenan, 8 George Naoupu

Replacements:16 Shane Delahunt, 17 Ronan Loughney, 18 Finlay Bealham, 19 Andrew Browne, 20 Eoghan Masterson, 21 Ian Porter, 22 Jack Carty, 23 Darragh Leader

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:

Notch wrote:I feel like Connacht could have and should have put a lot more points on the board when they had total dominance in the first half. Then the officials are taken out of the equation.

They really should have done. The Blues were rank poor in the first half but Connacht didn't capitalise on it. They were only seven points ahead at half time and the Blues always had a way back in.

I don't really have an opinion on Pat Lam going public with his criticism of Leighton Hodges. The main thing is that he's made an official complaint, because a decision as bad as the one in Friday's game doesn't help the league, and what's more it's not the first howler Hodges has had: remember the Blues v Ospreys game when he awarded a penalty against a player for tackling someone as they were about to kick? The player penalised was incredulous and said the player hadn't kicked, to which Hodges said, "I know, because you tackled him." Simple way to score a try then, just dummy-kick the length of the field, you're untouchable!

I suppose the only thing that annoyed me about Lams comments is that Hodges made an absolute howler that would have benefited Connacht right at the start- okay, he was overruled but it seems he is equal opportunities incompetent if anything!

I fully understand how upset he and all the Connacht players and coaches must be in the aftermath of that game and that frustration can get the better of you, but I think the implication of bias is extremely unfair even if the criticism of the decision is fair.

The Saint wrote:

Cardiff Dave wrote:

Coleman wrote:I really don't care what Lam has to say. His opinion now means nothing to me and i've lost all respect for him after his comments. Fact of the matter is, my team who have had a beyond dismal season, came from behind to string 68 phases of play together. Players dug deep, we the fans backed them. You can all be negative but it was a much needed win and performance for us.

Our team, should be taking the likes of Connacht to the fecking cleaners everytime and refs making mistakes or whinging coaches won't even enter into the equation. Here you go....

Cardiff 58-0 Connacht

http://www.cardiffblues.com/rugby/1662.php

And now it's Connacht dishing out the hammering's to certain teams. Maybe if us Welsh took a leaf out of their book we wouldn't be going backwards.

To be fair, Connacht have changed a lot since that 2008 team, in the backs Fionn Carr is the only player still there, and at that time was their star player, he can't even get into the team anymore the backs have improved that much.
Andrew Browne, Michael Swift, John Muldoon are still there.

I don't think there are any Connacht players from 08 that would get into the present team (maybe the younger versions of the above named and Ian Keatley)

For Cardiff there are loads from the 2008 team that would get into the current side, Leigh Halfpenny, Jamie Roberts, Xavier Rush (not as familiar with some current blues players but maybe Paul Tito, Ma'ama Molitika, Andy Powell, Tom Shanklin, Richie Rees).

Its a reflection of how far Connacht have come, with a good number coming through the academy and some very wise recruitment, average crowds around the 5500 mark now as well, means that Connacht are now competing on about an equal footing with the Welsh regions and results are reflecting that.

It also shows what the infighting has done to the Welsh teams, and the rebuilding required that Connacht have managed to catch up on Scarlets and Cardiff Blues, when they should have been able to keep ahead of them.

I was there for this game, and the atmosphere in the last ten minutes was like the good old days, but Blues were crap, I thought the ref had a decent game and after watching scrum V yesterday it does look like Cuthbert knocked it on, but because he kept control of it he got away with it, but the Connacht player DID come in from the side to take the ball.

It realy makes me laugh on this forum, I have been bitching for years about how the Irish provinces always get the rub of the green from refs, now it has gone the other way, for ONE weekend there is holy hell on here, why don't you Irish fans tell yourself what you have been telling me all the time.

Nah Dowlias, once the ball comes out there is no ruck so he can't come in from the side. If you acknowledge the knock on you also acknowledge that Cuthbert played the ball on the ground. It's one decision in a game of them though. Bad decision but they happen. Don't think hodges integrity deserves to be called into question

Standulstermen wrote:Nah Dowlias, once the ball comes out there is no ruck so he can't come in from the side. If you acknowledge the knock on you also acknowledge that Cuthbert played the ball on the ground. It's one decision in a game of them though. Bad decision but they happen. Don't think hodges integrity deserves to be called into question

Yes I agree, Cuthbert got away with it, it should have been game over after that, but because he got away with it, the next thing he did was present the ball thus a ruck was formed, to get that ball you must come through the middle, or through the gate as the buzzwords are at the moment, the Connacht player did not do this he came around the side of the player and picked the ball up, I did not see the knock on as I was sat on the other side of the pitch, but when the Connacht player picked the ball up I immediately said to my old man, I am sure he came in from the side there, and I was sat their rather smug when the ref also agreed. But it should not have come to that in the first place, but being Irish you should know more about having the rub of the green more than others, I thought for a young man the ref had a decent game.

LordDowlais wrote:It realy makes me laugh on this forum, I have been bitching for years about how the Irish provinces always get the rub of the green from refs, now it has gone the other way, for ONE weekend there is holy hell on here

Are you surprised by this?

gcBlues wrote:

LordDowlais wrote:It realy makes me laugh on this forum, I have been bitching for years about how the Irish provinces always get the rub of the green from refs, now it has gone the other way, for ONE weekend there is holy hell on here

Are you surprised by this?

Now that you mention it, no I am not. It does make you laugh though doesn't it ? How dare us Welsh upset the Irish applecart that is the Pro12.

To be honest I think its just the losing team blames the ref, any fans forum you go onto after a game and a section of the losing teams fans will be blaming the ref.

The reason the Welsh have more of the reputation of complaining about the ref is that they lose more often.

In Pro 12 before this weekend
Welsh have had 32 opportunities to complain about the ref
Irish had only 19 opportunities
So over the season it appears the Welsh complain more about refs

This weekend Irish have had 4 opportunities and Welsh zero, so it appears that its Irish complaining.

Its not really Irish or Welsh thing its that the losing team will very likely not be happy about the ref.

Kingshu wrote:To be honest I think its just the losing team blames the ref, any fans forum you go onto after a game and a section of the losing teams fans will be blaming the ref.

The reason the Welsh have more of the reputation of complaining about the ref is that they lose more often.

In Pro 12 before this weekend
Welsh have had 32 opportunities to complain about the ref
Irish had only 19 opportunities
So over the season it appears the Welsh complain more about refs

This weekend Irish have had 4 opportunities and Welsh zero, so it appears that its Irish complaining.

Its not really Irish or Welsh thing its that the losing team will very likely not be happy about the ref.

Thats fair enough Kingshu, but why is it ok for Irish people to do it, but when Welsh people do it we are hung, drawn and quartered.

So the welsh have had 32 opportunities to complain about the ref, and seized those opportunities with relish - complained at every opportunity.

The Irish have had 19 opportunities to complain about the ref, and the Irish have complain twice - Embra v Ulster and Blues v Connacht (both Hodges)

Welsh wailing and gnashing of teeth as a national pastime confirmed.

Thankyou

Nah Munch, the Irish complain all the time, it's just that you are allowed to on here and we are not.

God, but you're all dumb.  Especially the Welsh lads

It's as plain as the nose on your faces but you can't see it?

This weekend was business as usual - the IRFPRO12U continues apace.  Everything is fine.  Irish refs still rule the roost of bias and will be at it again in full flow before the season is out.

BUT................ the IRFU aren't dumb.  They test the waters.  And of course, they've known now for some weeks that the Welsh are getting hot under the collar about Irishism as it relates to Pro12.  And they've been verbal about it.  And they've been throwing their accusations about.

So?  Damage Limitation mode must be sanctioned by IRFU.  It commands the Welsh officials to go out of their way to make sure Welsh sides get a clean sweep at the weekend to damped down the dissent and prospective rioting for 'equality' that was being threatened by Welsh regional fans.

The Welsh fans are happy now.  The smiles are sappy with smugness and all is right with the world again.  The IRFPRO12U gets ready for a full resumption of normal service next week

Analyse People!!!  Don't be sheep!.

LordDowlais wrote:Nah Munch, the Irish complain all the time, it's just that you are allowed to on here and we are not.

You never stop Lord That's some definition of 'Not' you got there.....

No we don't, LD. Complain very rarely compared to you lot

What's not allowed is excessive wumming. Rightly so

Munchkin wrote:So the welsh have had 32 opportunities to complain about the ref, and seized those opportunities with relish - complained at every opportunity.

The Irish have had 19 opportunities to complain about the ref, and the Irish have complain twice - Embra v Ulster and Dragons v Connacht (both Hodges)

Welsh wailing and gnashing of teeth as a national pastime confirmed.

Thankyou

So neither of the Leinster or Connacht coaching teams have moaned about the refs after this weekend?

They're practicing Scarlet Their ref complaining ability was getting rusty, so they got in much needed practice at the weekend.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Munchkin wrote:So the welsh have had 32 opportunities to complain about the ref, and seized those opportunities with relish - complained at every opportunity.

The Irish have had 19 opportunities to complain about the ref, and the Irish have complain twice - Embra v Ulster and Dragons v Connacht (both Hodges)

Welsh wailing and gnashing of teeth as a national pastime confirmed.

Thankyou

So neither of the Leinster or Connacht coaching teams have moaned about the refs after this weekend?

I haven't checked on the Leinster supporters reaction yet.

Sooo .... Leinster were robbed as well

Also on top of those above numbers if you've had less opportunities to complain at your team is near the top of the table and you do lose, fans are prob less likely to take the opportunity to complain.

Where as if you've had a lot of opportunities to complain, and you lose you are more likely to use that opportunity and it can start to feel like your team is being treated unfairly as you've complained about the ref so often.

Scottish fans don't generally get be labeled as complainers about refs, but I think this is down to them only having 12 opportunities and of those 8 are Edinburgh's and their fans are slightly resigned to losing before hand.

An Italian forum would be intresting with 27 opportunities for 2 teams, I bet they are never done complaining about ref's.

Kingshu wrote:Scottish fans don't generally get be labeled as complainers about refs, but I think this is down to them only having 12 opportunities and of those 8 are Edinburgh's and their fans are slightly resigned to losing before hand.

Well I take it that you do not read much of what the Scotts on here post then, we shall not talk about the last meeting between Wales and Scotland.

Chicken feed in comparison to the real battles of the ages, Lord

SecretFly wrote:Chicken feed in comparison to the real battles of the ages, Lord

SF, I have whitnessed many a ref bashing on here from the Scotland fans, just go on their ongoing banter thread, you will find plenty on there.

No thanks...I hate ref banter.  I enjoy the characters that engage in it! - fine upstanding men many of them - but as a subject, I kick fun out of it more than I'd ever want to take it too seriously.

Where is all this ref bashing? Connacht have never had any luck with refs especially in interpro games and have lost many close games during the years so I can understand their frustration.

Any Ulster, Leinster and Munster fan Ive seen have all held their hands up and said the better team won. MOC is an idiot and will look for any excuse as to why Leinster are performing so woefully.

MOC CLOCK must have started by now?

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Where is all this ref bashing? Connacht have never had any luck with refs especially in interpro games and have lost many close games during the years so I can understand their frustration.

Any Ulster, Leinster and Munster fan Ive seen have all held their hands up and said the better team won. MOC is an idiot and will look for any excuse as to why Leinster are performing so woefully.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/pro12-officials-gather-information-part-8797715

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/leinster-coach-matt-oconnor-calls-8795556

That's Officials

And that's Walesonline

We're talking about supporters though, Scarlets. O'Connor is a busted flush, and trying to deflect his own failings with Leinster. Also probably trying to evade the inevitable.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Munchkin wrote:So the welsh have had 32 opportunities to complain about the ref, and seized those opportunities with relish - complained at every opportunity.

The Irish have had 19 opportunities to complain about the ref, and the Irish have complain twice - Embra v Ulster and Dragons v Connacht (both Hodges)

Welsh wailing and gnashing of teeth as a national pastime confirmed.

Thankyou

So neither of the Leinster or Connacht coaching teams have moaned about the refs after this weekend?

You're moving the goalposts,the conversation you are quoting was about the reaction of posters on this site nothing to do with the coaches.Also MoC is an eejit who constantly blames the ref when we lose,if you go on Leinsterfans you will find plenty of posters who criticise him for it (among other things).

Munchkin, in fairness I can't remember hearing from a Connacht supporter online in years (TheBouncerIanKeatley was the last I remember), so it is hard to say if I have heard their fans whinging or not. However there does seem to be a bit more 'neutral officials' grumbles/whinges coming from Irish fans now than there was last weekend.

asoreleftshoulder wrote:

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Munchkin wrote:So the welsh have had 32 opportunities to complain about the ref, and seized those opportunities with relish - complained at every opportunity.

The Irish have had 19 opportunities to complain about the ref, and the Irish have complain twice - Embra v Ulster and Dragons v Connacht (both Hodges)

Welsh wailing and gnashing of teeth as a national pastime confirmed.

Thankyou

So neither of the Leinster or Connacht coaching teams have moaned about the refs after this weekend?

You're moving the goalposts,the conversation you are quoting was about the reaction of posters on this site nothing to do with the coaches.Also MoC is an eejit who constantly blames the ref when we lose,if you go on Leinsterfans you will find plenty of posters who criticise him for it (among other things).

Hahaha timing is everything eh, looks like as you were posting that I was replying to Munchkin on the subject.

But to be fair the post I was quoting was making a sweeping generalisation about the welsh whinging, and said the Irish have only whinged twice. I was just highlighting that the coaches have whinged this week. Although I guess their SH coaches so that is ok as they are not Irish whinging which is what the post comment on.

I hate being personal, Munchkin, but at this point I do hope the inevitable beats his evasion.

He came with talk ringing in my ears about how creative he was in attack - how Leicester were scoring bucketloads with him. Even in the early days, I heard Leinster players say they were learning a stack more backs moves for the future.
Oh WOW! Goes me - even better than ye olde Schmidt days!!

Not to be.  Sludge from dawn to dusk.  Nothing given to the lesser players.  Always waiting for the seniors to come home and moaning about not having them.  .

In over his head I'm afraid, and as a result has pushed back most of what Leinster had in the bank when he turned up.  They'll have to re-learn how to be Leinster all over again now with whoever is next in line.  I hope there is a next in line soon

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

asoreleftshoulder wrote:

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Munchkin wrote:So the welsh have had 32 opportunities to complain about the ref, and seized those opportunities with relish - complained at every opportunity.

The Irish have had 19 opportunities to complain about the ref, and the Irish have complain twice - Embra v Ulster and Dragons v Connacht (both Hodges)

Welsh wailing and gnashing of teeth as a national pastime confirmed.

Thankyou

So neither of the Leinster or Connacht coaching teams have moaned about the refs after this weekend?

You're moving the goalposts,the conversation you are quoting was about the reaction of posters on this site nothing to do with the coaches.Also MoC is an eejit who constantly blames the ref when we lose,if you go on Leinsterfans you will find plenty of posters who criticise him for it (among other things).

Hahaha timing is everything eh, looks like as you were posting that I was replying to Munchkin on the subject.

But to be fair the post I was quoting was making a sweeping generalisation about the welsh whinging, and said the Irish have only whinged twice.  I was just highlighting that the coaches have whinged this week.  Although I guess their SH coaches so that is ok as they are not Irish whinging which is what the post comment on.

No it's not okay MoC is just a bad loser (a bad coach too) and the sooner he's gone the better as far as I can see,he constantly whinges about the ref and like I said you will find a lot of criticism of him by Leinster fans because of it.Lam is a far better coach but he does seem to have an issue with refs too,it's not good to see but I don't know if Connacht fans feel he was right or wrong to say what he did.

Well, as an Ulster supporter I can say, hand on heart, our defeat was nothing to do with the ref. We were pathetic, and the bonus point flatters us.
Even though we beat Embra I'm not happy with how Hodges reffed us. I can also say that Hodges made a really stupid error in final play against Connacht. For me, what's worse is his alleged comment leading up to Connachts home game. If that's true it's totally unacceptable.

All refs make mistakes. Sometimes you get the rub of the green, sometimes you don't. I accept that. Sometimes the ref gets it so badly wrong he should be reported to the referee commission.

Munchkin wrote:Well, as an Ulster supporter I can say, hand on heart, our defeat was nothing to do with the ref. We were pathetic, and the bonus point flatters us.
Even though we beat Embra I'm not happy with how Hodges reffed us. I can also say that Hodges made a really stupid error in final play against Connacht. For me, what's worse is his alleged comment leading up to Connachts home game. If that's true it's totally unacceptable.

All refs make mistakes. Sometimes you get the rub of the green, sometimes you don't. I accept that. Sometimes the ref gets it so badly wrong he should be reported to the referee commission.

I agree 100% with that comment. The issue is that when that is said by an Irish fan it is accepted as common sense, but when it is said by a welsh fan it is pounced on as whinging.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Where is all this ref bashing? Connacht have never had any luck with refs especially in interpro games and have lost many close games during the years so I can understand their frustration.

Any Ulster, Leinster and Munster fan Ive seen have all held their hands up and said the better team won. MOC is an idiot and will look for any excuse as to why Leinster are performing so woefully.

If you want to see some ref bashing by Irish fans on here I will direct you to this :-

https://www.606v2.com/t58038-ospreys-v-munster-sat-7-march-14-40-sky-sports

So there you go, some pretty damning ref bashing by the Irish supporters going on with that thread.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Munchkin wrote:Well, as an Ulster supporter I can say, hand on heart, our defeat was nothing to do with the ref. We were pathetic, and the bonus point flatters us.
Even though we beat Embra I'm not happy with how Hodges reffed us. I can also say that Hodges made a really stupid error in final play against Connacht. For me, what's worse is his alleged comment leading up to Connachts home game. If that's true it's totally unacceptable.

All refs make mistakes. Sometimes you get the rub of the green, sometimes you don't. I accept that. Sometimes the ref gets it so badly wrong he should be reported to the referee commission.

I agree 100% with that comment.  The issue is that when that is said by an Irish fan it is accepted as common sense, but when it is said by a welsh fan it is pounced on as whinging.

Well you's do cry wolf a lot.

I don't think it's so much the Welsh complaining about refs. It's more this Irish conspiracy nonsense that a few online supporters hold, and of which does come across as sour grapes. So I guess that when Welsh supporters complain about refs, this Irish conspiracy thing lurks in the sub conscious of other fans, and helps inform, rightly or wrongly, what welsh supporters are really saying. In truth, there isn't that many Welsh supporters go on about an Irish conspiracy, it's the few who make a lot of noise. I'm thinking of a particular site not dedicated to any one Region.

Munchkin wrote:I don't think it's so much the Welsh complaining about refs. It's more this Irish conspiracy nonsense that a few online supporters hold, and of which does come across as sour grapes. So I guess that when Welsh supporters complain about refs, this Irish conspiracy thing lurks in the sub conscious of other fans, and helps inform, rightly or wrongly, what welsh supporters are really saying. In truth, there isn't that many Welsh supporters go on about an Irish conspiracy, it's the few who make a lot of noise. I'm thinking of a particular site not dedicated to any one Region.

Or the other way of looking at it, there are very few fans who buy into the conspiracy theory, however there are a lot of Irish fans who buy into the paranoia that we all are conspiracy theorists.................

If it was not happening so often then we would not think there is a conspiracy, but every week we see the Irish provinces getting the "rub of the green" yet we are just told we should except it.

LordDowlais wrote:If it was not happening so often then we would not think there is a conspiracy, but every week we see the Irish provinces getting the "rub of the green" yet we are just told we should except it.

And the minute an Irish team suffers a last minute defeat, the tables are turned. Some of the comments on the Connacht forum are a bit embarrassing

"Pat was dead right to call out Hodges on what was without doubt a corrupt call. The WRU cannot contemplate there being only one Welsh side in next year's Heineken. You can be sure Hodges was under instruction to "help" the Scottish ref in his handling of the game."

Imagine if I had posted that on here. I'd be labelled a troll.

Cardiff won.

All four Regions won.

Chin up.

Worse things have happened. Even when yis win, you can't help bringing up refs. Lose - the ref was bought. Win - the Irish are blaming the ref for being bought!

The IREFU 12

ScarletSpiderman wrote:

Munchkin wrote:I don't think it's so much the Welsh complaining about refs. It's more this Irish conspiracy nonsense that a few online supporters hold, and of which does come across as sour grapes. So I guess that when Welsh supporters complain about refs, this Irish conspiracy thing lurks in the sub conscious of other fans, and helps inform, rightly or wrongly, what welsh supporters are really saying. In truth, there isn't that many Welsh supporters go on about an Irish conspiracy, it's the few who make a lot of noise. I'm thinking of a particular site not dedicated to any one Region.

Or the other way of looking at it, there are very few fans who buy into the conspiracy theory, however there are a lot of Irish fans who buy into the paranoia that we all are conspiracy theorists.................

Yes, as I said, that sort of thing lurks in the subconscious, and helps interpret what others are saying. There does seem to be a lot of Irish bashing though, and I guess Supporters react to that as well. The fallout over the European cup didn't help things either.

For Irish conspiracy nuts, see LD's latest post

Sorry, LD

LordDowlais wrote:

Standulstermen wrote:Nah Dowlias, once the ball comes out there is no ruck so he can't come in from the side. If you acknowledge the knock on you also acknowledge that Cuthbert played the ball on the ground. It's one decision in a game of them though. Bad decision but they happen. Don't think hodges integrity deserves to be called into question

Yes I agree, Cuthbert got away with it, it should have been game over after that, but because he got away with it, the next thing he did was present the ball thus a ruck was formed, to get that ball you must come through the middle, or through the gate as the buzzwords are at the moment, the Connacht player did not do this he came around the side of the player and picked the ball up, I did not see the knock on as I was sat on the other side of the pitch, but when the Connacht player picked the ball up I immediately said to my old man, I am sure he came in from the side there, and I was sat their rather smug when the ref also agreed. But it should not have come to that in the first place, but being Irish you should know more about having the rub of the green more than others, I thought for a young man the ref had a decent game.

When Cuthbert replaces the ball the Connacht player and the Cardiff player come in at the same time and lock hands on the ball together so there is still no infringement LD. 

On the ref, I didn't think he had a good game but it's nothing to do with his decisions. I said at the time I didn't like his interpretations at ruck time when he continually told non tacklers to 'roll away' (this is for both sides). I think his interpretation was fundamentally wrong but I do believe he was consistent with it so in that sense it's a plus mark for him.

According to the Fail, Lam has been charged, IMO he should have gone through the right channels to complain, yet basically he was right as Hodges patently got it WRONG.

wayne wrote:According to the Fail, Lam has been charged, IMO he should have gone through the right channels to complain, yet basically he was right as Hodges patently got it WRONG.

To be fair Wayne, I think the Pro 12 are 'investigating' - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/pro12-officials-gather-information-part-8797715

PenfroPete wrote:

wayne wrote:According to the Fail, Lam has been charged, IMO he should have gone through the right channels to complain, yet basically he was right as Hodges patently got it WRONG.

To be fair Wayne, I think the Pro 12 are 'investigating' - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/pro12-officials-gather-information-part-8797715

Pete, it's on a twitter feed on the right hand side of the News Page, what you've put up was on there yesterday, this is the latest

Had I been Lam, I would have circled those Connacht players and made them realise that the game was over and that was that - coldly and clinically.  Push their heads and minds on. He should have instantly told them to put the game behind them but be very proud of the effort they put in, both in attack but most especially in defence.  
Had I the issue then that he had with officials, I would have then dealt with it through channels in the background.

But winning or losing wasn't the important bit actually.  Rub of the green and all that happens.  But that performance at the end was important, with 14 men and every last drop of sweat used to try so hard to hold on.  That's the banker and Lam should be happy with that.  Connacht have come on a long way now under him.  Keep his focus.  Keep developing so that those close run games turn in his favour more frequently

wayne wrote:

PenfroPete wrote:

wayne wrote:According to the Fail, Lam has been charged, IMO he should have gone through the right channels to complain, yet basically he was right as Hodges patently got it WRONG.

To be fair Wayne, I think the Pro 12 are 'investigating' - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/pro12-officials-gather-information-part-8797715

Pete, it's on a twitter feed on the right hand side of the News Page, what you've put up was on there yesterday, this is the latest

Ah !! Sh!tter, tw!tter , tw@tter is blocked in the office. I sit corrected

Confirmation for those of us not 'down with the kids' -

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/pro12/pat-lam-formally-charged-with-misconduct-by-pro-12-1.2132213

http://www.the42.ie/pat-lam-comments-1981787-Mar2015/

SecretFly wrote:Had I been Lam, I would have circled those Connacht players and made them realise that the game was over and that was that - coldly and clinically.  Push their heads and minds on. He should have instantly told them to put the game behind them but be very proud of the effort they put in, both in attack but most especially in defence.  
Had I the issue then that he had with officials, I would have then dealt with it through channels in the background.

But winning or losing wasn't the important bit actually.  Rub of the green and all that happens.  But that performance at the end was important, with 14 men and every last drop of sweat used to try so hard to hold on.  That's the banker and Lam should be happy with that.  Connacht have come on a long way now under him.  Keep his focus.  Keep developing so that those close run games turn in his favour more frequently

Yes basically as I'd already said, he should have gone through the proper channels, he'll learn from this, as long as he keeps making other mistakes to allow 2 Welsh teams into the RCC, it'll be ok