Montreal Masters

by Guest82 Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:46 am

First topic message reminder :

Started yesterday. Who's going to win it then?

Federer not playing. I voted for Djokovic.

Order of play here. Kyrgios v Verdasco looks interesting.

http://www.couperogers.com/en/schedules-and-results/order-of-play/

by greengoblin Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:50 pm

Tennis is in such a weak era at the moment. Djokovic just being handed tournaments on a plate. No 2 is a 34 year old sustained only by past glories and a terribly weak chasing pack. Now we find out the guy who beat Djokovic at the French is having a premature midlife crisis and going from a 40 year old wife to bedding a 19 year old. I just hope Lendl can beat Dimitrov into shape and the authorities see sense with respect to the uniformly slow court conditions. Anything to get tennis out of this slump.

by LuvSports! Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:54 pm

socal1976 wrote:I honestly believe Murray is going to win this match based on current form. Murray I feel has been better and more consistent in this tournament plus Novak has a bit of an arm injury. I feel like Novak playing and making a deep run in doubles also breaks up his recovery and rest schedule this week. To me Djokovic has looked rusty this season.

This season!??!
As in 2015!??!

by Belovedluckyboy Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:57 pm

Novak not playing his best tennis here but as usual when it matters he can always up his level.

I'm one of those who predicted a Murray win the last few times they met, based on how well Murray played the earlier rounds and how not so well Novak played. Yet, each time, it's Novak who emerged as the winner! Hopefully this time a Murray win is for real, if not I really don't know when and how Murray is going to beat Novak.

by Haddie-nuff Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:01 pm

Now we find out the guy who beat Djokovic at the French is having a premature midlife crisis and going from a 40 year old wife to bedding a 19 year old

Come on gg that's a bit naughty... what has this got to do with the price of fish !!!???
The man is 30 years old he is not middle aged and not the first to have
a young girl friend.
Make your point about a weak period in tennis and I agree with you
Novak doesn't even have to get out of bed in the morning let alone get in it Rolling Eyes

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:09 pm

Come on Andy, slaughter him and make some canadian bacon boxing

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:13 pm

Djoko today has made his usual pre-match loss spare reason, complaining that its tough to play with his "injured hand", though he did play the doubles match less then 2 hours after the singles match.

Kokkinakis, being another Greek junk personality (about same value as Greek Gov. bonds) like his other greek friend Gyros Korgi, should of been decked by Harrison.

by temporary21 Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:15 pm

Ive missed the classy rhetoric you bring jahu

I have a funny feeling Murray might do it today, by which I mean hell get pasted to make me look a fool

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:17 pm

tempo, its more of a bored farm boy on a rainy day rhetoric, but hey, thx for the compliment Laugh

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:24 pm

Breaking news: If the HE says IN, does not matter if the HE shows the ball IN totally on the other side of the T, umpire says to Djoko then we go with the word IN. picard

by Born Slippy Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:32 pm

Fairly obvious the graphic showed it in anyway?

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:34 pm

In but on the wrong T side, umpire in a sense saying that the ball is IN by HE measure, even thought sometimes it might show wrong line.

by Born Slippy Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:37 pm

Well, we will have to agree to disagree. The very outside of the ball was in line with the centre service line - hence in.

Murray not doing well enough with the returns on the two break points. Playing perfect tennis to beat Novak though. Moving forward whenever possible.

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:40 pm

Ball was IN but on the other side of the service line, hence Djoko complaning to umpire and Fleming saying that cant be in?

Andy wasting BPs one after one, who gets the first set, wins Wink

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:42 pm

Andy breaks after so many BPs.

Keep it up, Djoko playing tired a little.

by Guest Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:43 pm

Murray to get broken now

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:48 pm

LK, stop spreading FUD Laugh

Andy 4:1 up Smile

Fleming with good advice for Andy: its worth it a few DF to keep pace on second serve in big moments.

by Guest Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:50 pm

Well I am astounded Jahu! :shocked:

by slashermcguirk Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:52 pm

Get the finger out Novak, playing utter tripe!

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:53 pm

Whats with Andys 99p Poundland shirt?

Even Djoko looking more stylish.

by slashermcguirk Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:53 pm

Mind you I would rather he plays dismal here than in New York

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:54 pm

Come on Andy, crush him 5:1.

Djoko to skip or just show up at Cincy.

by Guest Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:57 pm

Andy really going for his shots!

Think he's on the Jahu! Wink

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:02 pm

Yo Yo, 1 for LK Wink

Wake up Andyyyyy

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:04 pm

Andy taking the bait of a tired Djoko again warning

by slashermcguirk Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:07 pm

Djokovic 1st serve percentage feels way too low against a returner like Murray

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:12 pm

Andy go at the Net more often, it does note bite!!

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:14 pm

Umpire robs Andy.

by Guest Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:16 pm

I like Sky's optimism that this will be done by 10pm!

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:17 pm

Great hold from Andy.

by temporary21 Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:18 pm

Thats a big hold, nearly threw it away then. Its a great brand Murrays playing here, but needs to stop falling for the rope a dope

by temporary21 Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:23 pm

Great return, great set! Been good this

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:23 pm

Go Andy Go.

Second set even quicker now.

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:25 pm

tempo, please support Djoko, add to his minority fans a litte voice and to those russians with Gazprom shirts in the stadium Laugh

by CaledonianCraig Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:25 pm

Is it just me or is Murray hitting his shots quickly. By this I mean he seems to be returning his shots with greater pace (not necessarily on the ball) but I mean time-wise which is not allowing Novak so much time to set himself?

by HM Murdock Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:28 pm

Not watching but dipping in and out of the commentary. It's going as I kind thought it would.

There have been plenty of times this year when Novak has been below his best but wriggled off the hook. I didn't think Andy would let that happen if he got his chance today.

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:28 pm

CC comments and Andy gets broken.

Scottish mystery Laugh

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:31 pm

Wake up Andy, dont go to 3 sets

by Born Slippy Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:32 pm

What's the point in working so hard for the first set only to bot really turn up at the start of the 2nd? It was obvious Novak would come out firing. Murray instead has gone flat.

by temporary21 Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:33 pm

The reason he has 2 slams and Nole has 9. He lacks their killer instinct, and sort of goes away when hes up

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:34 pm

Andy given up this set already.

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:43 pm

Andy to break back now.

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:48 pm

Break now Andyyy do ittttt

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:51 pm

Andy breaks back. 3:3.

Super point.

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:53 pm

Crush him Andy, dont let go now, take it in 2.

by LuvSports! Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:56 pm

Broken.

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:56 pm

Holy icecream, Djoko breaks.

by temporary21 Sun Aug 16, 2015 9:57 pm

Nope, just doesnt have a throttle to bury it

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:08 pm

Better luck in 3rd Andy.

Crush it now from the start.

by Jahu Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:16 pm

Get those aces in Andy.

by YvonneT Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:17 pm

YvonneT wrote:So prior to any Cincy points being added (and last year's already off as mentioned above), the possible gaps between Federer & Murray (and scenarios for second seed at US Open) are:

Murray loses in Montreal SF: Fed 45 ahead (RF 8065, AM 8020)
Fed stays no.2 by matching Murray or better; if Murray goes a round better (at any stage) he gets no.2.

Murray loses in Montreal F: Murray 195 ahead (RF 8065, AM 8260)
Murray keeps no.2 by matching Federer or better; if Federer beats Murray in SF, he regains no.2. Too tired to look at other scenarios of Fed bettering Murray (since it might be redundant in a few hours!)

Murray wins Montreal: Murray 595 ahead (RF 8065, AM 8660)
Fed regains no.2 if he wins Cincy; all other scenarios Murray keeps no.2.

I think I have that right, but haven't checked my workings out!

Between sets (or probably not by the time I post), I'll point out that is NOT right.

Murray currently has 7 non-mandatory counters, because only 8 Masters are counting this week. So after next week, when the Cincy points are on, he'll have to drop 180 points. So if he loses this set, he's only 15 ahead, and 415 ahead if he wins it - giving Federer more options to regain no.2 than in my original post.

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Who will win it then?