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Season 7 Homepage VIII
First topic message reminder :
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | London Wasps * | 22 | 18 | 1 | 3 | 626 | 564 | 62 | 69 | 49 | 8 | 2 | 83 | |
2 | Sale Sharks * | 22 | 18 | 0 | 4 | 616 | 546 | 70 | 68 | 49 | 7 | 4 | 82 | |
3 | Northampton Saints | 22 | 16 | 0 | 6 | 606 | 553 | 53 | 62 | 51 | 8 | 6 | 78 | |
4 | Harlequins * | 22 | 12 | 2 | 8 | 605 | 564 | 41 | 60 | 54 | 3 | 8 | 62 | |
5 | Leicester Tigers | 22 | 11 | 2 | 9 | 551 | 541 | 10 | 47 | 47 | 0 | 9 | 57 | |
6 | Bath Rugby * | 22 | 10 | 1 | 11 | 572 | 579 | -7 | 57 | 55 | 3 | 11 | 51 | |
7 | Gloucester * | 22 | 9 | 1 | 12 | 582 | 577 | 5 | 58 | 53 | 3 | 12 | 51 | |
8 | Newcastle Falcons * | 22 | 9 | 1 | 12 | 553 | 579 | -26 | 52 | 53 | 3 | 10 | 50 | |
9 | Saracens * | 22 | 9 | 2 | 11 | 546 | 578 | -32 | 47 | 53 | 1 | 10 | 50 | |
10 | Exeter Chiefs * | 22 | 7 | 4 | 11 | 538 | 568 | -30 | 46 | 54 | 0 | 11 | 46 | |
11 | London Welsh | 22 | 4 | 0 | 18 | 513 | 601 | -88 | 45 | 61 | 0 | 12 | 28 | |
12 | London Irish * | 22 | 2 | 2 | 18 | 531 | 601 | -70 | 43 | 64 | 1 | 16 | 27 |
Links
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Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage
Welcome to Season 7 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1992.
Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Open Window
Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.
The window will open from the 9th of June but only to those sides that finish 8th and below at first. They will have a week to make one signing each before the window is open to all.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 15:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.
For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
Last edited by SirJohnnyEnglish on Sat 13 Jun 2015, 6:50 pm; edited 6 times in total
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Season 7 Homepage VIII
Eastmond at 12 Head and shoulders above everyone else up to the 6 nations and picking form up again in recent weeks. Thought Wyles was playing predominately wing?
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I thought it was fullback for Wyles as well.
Eastmond would be my 12, with Hill from Exeter a solid second place. Not many others have put theirs hands up tbh.
Eastmond would be my 12, with Hill from Exeter a solid second place. Not many others have put theirs hands up tbh.
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Yea I'd go Eastmond too. Wyles has played a lot at 12, especially with Barritt out.
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I think Wyles has played everywhere in the outside backs.
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Tuilagi to miss world cup after assaulting a police man and pleading Guilty.
Driver- Posts : 11038
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Tut tut. Like his constant injury problems weren't bad enough he's attacking coppers!
Might be a long time before we see him play for England again.
Might be a long time before we see him play for England again.
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Crazy. Doesn't seem to be much about it yet in terms of details - was hoping we'd go Ford, Tuilagi and JJ. Though could open the door for Daly or Slade in the training squad.
Think my team of the season would be:
1. Mako Vunipola
2. Jamie George
3. Tomos Francis
4. Dean Mumm
5. Samu Manoa
6. Dave Ewers/Ashley Johnson (couldn't split)
7. Francois Louw
8. Nathan Hughes/Thomas Waldroum (couldn't split)
9. Joe Simpson
10. George Ford
11. London Irish winger, begins with a L
12. Kyle Eastmond
13. Jonathan Joseph/Elliot Daly (couldn't split)
14. Sinoti Sinoti
15. Alex Goode
Amazing how Tigers have been poor for the majority of the season and hit great form to push for the playoffs - not sure how they've managed to stay close to them but Tom Youngs is now playing like he should be England's first choice no2!
Think my team of the season would be:
1. Mako Vunipola
2. Jamie George
3. Tomos Francis
4. Dean Mumm
5. Samu Manoa
6. Dave Ewers/Ashley Johnson (couldn't split)
7. Francois Louw
8. Nathan Hughes/Thomas Waldroum (couldn't split)
9. Joe Simpson
10. George Ford
11. London Irish winger, begins with a L
12. Kyle Eastmond
13. Jonathan Joseph/Elliot Daly (couldn't split)
14. Sinoti Sinoti
15. Alex Goode
Amazing how Tigers have been poor for the majority of the season and hit great form to push for the playoffs - not sure how they've managed to stay close to them but Tom Youngs is now playing like he should be England's first choice no2!
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No matter how good Youngs club form is he always struggles with his darts at Int level, I'd worry if we started him.
Mako is another who's only started 10 games, he's had a good 2nd half to the season though.
Mako is another who's only started 10 games, he's had a good 2nd half to the season though.
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Wyles been great all season wherever played.
Billy
V been best 8 along with Waldrom with Hughes 3rd for me.
I would have picked a much different side.
To be fair these blogs are the same as you and I picking a side. The papers generally get It more right as they see many more games and most importantly they see it live which is a much better barometer.
think Simpson at 9 is 100% unanimous in every attempt at a team I have seen. Would have
Simpson ford Joseph and that's it of that side if I was doing mine.
Billy
V been best 8 along with Waldrom with Hughes 3rd for me.
I would have picked a much different side.
To be fair these blogs are the same as you and I picking a side. The papers generally get It more right as they see many more games and most importantly they see it live which is a much better barometer.
think Simpson at 9 is 100% unanimous in every attempt at a team I have seen. Would have
Simpson ford Joseph and that's it of that side if I was doing mine.
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I'd have picked Billy V, but didn't want to select too many players from my own team - moving to Sarries was the best move he made, him and Mako have improved out of sight this season.
Centres for WC - Barritt, Burrell, JJ and Daly with Slade covering 10, 12 and 13 now?
Centres for WC - Barritt, Burrell, JJ and Daly with Slade covering 10, 12 and 13 now?
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:Tut tut. Like his constant injury problems weren't bad enough he's attacking coppers!
Might be a long time before we see him play for England again.
I was thinking earlier that he might not have even been injured all this time.
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Good point Driver, as he was pencilled in to make his comeback against Italy. What an idiot though.
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Aren't most articles just the same as us picking a side? It's just somebodies opinion end of the day.
My side would be:
1. Auterac
2. Lawson
3. Francis
4. Kitchener
5. Hooper
6. Ewers
7. Clark
8. Hughes
9. Youngs
10. Ford
11. Sinoti
12. Eastmond
13. Daly
14. Ashton
15. Watson
Not necessarily players I think are the best in the league but ones I think have played well for the majority of the season.
My side would be:
1. Auterac
2. Lawson
3. Francis
4. Kitchener
5. Hooper
6. Ewers
7. Clark
8. Hughes
9. Youngs
10. Ford
11. Sinoti
12. Eastmond
13. Daly
14. Ashton
15. Watson
Not necessarily players I think are the best in the league but ones I think have played well for the majority of the season.
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Match thread is updated and predictions are open.
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Auterac is a fine prospect and no doubt an int of the future but would not me anywhere near any team of the year. Hard to pick a Lh of the year past Mako for me. Likewise Lawson who is without doubt the worst scrummaging hooker in the league.
Hooper a good call as he never lets anyone down and is the rock of bath side.
My side would be
1 mako
2 Youngs( George close and has been consistent but Youngs half a season been dynamite)
3 Francis ( Wilson before injury would have walked it and afoa also good)
4 Kitchener
5 manoa
6 Louw( know he is a 7 but have to include him and he can play 6)
7 Kvesic
8 BV/ Waldron
9 Simpson
10 Ford
11 May
12 eastbound
13 Joseph
14 Ashton ( has howlers but overall been a threat and proper poacher)
15 Goode( more all round Watson has been shaky in defence each time I have seen him
This is based on what I have seen. Mainly on TV and at Gloucester home and away games.
Seeing live games is a better way to evaluate performance
Hooper a good call as he never lets anyone down and is the rock of bath side.
My side would be
1 mako
2 Youngs( George close and has been consistent but Youngs half a season been dynamite)
3 Francis ( Wilson before injury would have walked it and afoa also good)
4 Kitchener
5 manoa
6 Louw( know he is a 7 but have to include him and he can play 6)
7 Kvesic
8 BV/ Waldron
9 Simpson
10 Ford
11 May
12 eastbound
13 Joseph
14 Ashton ( has howlers but overall been a threat and proper poacher)
15 Goode( more all round Watson has been shaky in defence each time I have seen him
This is based on what I have seen. Mainly on TV and at Gloucester home and away games.
Seeing live games is a better way to evaluate performance
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Lawson has had a great season at Falcons. I'm not a huge fan either but he's been so good every game, his work rate is insane.
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His work rate is mental and he is a really adept footballer. When we signed him from Irish he was great when we played this open style at glos. When November, December and January came he ended up costing us pens in scrums and had no effect. He would then get dropped and surface again in March April and be great again.
A bit of a deon Fourie
A bit of a deon Fourie
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I'm not sure that his scrummaging is that bad. It's certainly not strong but I rarely notice a difference with our set piece if he's in the team or not.
Might see more next season when we have some better props.
Might see more next season when we have some better props.
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Haha just seen Stuart Barnes interview saying how Tuilagi should be thrown out of the England squad because of the assault etc, but hasn't he been a big advocate for bringing in Steffen Armitage...
Alex Lewington was the winger I was thinking of.
Alex Lewington was the winger I was thinking of.
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SL won't stand for and rubbish, neither will be involved. Barnes talks some utter rubbish to be fair, it's hardly surprising.
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I know Steve James ex england cricketer and telegraph rugby writer.( Welsh biased new Steven Jones type imo) Prop probably knows him as he is a lydney man.
He has posted on his personal Facebook that no one in press knew manu was in this situation. Points out he has him in his 45 training squad in tomorrow's telegraph and that Barnes, ackford and Dallaglio had him in times squad today.
Bad news for england. How do we break gain line ?
Times has slade, daly, LCD and Mullen in above Corbs.
Personally would have Webber above LCD and George as 3rd hooker due to experience.
Itoje seen as the bolter in most papers and as he covers back row and second row seen to edge out Clark and attwood In most papers
All speculation as everyhing is pre WC
This case has been properly hidden.
He has posted on his personal Facebook that no one in press knew manu was in this situation. Points out he has him in his 45 training squad in tomorrow's telegraph and that Barnes, ackford and Dallaglio had him in times squad today.
Bad news for england. How do we break gain line ?
Times has slade, daly, LCD and Mullen in above Corbs.
Personally would have Webber above LCD and George as 3rd hooker due to experience.
Itoje seen as the bolter in most papers and as he covers back row and second row seen to edge out Clark and attwood In most papers
All speculation as everyhing is pre WC
This case has been properly hidden.
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It's going to sound cynical but I imagine they timed this story to mask the fact that that Armitage and Abendanon couldn't be picked unless there is an injury crisis in their positions.
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I've seen Itoje mentioned in a few papers as well, lots are also saying that Burgess makes the 45 man squad.
Attwood has been a little disappointing from 6Nations onwards so do think his place is at risk - a lot of good players who weren't involved in 6Nations coming into good form now.
Be interesting to see whether Morgan makes it in time - Greenwood did a piece in Telegraph saying that BV is now undroppable for England.
Attwood has been a little disappointing from 6Nations onwards so do think his place is at risk - a lot of good players who weren't involved in 6Nations coming into good form now.
Be interesting to see whether Morgan makes it in time - Greenwood did a piece in Telegraph saying that BV is now undroppable for England.
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Court case was today wasn't it? Reckon they kept it back in case he got off . Cant believe he did it though, has a bit of a history of doing stupid things, can't help but feel he isn't the sharpest...
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I think Morgan offers a little bit more than Vunipola, and has shown enough to warrant a spot
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Would have agreed with you at the start of the season as Morgan was playing very well but still tended to drift in and out of games.
Here's the Greenwood article - personally think losing his place to Morgan was the best thing that happened to him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/premiership/11607965/Billy-Vunipolas-coming-of-age-has-seen-Saracens-and-England-man-mountain-make-colossal-impact.html
Here's the Greenwood article - personally think losing his place to Morgan was the best thing that happened to him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/premiership/11607965/Billy-Vunipolas-coming-of-age-has-seen-Saracens-and-England-man-mountain-make-colossal-impact.html
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Court case was last week where he was guilty but sentenced today hence public.
BV been exceptional
And his defence and work rate brilliant but was behind Morgan when he was fit. Great battle.
Re burgess ackford barnes Dallaglio etc all say he is
Not good enough and it is Lancaster arrogance. Pick
him and it goes wrong then Lancaster will be characterised by it.
Working in Scandinavia 4-6 days a week makes you appreciate english papers.
On a different note the stupid decision to move the challenge and champions cup finals to before end of season is showing.
Tomorrow glos are playing a 2nd 3rd string vs Bath and it is wrong. I bought tickets(months ago) and a flight to come back for it. if bath were not assured a playoff it would be wrong that they could pick up 5 points without competition. Bad for the league and always going to happen with euro final moved
BV been exceptional
And his defence and work rate brilliant but was behind Morgan when he was fit. Great battle.
Re burgess ackford barnes Dallaglio etc all say he is
Not good enough and it is Lancaster arrogance. Pick
him and it goes wrong then Lancaster will be characterised by it.
Working in Scandinavia 4-6 days a week makes you appreciate english papers.
On a different note the stupid decision to move the challenge and champions cup finals to before end of season is showing.
Tomorrow glos are playing a 2nd 3rd string vs Bath and it is wrong. I bought tickets(months ago) and a flight to come back for it. if bath were not assured a playoff it would be wrong that they could pick up 5 points without competition. Bad for the league and always going to happen with euro final moved
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Re Burgess I mean not good enough yet.
He may get there but for me never as a 6 even though he looks comfortable there.
Takes years to learn the breakdown. He is helped playing in a good unit.
Some say now Manu out Burgess versatility helps ???
He may get there but for me never as a 6 even though he looks comfortable there.
Takes years to learn the breakdown. He is helped playing in a good unit.
Some say now Manu out Burgess versatility helps ???
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I don't think he's anywhere close to being ready, to be fair to him he's had 3 excellent games for Bath at no6 with two motm awards and has got some great stats for carrying, tackling and turnovers, but would be an insult to other backrow players if he got picked ahead of say Clark or Kvesvic.
Think he will be named in the England 45 to get experience, but never for the WC squad.
Think he will be named in the England 45 to get experience, but never for the WC squad.
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My brother met Elliot Daly at a Wasps event the week before last and asked him about whether he thought he had a shot at the WC. He said no chance whatsoever under Lancaster and don't expect any surprises as the WC squad is very much set in stone.
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This sums
Up BV development
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/premiership/11607965/Billy-Vunipolas-coming-of-age-has-seen-Saracens-and-England-man-mountain-make-colossal-impact.html
Apparently slade and daly more likely to make squad with Tuilagi out with Cips the casualty as daly covers wing like Tuilagi would have and 15.
Cips would be 3rd ten and 3rd 15 but
Less neeeded with Tuilagi out in terms of balance.
How we get go forward In backs a mystery. 36 rumoured to
Miss out to slade.
Up BV development
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/premiership/11607965/Billy-Vunipolas-coming-of-age-has-seen-Saracens-and-England-man-mountain-make-colossal-impact.html
Apparently slade and daly more likely to make squad with Tuilagi out with Cips the casualty as daly covers wing like Tuilagi would have and 15.
Cips would be 3rd ten and 3rd 15 but
Less neeeded with Tuilagi out in terms of balance.
How we get go forward In backs a mystery. 36 rumoured to
Miss out to slade.
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36 can't be picked, he's in such woeful form for Gloucester - take away his cameo against Wales and I can't recall him having a good game.
Slade has looked v good in recent weeks, as much as I rate Cipriani I think he will miss out. Can see midfield options being Ford, Farrell, Slade, Burrell, Daly, Barritt and JJ.
Burrell is quite lucky to be there, as I'm not sure he looks like he can take his club form up to international level.
Slade has looked v good in recent weeks, as much as I rate Cipriani I think he will miss out. Can see midfield options being Ford, Farrell, Slade, Burrell, Daly, Barritt and JJ.
Burrell is quite lucky to be there, as I'm not sure he looks like he can take his club form up to international level.
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It was never an issue in the past to have Size. I believe that with the options of pace and skill we have and the forward pack, we don't need to rely on a Gatland style backline.
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Slade could cover 3 rd choice ten but as Healy said he is nowhere near a proper ten yet. He does however have the ability to be the ball playing 12. His defence is superb also so i reckon he could be starting
12. Burrel was struggling to
Make wc squad but this Manu incident seals
His place.
I worry about our game plan and style. I still believe we should play a limited game and squeeze teams with our pack. Have a wall midfield and a pace on wings.
We are not set up to play a good expansive game. Our options at 9 are poor. I would have Murray Webb Perenara smith Genia Phipps reinach tillous borde, gori, laidlaw, foetuali, all ahead of our options.
Care's loss of form is massive as he is far and away our best.
12. Burrel was struggling to
Make wc squad but this Manu incident seals
His place.
I worry about our game plan and style. I still believe we should play a limited game and squeeze teams with our pack. Have a wall midfield and a pace on wings.
We are not set up to play a good expansive game. Our options at 9 are poor. I would have Murray Webb Perenara smith Genia Phipps reinach tillous borde, gori, laidlaw, foetuali, all ahead of our options.
Care's loss of form is massive as he is far and away our best.
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You need a balance though Fluxy, Tuilagi would have been perfect at no12 as a guy to suck in defenders, get us over the gainline and create space for JJ and the backs.
I think Nowell will get in as he is deceptively good at getting over the gain line and making ground. He's not the quickest but he looks like the player we need to do the hard yards.
Would also have May, just for his kick chase ability - have to say we had the worst kick chase game in the 6Nations. Having someone as good as May would give us another good attacking outlet for Ford.
Can see our backline being:
9. Youngs
10. Ford
11. May
12. Barritt
13. JJ
14. Nowell
15. Brown
I think Nowell will get in as he is deceptively good at getting over the gain line and making ground. He's not the quickest but he looks like the player we need to do the hard yards.
Would also have May, just for his kick chase ability - have to say we had the worst kick chase game in the 6Nations. Having someone as good as May would give us another good attacking outlet for Ford.
Can see our backline being:
9. Youngs
10. Ford
11. May
12. Barritt
13. JJ
14. Nowell
15. Brown
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Not the backline I would go for
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Imagine that will be the backline selected.
Personally would have
9 Simpson
10 Ford
11 May
12 Barritt
13 JJ
14 Watson
15 Brown
Pack would be
1 Marler ( been great and Corbs struggling to make squad as looks finished)
2 Hartley( he can throw Youngs cant)
3 Wilson
4 launchbury
5 Lawes
6 Wood
7 Kvesic( I know Robshaw will be in but think Kvesic works better)
8 BV
I would look to strangle opposition to death with that pack knowing we have great bench in forwards to come on
Personally would have
9 Simpson
10 Ford
11 May
12 Barritt
13 JJ
14 Watson
15 Brown
Pack would be
1 Marler ( been great and Corbs struggling to make squad as looks finished)
2 Hartley( he can throw Youngs cant)
3 Wilson
4 launchbury
5 Lawes
6 Wood
7 Kvesic( I know Robshaw will be in but think Kvesic works better)
8 BV
I would look to strangle opposition to death with that pack knowing we have great bench in forwards to come on
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Re: Season 7 Homepage VIII
"We are not set up to play a good expansive game. Our options at 9 are poor. I would have Murray Webb Perenara smith Genia Phipps reinach tillous borde, gori, laidlaw, foetuali, all ahead of our options."
Really?
Only players I'll give you there are Smith & Murray, Youngs is much better than the others.
Genia - dreadful form, at best 3rd choice in Aus
TJ - his pass is as straight as Julian Clarey!
TB - decent but nowhere near Youngs
Reinach & Laidlaw - better than Youngs?
Webb - looking decent at level but comprehensively outplayed by Youngs in the 6N.
Youngs had a great 6N and is bang on form. Wigglesworth and Care are great options to have the wings, 9 is a great position for us.
Really?
Only players I'll give you there are Smith & Murray, Youngs is much better than the others.
Genia - dreadful form, at best 3rd choice in Aus
TJ - his pass is as straight as Julian Clarey!
TB - decent but nowhere near Youngs
Reinach & Laidlaw - better than Youngs?
Webb - looking decent at level but comprehensively outplayed by Youngs in the 6N.
Youngs had a great 6N and is bang on form. Wigglesworth and Care are great options to have the wings, 9 is a great position for us.
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JJ has been streets ahead of Daly this season.
Cips a good bet for 10. Luke Wallace been good when I've seen him. Sinoti outstanding.
Cips a good bet for 10. Luke Wallace been good when I've seen him. Sinoti outstanding.
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I'd take Clifford above Wallace by a fair bit Steve, he's been outstanding.
JJ has certainly performed better in Ints and is a much better player but in the AP I think Daly shades it.
JJ has certainly performed better in Ints and is a much better player but in the AP I think Daly shades it.
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Haven't seen much of Francis but he's struggling against Lewis-Roberts here
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I've just watched him smash them but only flicked over. He's raw but very powerful, destroyed some good LH's this season.
Haywood & Cole have been great at the breakdown, Haywood just knocked Salvi in next week with a hit.
Haywood & Cole have been great at the breakdown, Haywood just knocked Salvi in next week with a hit.
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Burns playing well. Him and Youngs make a good combo when both are on form. Youngs is such a class act when playing like this, great news for England.
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Interesting inclusions in the initial 50 man squad
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11610157/Sam-Burgess-will-be-named-in-Englands-World-Cup-training-squad.html
Burgess there as they feel we lack ball carriers, but sounds like Itoje and Cowan-Dickie are really pushing to make WC squad too.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11610157/Sam-Burgess-will-be-named-in-Englands-World-Cup-training-squad.html
Burgess there as they feel we lack ball carriers, but sounds like Itoje and Cowan-Dickie are really pushing to make WC squad too.
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Cowan Dickie will not make the WC squad, same as Itoje won't.
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Lot of papers currently mentioning that they both have very good chances of making it though and they usually have some inside information. I can't see Cowan Dickie making it, as you'd assume Webber was 3rd choice, but Itoje impresses me more and more each time I see him play - Attwood needs to have a good play off and final to make sure he gets that 4th lock spot.
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There's no room in a 31 to carry someone. Cowan Dickie is miles away, his darts can be awful. Less so Itoje but he's very raw, there's plenty of better options.
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Itoje is at times a penalty machine. i would be seriously worried about him at international level right now.
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The WC will come too soon for LCD, but think he will step up quite a lot after RWC for England. He's going to be first choice no2 for England.
There just seems something about Itoje where he steps up at whatever level he plays. Just looks like an England captain in waiting - again probably too soon, but I'm not sure how much more guys like Attwood (current form) and Slater (size for international lock) would offer in his place.
SJE has a gem there.
There just seems something about Itoje where he steps up at whatever level he plays. Just looks like an England captain in waiting - again probably too soon, but I'm not sure how much more guys like Attwood (current form) and Slater (size for international lock) would offer in his place.
SJE has a gem there.
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Too early to tell if LCD will step up internationally I think. His throwing is pretty dreadful but to be expected as he's only been playing hooker for a few years.
I always liked him as a LH at U20 level but unconvinced so far at hooker, time will tell.
Think Driver sold him and Slade in his first few weeks after taking over from me at Falcons in some terrible deal the little bugger.
I always liked him as a LH at U20 level but unconvinced so far at hooker, time will tell.
Think Driver sold him and Slade in his first few weeks after taking over from me at Falcons in some terrible deal the little bugger.
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