Great News - Barnes will not be reffing any Ireland pool games...

...unless a scheduled ref mysteriously retires or steps down at the last minute again. I predict he will be given Ireland's quarter though if we get there.

List of ref apointments here:

http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/news/78669

The appointments for the knock-out stages will be made after the pool stage.

Irelands record under Barnes in the last 10 years:

Match List:

Sources:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/mar/24/england-referees-elite-panel
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/pascal-pape-appeals-10-week-ban-for-kneeing-jamie-heaslip-1.2120489
http://stats.espnscrum.com/statsguru/rugby/stats/index.html?class=1;orderby=date;spanmin1=01+jan+2005;spanval1=span;team=3;template=results;type=team;view=match
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/7370102/Henry-suspected-match-fixing-after-07-loss

You just know he's pencilled in for your quarter final against New Zealand!

Ireland have mainly Sunday games. I guess that means a lot of sickies on Monday mornings...


England's are Friday (for the opener) and then three Saturdays (all 20:00). Nice

Cyril wrote:You just know he's pencilled in for your quarter final against New Zealand!

Ireland have mainly Sunday games. I guess that means a lot of sickies on Monday mornings...


England's are Friday (for the opener) and then three Saturdays (all 20:00). Nice

If Ireland play NZ in the quarters and Barnes refs it Im guessing both teams will lose.

GunsGerms wrote:

Cyril wrote:You just know he's pencilled in for your quarter final against New Zealand!

Ireland have mainly Sunday games. I guess that means a lot of sickies on Monday mornings...


England's are Friday (for the opener) and then three Saturdays (all 20:00). Nice

If Ireland play NZ in the quarters and Barnes refs it Im guessing both teams will lose.

Yeah, hope so.

Haha. I bet you do.

That's a blow.....

In the "Ireland get your excuse in early" sweepstake I drew Barnes.

Well whaddyaknow....Nigel to referee Ireland's win against France. What a surprise.

#HomeRun

No further proof needed that rugby is corrupt at the top.

I'm absolutely delighted with getting our ref Nigel Owens. Thank you so much IRFU and thank you Mr Owens

Also absolutely delighted IRFU have ensured that Barnes will not be reffing us. How that numpty gets to ref in the World Cup I don't know.

IRFU just have to make sure we avoid Barnes after we qualify out of the group.

Quite happy with the England assignments, too. Garces for Eng v Wal, Poite for Eng v Aus. I imagine Mr Rowntree is pretty pleased too.

Nigel will have his hands full with Hodges and Barnes to actually ref the game!

shameless

Owens once went 150 minutes without awarding France a penalty in back to back 6Nation games with Ireland.

#16thMan.

#Legend

Why were France and Ireland playing twice?

I'm more concerned about his timekeeping than anything else. If Ireland have to play France for 150 minutes in the World Cup it will be hard to recover for the quarter-finals.

Did they just hit a replay? Maybe it was the year they didn't play, they just doubled up the time after?

shameless

#bestrefintheworld

2 and a half hours straight rugby against the French without conceding a penalty.

Only one man in the world would let Ireland do that. And he's going to get them to a semi final.

#corrupt.

#seeyouinthefinalnige

Chunky Norwich wrote:2 and a half hours straight rugby against the French without conceding a penalty.

#discipline

#16thMan

Lets just hope the right France turn up and take the decision out of Nigel's biased hands.

Chunky Norwich wrote:Lets just hope the right France turn up and take the decision out of Nigel's biased hands.

So IReland 50 - 0 then?

Haterz gonna hate

I CANNOT believe we are again having Joubert ref us against Australia! Someone up there has a great sense of humour... Any slim chance we had of beating those pesky Wallabies is extinguished.

Getting Joubert against the Aussies could be a disadvantage alright. Personally though I have a feeling Australia will beat England and then Wales will finally beat the Aussies in the group stages. England and Australia will then advance on points.

Don Alfonso wrote:Haterz gonna hate

The Irish certainly do see to hate Barnes.

Poorfour wrote:Quite happy with the England assignments, too. Garces for Eng v Wal, Poite for Eng v Aus. I imagine Mr Rowntree is pretty pleased too.

Ireland should be pleased that Barnes is officiating, he's one of the best Referees at top level there is.

Jimpy wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Quite happy with the England assignments, too. Garces for Eng v Wal, Poite for Eng v Aus. I imagine Mr Rowntree is pretty pleased too.

Ireland should be pleased that Barnes is officiating, he's one of the best Referees at top level there is.

We are pleased....as long as he is not reffing any of our games.

Top referee  Garces controversial decision very probably cost Ulster a semi final place, but I would still much rather have Garces ref us than Barnes.

Munchkin wrote:

Jimpy wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Quite happy with the England assignments, too. Garces for Eng v Wal, Poite for Eng v Aus. I imagine Mr Rowntree is pretty pleased too.

Ireland should be pleased that Barnes is officiating, he's one of the best Referees at top level there is.

We are pleased....as long as he is not reffing any of our games.

Top referee  Garces controversial decision very probably cost Ulster a semi final place, but I would still much rather have Garces ref us than Barnes.

Ah, the never ending 'Barnes costs Ireland matches' theory.

Hilarious.

Jimpy wrote:

Ah, the never ending 'Barnes costs Ireland matches' theory.

Hilarious.

Its a good think Wales fans never blame Allan Rolland for their World cup exit.

GunsGerms wrote:Getting Joubert against the Aussies could be a disadvantage alright. Personally though I have a feeling Australia will beat England and then Wales will finally beat the Aussies in the group stages. England and Australia will then advance on points.

I think having Romain Poite refereeing the Eng v Aus game (and Joubert refereeing Wal v Aus) makes that scenario significantly less likely. Barring an injury crisis of massive (England) or moderate (Wales) proportions, both England and Wales will have a setpiece advantage over Australia, and of all the international referees Poite is the one who will give them the most opportunity to exploit it. By the same token. Joubert is much less sympathetic to the dominant team in the scrum and may nullify Wales's advantage.

England will also be pleased with Garces for the Wales game - another ref who will allow strong scrums to use their edge. England and Wales are more evenly matched, but I would expect England to get an advantage as the game goes on due to the negligible gap in ability between their starting and bench props. I could only see that being reversed if our backup hooker really isn't up to it.

Jimpy wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

Jimpy wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Quite happy with the England assignments, too. Garces for Eng v Wal, Poite for Eng v Aus. I imagine Mr Rowntree is pretty pleased too.

Ireland should be pleased that Barnes is officiating, he's one of the best Referees at top level there is.

We are pleased....as long as he is not reffing any of our games.

Top referee  Garces controversial decision very probably cost Ulster a semi final place, but I would still much rather have Garces ref us than Barnes.

Ah, the never ending 'Barnes costs Ireland matches' theory.

Hilarious.

What's hilarious is you imagining that I stated something which I clearly didn't. I just don't like Barnes. I don't think he is a good ref. I'm not a fan of Clancy either or Hodges. There you go.

Keep laughing, Jimpy, but the laughs on you.

This thread has turned out well (and not at predictably)

I used to think Joubert had it in for Wales. It turns out that he just shouldn't officiate a NH vs SH game. He seems to allow a bit of a free-for-all at the breakdown, but then gets bored and penalises the NH team for try to play the 'SH way.'

well Owens ... how predictable and annoying.

on the other hand Garces reffing Ireland vs Italy just before that game. prediction : Healy and Kearney red carded for actually jumping

Gas the way England's bogey ref mysteriously retired months before the world cup started for "business reasons".

Munchkin wrote:

Jimpy wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

Jimpy wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Quite happy with the England assignments, too. Garces for Eng v Wal, Poite for Eng v Aus. I imagine Mr Rowntree is pretty pleased too.

Ireland should be pleased that Barnes is officiating, he's one of the best Referees at top level there is.

We are pleased....as long as he is not reffing any of our games.

Top referee  Garces controversial decision very probably cost Ulster a semi final place, but I would still much rather have Garces ref us than Barnes.

Ah, the never ending 'Barnes costs Ireland matches' theory.

Hilarious.

What's hilarious is you imagining that I stated something which I clearly didn't. I just don't like Barnes. I don't think he is a good ref. I'm not a fan of Clancy either or Hodges. There you go.

Keep laughing, Jimpy, but the laughs on you.

Oh... know him personally do you? Or, alternatively, you don't like Barnes because you disagree with the way he officiates. It is a rather hackneyed opinion that Barnes cost Ireland an important game or two, because of his officiating. Or are you not on that particular bandwagon?

I think we have won something like 3 of the last 13 or so games Barnes has reffed. I definitely think he is a dodgy ref. At the very least he is outrageously inconsistent. Basically he isnt fit for International games IMO. Too much at stake to have amatures like him on board.

GunsGerms wrote:I think we have won something like 3 of the last 13 or so games Barnes has reffed. I definitely think he is a dodgy ref. At the very least he is outrageously inconsistent. Basically he isnt fit for International games IMO. Too much at stake to have amatures like him on board.

Or maybe it is because Ireland were not the better team in those encounters, or were unable to adapt to the style in which those games were refereed.

Barnes was one of the most consistent referees in the last 6N. Several well qualified commentators and pundits agreed.

Jimpy wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

Jimpy wrote:

Munchkin wrote:

Jimpy wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Quite happy with the England assignments, too. Garces for Eng v Wal, Poite for Eng v Aus. I imagine Mr Rowntree is pretty pleased too.

Ireland should be pleased that Barnes is officiating, he's one of the best Referees at top level there is.

We are pleased....as long as he is not reffing any of our games.

Top referee  Garces controversial decision very probably cost Ulster a semi final place, but I would still much rather have Garces ref us than Barnes.

Ah, the never ending 'Barnes costs Ireland matches' theory.

Hilarious.

What's hilarious is you imagining that I stated something which I clearly didn't. I just don't like Barnes. I don't think he is a good ref. I'm not a fan of Clancy either or Hodges. There you go.

Keep laughing, Jimpy, but the laughs on you.

Oh... know him personally do you? Or, alternatively, you don't like Barnes because you disagree with the way he officiates. It is a rather hackneyed opinion that Barnes cost Ireland an important game or two, because of his officiating. Or are you not on that particular bandwagon?

I don't like Barnes as a ref because of the way he officiates. I simply think he's a very poor ref.

Ref's do cost games. It happens. Not always because they are biased, but mostly because they happen to make mistakes. And, no, I am not on that particular bandwagon.

Barnes has cost Quins a few games, too. But Conor O'Shea recently said that given a choice of all refs he would happily have Wayne referee all our games.

WB is nowhere near as dodgy as Walsh was. But he has very specific things he looks for, especially in the scrum and breakdown, and sometimes misses other things as a result .

Personally , I prefer Poite's style of refereeing a sequence of events. But to each his own.

Poorfour wrote:Barnes has cost Quins a few games, too. But Conor O'Shea recently said that given a choice of all refs he would happily have Wayne referee all our games.

I find Barnes a bit fussy, but then so are most refs. I am always worried if he is reffing when we play Quins as his style favours you over us, but when we play Saints his style favours us over them.

The OP has stated in the past that Barnes is deliberately biased against Ireland and deliberately penalises them more than the opposition. Easier to claim corruption than accept that his own team are too dim to understand and adapt to the refs style.

Poorfour wrote:Barnes has cost Quins a few games, too. But Conor O'Shea recently said that given a choice of all refs he would happily have Wayne referee all our games.

That says more about the standard of refs in the Aviva.

WB is nowhere near as dodgy as Walsh was. But he has very specific things he looks for, especially in the scrum and breakdown, and sometimes misses other things as a result .

Personally , I prefer Poite's style of refereeing a sequence of events. But to each his own.

Walsh had improved a lot in recent years. Barnes is a poor communicator and talks at players. He should never ref internationals involving Wales as he went to school there.

Jimpy wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:I think we have won something like 3 of the last 13 or so games Barnes has reffed. I definitely think he is a dodgy ref. At the very least he is outrageously inconsistent. Basically he isnt fit for International games IMO. Too much at stake to have amatures like him on board.

Or maybe it is because Ireland were not the better team in those encounters, or were unable to adapt to the style in which those games were refereed.

Barnes was one of the most consistent referees in the last 6N. Several well qualified commentators and pundits agreed.

Consistently rubbish alright. If it looks like a turd and smells like a turd it usually is a turd.

I am torn on this. Although I generally feel that Barnes is one of the best referee's in the world, Ireland do loose far too often when he is refereeing.

You could argue that Ireland have to adjust better to him but that is not always so easy. I actually thought that Ireland did adjust better to him than Wales did in the 6N but still came out on the loosing end. Not Barnes' fault that loss.

eirebilly wrote:I am torn on this. Although I generally feel that Barnes is one of the best referee's in the world, Ireland do loose far too often when he is refereeing.

You could argue that Ireland have to adjust better to him but that is not always so easy. I actually thought that Ireland did adjust better to him than Wales did in the 6N but still came out on the loosing end. Not Barnes' fault that loss.

Cyril has hacked billsers account!