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Post by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:36 am

Sky Sports reporting that Ward is in talks to face Kovalev with the likely date to be in the new year. Talks have apparently been been 'productive'. Probably still some way to go but this is a fight to get the juices flowing...unless Mayweather calls out Gavin Rees

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:57 am

Poor old GGG.............

First Froch retires to duck him and now Ward is moving up to face the main man at 175 and is ducking him.... Sad Sad ...

Fancy Ward for this.........Take kovo's pop away and I'm not sure he's all that !!..




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Post by Dipper Brown Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:25 am

What's Stevenson's game then?

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Post by hazharrison Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:27 am

Easier said than done. Kovalev isn't a one punch plodder like Pavlik and Cloud (who Hopkins defrocked). He's a volume puncher who has pop in everything he throws.

If Ward signs for this one it will be hugely impressive. It probably won't be a great fight as Ward doesn't make for those but it's a tremendous challenge. That's what makes a fighter great.

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Post by Guest Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:33 am

Hoppo says he's ready to face GGG

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Post by hazharrison Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:36 am

DAVE667 wrote:Hoppo says he's ready to face GGG

He's the first guy to actively petition for the fight. Some balls on him Hopkins.

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Post by AdamT Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:00 am

After Ward beats Kov, he should call out GGG for a fight at 168.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:11 am

hazharrison wrote:
DAVE667 wrote:Hoppo says he's ready to face GGG

He's the first guy to actively petition for the fight. Some balls on him Hopkins.

Shut up...

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Post by Lance Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:17 am

Lara anyone?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:20 am

He's fought nobody in 5 years Lance baby....and it's everybody else's fault.

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Post by AdamT Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:22 am

Gennady's team are doing a great job. He will be rated p4p number 1 when Floyds gone, and his best win will be Murray.


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Post by hazharrison Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:45 am

Lance wrote:Lara anyone?

Ah yeah, my bad - he calls out everyone (and then runs during the fight). Weird how it's two negative spoilers who are actively seeking the fight. Looks like GGG's trying to round up all the belts so they'd need a title at 160 I reckon.


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Post by Dipper Brown Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:08 am

GGG at the moment, in gentleman's terms, is going to the bar, leaving with a 15 stone rotter and getting lauded as the world's biggest Lothario. Then he meets up with his mates the next day and says he could have banged any bird in the bar if they weren't so frigid!

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Post by Lance Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:19 am

Hopkins would earn GGG his biggest payday. No need for a belt.

Can see why GGG is scared of Lara. Wouldnt land a thing and his team knosw it. Funny how people arent so quick to judge when its the puncher who doesnt want the fight

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:26 am

Ward : " I went up to GGG'S manager and said what's all this ducking stuff you've been saying.....He had a sheepish grin on his face and started looking at the floor"...

Say no more !!!..

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Post by AdamT Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:32 am

Ward wins easy, always said this.

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Post by hazharrison Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:40 am

Ha ha! The Golovkin backlash has started before he even made it big. Standard boxing forum craic.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:42 am

Been a champ for 5 years and fought F*** all..

Give it a rest..

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Post by hazharrison Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:45 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Been a champ for 5 years and fought F*** all..

Give it a rest..

Cotto's the champ. Golovkin will clean house at 160 - like it or not.

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Post by Dipper Brown Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:49 am

I like Golovkin, just wish he'd fight someone. Seems happy trading on his reputation knocking out B listers. If he was serious about making a fight against an elite fighter, he wouldn't be calling out welterweights and super middles.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:50 am

Earning good money for stiffs though isn't he...


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Post by hazharrison Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:52 am

Dipper Brown wrote:I like Golovkin, just wish he'd fight someone. Seems happy trading on his reputation knocking out B listers. If he was serious about making a fight against an elite fighter, he wouldn't be calling out welterweights and super middles.

Yep, he needs a big fight. Think he'll take Lemieux and then hopefully Canelo/Cotto.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:07 am

GGG = The boy who cried wolf.........

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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:12 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:GGG = The boy who cried wolf.........

Would the Lemeiux fight satisfy you Truss?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:19 am

No Wheelie............but hey I seem to be in the minority..

No one can take Haz seriously on this issue.... But other normally sensible posters seem to think beating Geale and Macklin = Top fighter.......

Whilst deriding Ward and Mayweather for beating Manny, Froch types.......

It's all gone mad Wheelie..

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Post by kingraf Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:22 am

Has Ozzy softened on the Lemmy fight? He last spoke of letting it "marinate" for a year.
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Post by wheelchair1991 Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:28 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:No Wheelie............but hey I seem to be in the minority..

No one can take Haz seriously on this issue.... But other normally sensible posters seem to think beating Geale and Macklin = Top fighter.......

Whilst deriding Ward and Mayweather for beating Manny, Froch types.......

It's all gone mad Wheelie..

I have nothing but respect for Floyd and Andre

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Post by RatBoy66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:34 am

And let us pray. Please, please, please, please not at catchweight... Somehow I doubt it.

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Post by tunes666 Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:17 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Poor old GGG.............

First Froch retires to duck him and now Ward is moving up to face the main man at 175 and is ducking him.... Sad  Sad  ...

Fancy Ward for this.........Take kovo's pop away and I'm not sure he's all that !!..




If he is Moving up a weight to fight an undefeated champ, who has an 86% KO ratio and who is crushing everything in sight, is hardy what I call the act of ducking... What has GGG done that proves he is a harder fight than Kovalev, who is also the bigger man..

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Post by RanjitPatel Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:41 am

There's plenty of people on other forums that have already called this ducking GGG so there is precedence there.

This fights been.talked about a while, apparently, so hopefully it gets made now. I've got to say that I doubt that Ward takes that power. He'll be the favourite, and rightly so skills wise but stepping up since his first time since the Olympics with only a handful of fights in the past 5 years, I think its Kovalevs to lose.

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Post by tunes666 Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:54 am

RanjitPatel wrote:There's plenty of people on other forums that have already called this ducking GGG so there is precedence there.

This fights been.talked about a while, apparently, so hopefully it gets made now. I've got to say that I doubt that Ward takes that power. He'll be the favourite, and rightly so skills wise but stepping up since his first time since the Olympics with only a handful of fights in the past 5 years, I think its Kovalevs to lose.

So these people must be dismissing the fact that Kovalev is just as good if not better than GGG, and going up to fight him will be an extremely tough fight and a fantastic win.

If he fights GGG and wins, there is always the chance people will put it down to GGG not having the same effect at a higher weight.. and probably not actually as big a fight at a Kovalev fight.

Why if Kovalev offered him the fight and he fought GGG would that not be ducking Kovalev?


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Post by Dipper Brown Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:25 pm

You can't 'duck' someone who isn't in your weight division. That's the way I see it. It's alright for fans to be making fantasy fights between champions but they're exactly that, fantasy.

Golovkin isn't a super middle so it's not like Ward is abandoning that division to escape him. Laughable for anyone to call him a coward after he's beaten 168lbs beasts like Froch and Kessler. Even more laughable if he's jumping up to fight Kovalev.

Don't mind the praise GGG gets, he's a really good fighter and I'd like to see how good he can become. But the big bad wolf he is not.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:45 pm

Ward could always insist the GGG fight is a 172 catchweight or something....

and definitely f**k him....But he knows the Golden-Russian is full of crap..

Fanboy bollox.........GGG and Kovo aren't American or British so they walk on water..

GGG has been champion five years..........Let's have a look ;

Ouma, Simon, Nuna, Tapia, Fuchigama, Proksa, Rosada, Ishida, Macklin, Stevens, Adama, Geale, Rubio and Monroe jr...

and we have Quigg, Mayweather, Brook, Ward and Khan types taking s**t !!!!!

Makes a sensible man want to cry !! Crying or Very sad

Still we must get behind him because "He's a real fighter!!".. Cool

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Post by hazharrison Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:57 pm

Ward and Golovkin haven't ever ducked a fight - anyone who suggests otherwise is merely trolling and should be ignored.

Golovkin is aiming to take over 160. As the likes of Cotto, Sturm, Quillen and Martinez weren't interested in facing him (for whatever reason) he's been left to churn up any fighters that were. With Ward and now Froch exiting 168, there isn't anything up there tempting enough to deter Golovkin from his aim of taking over at middleweight. Cotto, Canelo, Lemieux and Lee are all interesting fights with the likes of Saunders, Eubank and Ogogo coming up on the rails.

Ward has already wiped out 168 and so I can see the attraction in moving on. Kovalev, Stevenson and Beterbiev are all monsters who'd provide huge challenges for him.

Once Golovkin wins the championship at 160, I'm sure he'll be open to big fights at 168 (if there are any - usually fighters will gravitate towards the special ones - meaning the big fights could come to Golovkin).

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Post by Mr Bounce Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:53 am

I think Ward's hiatus due to his promoter problems may have made him tight at the weight. 18 months away from making 168lbs has probably madessure he won't fight in that division again.

The Kovalev fight makes perfect sense. The best at 168 (from 2 years ago) taking on the best at 175. Could be a very interesting bout. It's clear Stevenson and Kovalev aren't going to fight each other so let's get this fight on. It's a pick 'em for me.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:53 am

I think Ward's hiatus due to his promoter problems may have made him tight at the weight. 18 months away from making 168lbs has probably made sure he won't fight in that division again.

The Kovalev fight makes perfect sense. The best at 168 (from 2 years ago) taking on the best at 175. Could be a very interesting bout. It's clear Stevenson and Kovalev aren't going to fight each other so let's get this fight on. It's a pick 'em for me.


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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Sun Jul 19, 2015 7:34 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Ward : " I went up to GGG'S manager and said what's all this ducking stuff you've been saying.....He had a sheepish grin on his face and started looking at the floor"...

Say no more !!!..

Ah a quote with no source...............must be gospel then Laugh

Typical redneck.


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Post by Steffan Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:53 pm

Funnily enough I was talking to some people from Boston during the week

I didn't get around to discussing boxing with them but I should have asked if 'American Ward beats European bums Kovalev and Golovkin on the same night' is a Boston thing...

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