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Post by Fluxy Sun 09 Aug 2015, 1:25 pm

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Breaking News: London Wasps regain their crown following playoff final victory.



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2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 18 Aug 2015, 4:50 pm

BamBam wrote:I'm leaning towards Haskell being the starter at the moment, and would prefer Morgan to be the impact sub. I think Wood either starts or is out of the 23, chances are he'll be starting

My main issue with that is that Morgan only covers 8, so you either bring Billy off for him, or have to shuffle the back row.  Haskell you can drop into whatever position you bring the man off from.
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Post by Driver Tue 18 Aug 2015, 5:33 pm

Haskell ticks all boxes in the 20 jersey for me.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Aug 2015, 5:43 pm

I honestly can't see how Burgess can go over 36 or Burrell, I'm completely lost.

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Post by Guest Tue 18 Aug 2015, 6:31 pm

Twelvetrees is meant to have been poor in World Cup training so was favourite to be dropped from squad a couple of weeks ago.

Most papers think May has moved ahead of no well after his great outing on the week. It's kind of over to Nowell this weekend I assume.

some papers like times had May and Nowell starting and Watson on bench.

Haskell is a great bench option and is best there. He is too likely to do something stupid if you start him for me. However as a bench option he covers all 3 is physical and adds impact. Ideal role for me and adds to our bench really well

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Post by Guest Tue 18 Aug 2015, 6:55 pm

Officially announced side:

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_71456,00.html

Full strength apart from wood/ Haskell and the Wing debate

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Aug 2015, 6:57 pm

That looks as strong as we can go (on current form etc) bar Watson.

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Post by Guest Tue 18 Aug 2015, 7:11 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:That looks as strong as we can go (on current form etc) bar Watson.

Like most coaches have said they will pick sides according to opposition.
Think we will see wood/ Haskell Cole/Wilson

Watson/Nowell/May

Slade/Barritt etc all rotate in and out dependent on opposition.

Burrell is being given a chance to nail the 3/4th choice spot and I would argue we are better with Barrit there on form ?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Aug 2015, 7:22 pm

Barritt is injured as far as I'm aware so unavailable.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:40 am

Messam, SBW, Ardie Savea and Akira Ioane commit to NZ sevens

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 8:35 am

They'll have some side!

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Aug 2015, 8:57 am

Last time we see Messam and SBW in a all blacks side will be the World Cup then.

By not playing super 15 all year and committing to the Olympics they are essentially signing off.

Will be some side.
SBW wants trophies so will probably go back to league after like he did last time.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 9:28 am

That's a complete fabrication, SBW is just as likely to play Super rugby again as Savea is.

Savea in theory could stay on with the 7's side if successful as he's not getting a sniff at Int level.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 19 Aug 2015, 9:48 am

SBW moves between codes. He will play super rugby and international rugby again but id say he will go back and play RL before the next RL world cup.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 19 Aug 2015, 9:54 am

But he may choose Lions tour

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 19 Aug 2015, 10:13 am

Or the next football world cup!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 10:14 am

When he came back this time I read he wasn't going back to RL. He said he was going to go back to Toulon after the Chiefs.

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Aug 2015, 10:51 am

If you look at the contracts Messam and SBW will not play super 15 next year as committed to 7s. Savea and Ioane who are both young uns will play some tournaments.

SBW wants medals and so move to RL seems logical after Olympics. Why would he stay for Lions when he would probably be bench. Not playing 15s for a year would mean he would struggle like he has this year.

Admire the fact that he can switch codes but do think he could have been a legend if he stuck with just one of them.

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Aug 2015, 10:58 am

Can't wait to watch that sevens side. SBW should be fantastic in 7s. He will probably play prop which is insane

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 11:00 am

Nonu is going to France, the 12 shirt is open.

It's just as likely Savea will stay 7's as SBW will go to RL.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 11:41 am

Looks like it's going to be between Corbs & Brookes for 5th Prop:

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_71573,00.html

Corbs is currently injured and not training.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 19 Aug 2015, 12:37 pm

You need to take the TH who can play loose rather than the othr way round.

Fitness permitting I'm taking Corbs over Mako but that doesn't seem likely

I'm excited by the potential bench

16. ? 17. Mako 18. Wilson 19. Attwood 20 Haskell 21. Care 22. Farrell 23. May

That is a very good bench to make an impact.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 19 Aug 2015, 12:58 pm

Lancaster is starting to take some flak about not taking Hartley due to the issues of hookers and their darts - would have been a huge gamble but such an area for concern. Hoping George has a good impact from the bench.

Shame RFU didn't do what every other union does and go light with punishment on a key player, some players have got away with so much.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 2:07 pm

Youngs and George haven't even had a shot yet. LCD was dreadful and it was obvious he'd never make the cut but tough on the others.

Hartley hasn't been a clear choice of late, he had a pretty average 6N and could of lost his spot anyway to be fair.

Agree there Steve, I'd have Corbs over Mako if fit. Brookes is handy at LH, better than Corbs at TH I imagine.

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Post by BamBam Wed 19 Aug 2015, 2:35 pm

Corbs hasn't shown enough for me, he might be fit but he's not on top form, while Mako is playing very well

Thinks Corbs is going to be the unlucky man out, its a real shame

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Aug 2015, 3:06 pm

Agree bam. Most saints fans will tell you corbs was not at the races last year and got quite a few hidings and gave penalties away against fair average props.

On form he is best in world but Mako has form fitness and that is surely what Lancaster will pick on.

Also read today that should there be an injury at hooker Lancaster will bring Hartley in.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 3:23 pm

Cheeky deal? Wink

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 19 Aug 2015, 3:36 pm

Anything other than this would surprise me.

Youngs, Webber, George
Marler, Mako, Cole, Wilson, Brookes
Launchbury, Lawes, Attwood, Parling
Robshaw, Wood, Haskell, Billy, Morgan

Care, Youngs, Wigglesworth
Ford, Farrell,
Barritt, Burrell, Burgess, JJ,
May, Watson, Nowell, Brown, Goode


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 3:41 pm

That looks about right, I'd prefer 36 over Burgess as only major change

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Post by BamBam Wed 19 Aug 2015, 3:57 pm

I'd have Slade over either

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 4:01 pm

Missed Slade, he's 100% in over bloody Burgess!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 19 Aug 2015, 4:07 pm

Burgess will go. I suspect it's Slade vs. Burrell for the last spot.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 4:18 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Burgess will go.  I suspect it's Slade vs. Burrell for the last spot.

Disgrace if so, Burgess looked completely lost

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 19 Aug 2015, 4:22 pm

Agree with you there Pete. I think we will see Barritt, Slade, Burgess and Joseph as the centres, unless Burrell puts in a huge performance. Not sure that is the right thing though.

Care needs a better cameo this week, he's ideal to add some zip in the final twenty minutes but you'd have Wigglesworth ahead of him at the moment and not sure he's the right guy you want from the bench.

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Aug 2015, 5:14 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Agree with you there Pete. I think we will see Barritt, Slade, Burgess and Joseph as the centres, unless Burrell puts in a huge performance. Not sure that is the right thing though.

Care needs a better cameo this week, he's ideal to add some zip in the final twenty minutes but you'd have Wigglesworth ahead of him at the moment and not sure he's the right guy you want from the bench.

A bit like corbs if fit and firing Care is streets ahead of any english player in his poSiton. However at the moment it's just not happening for him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 6:09 pm

Has Care ever been "streets ahead" of Youngs?

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 19 Aug 2015, 6:43 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Has Care ever been "streets ahead" of Youngs?
Yes but only when Youngs is also out of form.

Care has the advantage of being with an attacking 10 this week
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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 19 Aug 2015, 6:45 pm

Also I (biasedly) think that over the last year Marler has been a better player than Corbs was. Arguably the best (IMO second or third best) but definitely one of the best LHs in the world
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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:01 pm

Slade adds far more than Burgess. He covers 10, 12, 13 and 15. He can kick and kick goals. He's a natural playmaker, thinker and passer. He knows the defensive structure better and is more sound. Burhess and Burrell are both bosh options so we should take one of the two, and if they get injured and we need a new one, we can draft one in
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:03 pm

At polar extremes in form you could argue Care was better but the same can be said of Youngs.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:13 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_71773,00.html

Hardly creating a lively debate. Robshaw is not close to the top 5 opensides in the world in my view

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:26 pm

Marler has certainly proven to be a world class option. Second to only ayerza in my opinion

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Post by Driver Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:29 pm

I'd take Burgess over Burrell , thought Burgess done far more last week than Burrell has since the NZ tour in a England shirt.

Think across the midfield i'd take

Ford , Farrell , Slade

Burgess, Barritt , Joseph

Brown , Cipriani
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:40 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_71773,00.html

Hardly creating a lively debate. Robshaw is not close to the top 5 opensides in the world in my view

Very strong list.

I'd have Robshaw in there instead of Hooper and further down the list personally.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:47 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:At polar extremes in form you could argue Care was better but the same can be said of Youngs.
I know, I agree Smile
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:49 pm

Slade's performance at the weekend really opens up the midfield selection - think it pushes Cipriani out and some of the papers have been saying Goode is also seen as the third flyhallf.

Slade and Burgess worked very well together, saw the difference when Slade went off - but can see that partnership putting a lot of pressure on Burrell who I don't think had the best season last year compared to what he can deliver.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:49 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_71773,00.html

Hardly creating a lively debate. Robshaw is not close to the top 5 opensides in the world in my view
Would be dull if we all thought alike Smile
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:50 pm

Back was pretty scathing about Haskell in the same interview - not sure how there is always this debate about Robshaw, he's shown that he is class. Might not be an out and out no7 but we're a better team with him in there.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:53 pm

I'm happy he's the best English option.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:55 pm

its amazing how we just don't seem to produce no7s in this country. Not sure if anyone is close to coming through and changing that.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Aug 2015, 7:55 pm

Burgess just looked like a 6 playing 12. His positional play was awful but he's carried ok and tackled well.

I've seen nothing to suggest he's a centre and he's shouldn't be picked there.

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