Montreal Masters

Started yesterday. Who's going to win it then?

Federer not playing. I voted for Djokovic.

Order of play here. Kyrgios v Verdasco looks interesting.

http://www.couperogers.com/en/schedules-and-results/order-of-play/

Djokovic will very likely win it. Thats boring though so ive punted on Nadal, we need him back.

temporary21 wrote:Djokovic will very likely win it. Thats boring though so ive punted on Nadal, we need him back.

How I love your sentiment temp.. and how I hope you are so right..

4 votes for Rafa? Can't see it myself.

The Dog v Dimitrov would be fun to watch.

Cant see it ,??? matters not.
We can wish and hope God knows he is needed
As temp says its getting boring now

To the court itself. They've put these bright red borders on the barriers. It really distracting as you watch!

Gone for Nishikori. Novak has to slip at some point and his focus won't be high here. I don't think Andy will beat Robredo and Rafa is very unlikely to suddenly find hard court form. No one else looks plausible.

I've gone for Rafa. Despite it all, he's one elite title (MS/GS/WTF) from a reasonably good post surgery year (with the caveat that at 29, he probably does not have enough time for gradual improvements)

Kyrgios is basically a complete dick. It's not 'being a character' or some kind of endearing quality. He's just an ignorant git who I wish only defeat and career bad luck on.

Just got a code violation didn't he?

bogbrush wrote:Kyrgios is basically a complete dick. It's not 'being a character' or some kind of endearing quality. He's just an ignorant git who I wish only defeat and career bad luck on.

Hooray to that !!... save us from the new face of tennis

Djoko for me. Anyone know if it's raining again? They should have started by now.

Solid win by Rafa just now, some great shots "of old," so not bad for a first match back on HC for a while...

Cilic lost 1st set to Tomic...

Murray at 4-4, 1st set...

Monfils has two pts for 6-6 in 3rd set...

& Querrey doing hard battle w/Goffin...

Still plenty of good tennis left today....

Kyrgios told Wawrinka that Kokawhatsiname slept with his girlfriend during their match.

discuss.

He's just a douche really isn't he

kingraf wrote:Kyrgios told Wawrinka that Kokawhatsiname slept with his girlfriend during their match.

discuss.

You're kidding. Surely?

kingraf wrote:Kyrgios told Wawrinka that Kokawhatsiname slept with his girlfriend during their match.

discuss.

He's an idiot.

I'm not against a bit of trash talk per se, but it should at least have a touch of wit about it.

What he said was just pathetically puerile.

Reports say that Stan was upset enough to denounce Kyrgios on Twitter, asking for the authorities to do something about it.
The Australian was completely out of order but you would have thought an old hand like Stan would have just ignored it.
Kyrgios is in danger of wasting his talent. Anyone can be a complete Muppet but hardly anyone can play tennis really well.

I see Kyrgios' defence is that Wawrinka was 'getting lippy' with him. Is sledging that common in tennis? I know there have been a few clashes before, but didn't think it happened that often.

He's just a bit of a spoilt brat. I switch between finding him amusing and dissappointing. Even the insult is a bit of a playground insult, surprised Stan has risen to it really.

I like Kyrgios and enjoy watching him play, but he needs to grow up.

Its unclear whether Stan heard him at the time - I would guess he probably didn't. Seems perfectly reasonable for Stan to say afterwards that its unacceptable though - I can't imagine Vekic is pleased about details of her private life being shouted out on a tennis court.

Don't care who wins now. Just that someone cuts this prat down to size. In real life that comments would have you in the floor, that is just not good enough. Not witty not funny just a total prat

One of Kyrgios, Isner, Karlovic & Chardy will be contesting a masters semi-final.

bogbrush wrote:

kingraf wrote:Kyrgios told Wawrinka that Kokawhatsiname slept with his girlfriend during their match.

discuss.

You're kidding. Surely?

You would think so. But I'm really not.

Nick Kyrgios wrote: He was getting a bit lippy with me. Kind of in the heat of the moment, I don’t know. I just said it.

Unbelievable. Probably the nastiest, most offensive thing I've ever heard was uttered on a tennis court.

If they give warnings for swear words I don't know what this should receive. I think a punch in the face followed by a round of applause would probably be the most appropriate.

What a piece of cr@p!

I think a few punches to the face would suffice.

I'm a bit surprised by the outrage to be honest. It was obviously not very pleasant and a bit personal, but he hasn't said anything that bad.

To me it seems more immature than anything.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/33903356

At least we now know why he's such a tw@t, judging by his mothers contribution.

I know it's bad but if Kyrgios didn't use an audible obscenity I'm struggling to see what rule he broke.

What I find more shocking is the amount of you guys that think Nadal has a better chance of winning this than Murray or Nishikori.

Guest82 wrote:I'm a bit surprised by the outrage to be honest.  It was obviously not very pleasant and a bit personal, but he hasn't said anything that bad.  

To me it seems more immature than anything.

Come on man, there's banter and there's crossing the line.

Immaturity seems to be the default excuse given for him. What is he? 12?

bogbrush wrote:

Guest82 wrote:I'm a bit surprised by the outrage to be honest.  It was obviously not very pleasant and a bit personal, but he hasn't said anything that bad.  

To me it seems more immature than anything.

Come on man, there's banter and there's crossing the line.

Immaturity seems to be the default excuse given for him. What is he? 12?

I agree, it's a bit personal to be considered 'banter' but I'd guess there has been far worse said on court before, certainly has in other sports. I would like to hear what Stan said to him, which he described as "lippy"

XXX slept with your girlfriend is such a childish statement to make. I just view it as very immature and not really that insulting.

So that being the case what next??? what has to be said that is insulting and something is done about it. Its kindergarten "humour" I suppose and it should be allowed because after all the boy hasn't grown up yet has he and he is competing in a man's world
I would like to say that he opens his mouth before he puts his brain in to gear but I am seriously doubting whether he has one

Not at Montreal...  BUT WHAT A SHOT!!!

https://embed.gyazo.com/cadfc687c98be5f3babf7f5e6c4f5d81.gif

Nishioka!

Haddie-nuff wrote:So that being the case what next??? what has to be said that is insulting and something is done about it. Its kindergarten "humour" I suppose and it should be allowed because after all the boy hasn't grown up yet has he and he is competing in a man's world
I would like to say that he opens his mouth before he puts his brain in to gear but I am seriously doubting whether he has one

People swearing on court? Kyrgios himself does this...but also Murray and, even, Federer has previously.

Del Potro insulting Murrays mother. Don't remember what was said, but remember Murray being upset because he had bought his mother into it.

These are off the top of my head and potentialy more insulting. I think what he said was the sort of thing that gets thrown around by 18/19 year old lads full of testosterone all the time. Once older and mature no one finds this sort of thing funny or acceptable. Or really that insulting.

I'd not be that insulted if someone told me that someone else had slept with my wife. I'd laugh at it.

Its the context as well though. Wawrinka has recently left his wife and the comments were directed at his new gf. The ATP has its reputation to uphold, and if they accept personal insults, which is what it is, it will go up in flames.

Swearing can be forgiven, primarily because it can be the product of frustration, same as raquet breaking. His comments are personal and arent that of a child, theyre of a thug and he needs to be dealt with like one.

His age is a pee pee poor excuse, hes competing with adults and must act like one, its indefensible.

I only hope he meets roger in the near future, and Roger will teach him a real lesson on how to behave and win.

I'd not be that insulted if someone told me that someone else had slept with my wife. I'd laugh at it.

Really???? I wonder if your wife would think it that funny  Im glad you are not my husband..what if the person who did so was in your professional life and made such a comment to again financial advantage  and announced that juicy little comment in a public meeting.??
.  I would remind you that this was said in the middle of a tennis match in front of viewing thousands ??? In order to gain such an   advantage

Yes it was juvenile and as such unacceptable in the world of MEN'S professional tennis.

only hope he meets roger in the near future, and Roger will teach him a real lesson on how to behave and win.

Come on temp there are a few other players I could mention that could do that besides Fed
.

Yeah I means its the fact that its personal that goes too far, it embarrasses HER, she'll be in the papers now, as well as him.

If someone had a pop as Rogers wife and kids during a match, there would be damnation to pay, and rightly so.

He's been fined for it. They've not released how much the fine is.

I agree it is unacceptable, he should be punished and they can't allow it to keep on happening. But what he actually said wasn't really that bad.

Perhaps Kokkinakis did "bang" her before Stan and her got together. Everyone has a past...Stan would probably know about it. It's a very childish attempt to wind him up I think.

Haddie-nuff wrote:
only hope he meets roger in the near future, and Roger will teach him a real lesson on how to behave and win.

Come on temp there are a few other players I could mention that could do that  besides Fed
.

Theres a few for sure, but the standard bearer of the old guard would be the most poignant.

Haddie-nuff wrote:I'd not be that insulted if someone told me that someone else had slept with my wife. I'd laugh at it.

Really???? I wonder if your wife would think it that funny  Im glad you are not my husband..what if the person who did so was in your professional life and made such a comment to again financial advantage  and announced that juicy little comment in a public meeting.??
.  I would remind you that this was said in the middle of a tennis match in front of viewing thousands ??? In order to gain such an   advantage

Yes it was juvenile and as such unacceptable in the world of MEN'S professional tennis.

I think Kyrgios has come out of this looking a lot worse than Stan. Rightfully so too.

It's embarrassing for him and not for Stan.

Just realised he didnt say it to his face... coward...

The tennis world is ripping into him right now and good thing for it.

So are the Ozzie press.. saying he has lost the plot

To be honest, I think Wawrinka, who as we know is not averse to handling matters in the change room, handled it well. Didn't respond during the match. Didn't even really rant on twitter, just said it's disappointing for a colleague to do that.

I agree but then Stan has always been the quiet man hasn't he.
He says it best when he says nothing at all

Guest82 wrote:Perhaps Kokkinakis did "bang" her before Stan and her got together.  Everyone has a past...Stan would probably know about it.  

I'd have to say given Kokkinakis's age, that is stretching it a bit.

I think the points being missed. I dont think anyones thinking what he said really hurt stan, though hes put Kokkinakis and this lady right in it, its the gesture, the lack of respect and really crossing a line

legendkillarV2 wrote:

Guest82 wrote:Perhaps Kokkinakis did "bang" her before Stan and her got together.  Everyone has a past...Stan would probably know about it.  

I'd have to say given Kokkinakis's age, that is stretching it a bit.

Well I mean who knows... but its private is the point and theres no possibility of any public interest in it. It just crosses a line, when you look at the standard Roger and Rafa set way back, you see just how embarrassing it is.

temporary21 wrote:

legendkillarV2 wrote:

Guest82 wrote:Perhaps Kokkinakis did "bang" her before Stan and her got together.  Everyone has a past...Stan would probably know about it.  

I'd have to say given Kokkinakis's age, that is stretching it a bit.

Well I mean who knows... but its private is the point and theres no possibility of any public interest in it. It just crosses a line, when you look at the standard Roger and Rafa set way back, you see just how embarrassing it is.

Before Stan???

Think about that. We are talking 10 years ago!

Huh? Vekic and Kokkinakis were rumoured to be seeing each other last year - when both were 18. I suspect the comment is probably true. However, the language used shows a lack of respect for Vekic and was clearly intended to offend. A fine is insufficient in my view. Should have been more severe.

Isner and Kyrgios racing along - basically one minute per game this set. Isner a set up (courtesy of one shocking game from NK). 4-3 in the 2nd on serve.