Season 8 Homepage II

by Fluxy Sun 09 Aug 2015, 1:25 pm

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Breaking News: London Wasps regain their crown following playoff final victory.

Season 8 Homepage II - Page 13 Aviva-Premiership-Trophy-e1306508139154

2014/2015 – London Wasps

2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Bath Rugby	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	Exeter Chiefs	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	Gloucester	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	Harlequins	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	Leicester Tigers	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	London Irish	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	London Wasps	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	Newcastle Falcons	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
9	Northampton Saints	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
10	Sale Sharks	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
11	Saracens	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
12	Worcester Warriors	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

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Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
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Budgets
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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Player Draft
Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

Round Bidding
There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.

Open Bidding
From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by Fluxy Sun 06 Sep 2015, 6:03 pm

Not to add fuel to the fire, but if Cole is bad Matt where does McGrath stand when you were slating him the other day?

by ChequeredJersey Sun 06 Sep 2015, 6:07 pm

Fluxy wrote:Not to add fuel to the fire, but if Cole is bad Matt where does McGrath stand when you were slating him the other day?

Actually I think this is logically consistent - if Cole is awful then McGrath can still be very poor and dominate him at the scrum

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 06 Sep 2015, 6:24 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Always said Wilson a better prop since Wilson nailed his place. Wilson was poor but emerged into a great th. love what Cole offers and pre injury was a better scrummager but like Jenkins he could hold his own and was never a destructive scrummager.

Not same player since injury
And think he may have had it at int level. Would have Wilson and Brookes ahead currently.

Fair ratings http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/international/england/11846265/England-21-Ireland-13-player-ratings-Jonny-May-and-Mike-Brown-shine-at-Twickenham.html

I'd agree with all that except the Brookes comment. Cole not the same player since injury but was more commenting on the statement Cole has always been an average to poor scrummager?! Think Steve hit the nail on the head with the May/Cole comment.

This is the McGrath who is unselectable for any other country we are talking about though CJ Whistle

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 06 Sep 2015, 7:33 pm

It takes time to build scrum fitness as we've seen with so many. Cole has carried the England scrum at times and he's still building up, he'll get there.

It's not like Figallo for instance who looks absolutely shot after injury and can't get in the Sarries team ahead of Du Plessis.

That McGrath "terrible in the scrum" makes funny reading now.

by **Ozzy3213** Sun 06 Sep 2015, 8:37 pm

"Your player's crap", "No, your player is", "No he isn't, he's great, your player is crap", "No he isn't, he's fantastic, your player us crap", "No, your blah, blah, blah....." ad f u k cing nauseum!

God it's boring. Will you too ever give up on bagging each others players. I'll be honest, I'm close to quitting as it spoils the game and is getting on my jubblies!

by ChequeredJersey Sun 06 Sep 2015, 8:57 pm

Yeah let's just accept neither of you rates the other's players and skip all the discussion about it

by ChequeredJersey Sun 06 Sep 2015, 11:31 pm

Has anyone had Van Der Merwe in the game yet?

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 07 Sep 2015, 8:13 am

Which one CJ?

Few players available and also have cash.

PR Jannie Du Plessis (South Africa)
PR Tomas Francis (England)
LK Bradley Davies (Wales)
FL Ben Mowen (Australia)
FL Heinrich Brussow (South Africa)
N8 Dave Denton (Scotland)

FH Patrick Lambie (South Africa)
CE Tom Taylor (New Zealand)
CE Marcelo Bosch (Argentina)
FB Scott Spedding (France)

by dammit_chris Mon 07 Sep 2015, 9:20 am

Anyone see the Fiji game over the weekend? They are going to cause an upset at this WC, was very impressed with them. Didn't know Nadolo was such a good kicker. Their pack looks strong and Nakarawa in the second row looks to be getting better all the time.

Have Wales lost Webb and Halfpenny? That's going to be a huge blow for them.

by Fluxy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 9:22 am

They are being assessed today, I think Halfpenny will pull through but Webb is gone.

Nakawara is a machine, if anyone watched the Pro 12 final last season, his performance in the first half virtually won them the game. His offloads and carrying were devastating.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:04 am

Budgets up to date.

Nakawara was a monster in that final. His offloading was a thing of beauty. Lacks a little bit of graft at times but if the pack can make up for it his ball carrying is more then worth it!

by Fluxy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:14 am

I wouldn't say he lacks carrying. He would just need to be in a pack that is organised, and he would be the standout player adding the x-factor. He's an athletic monster, so along side someone ala POC/Horwill/Parling/Gray/Whitelock who can call a line out and cover some work rate he would be great.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:34 am

That's what I was saying Flux. If the pack can pick up his graft at the breakdown etc he's definitely an option worth having. Seriously explosive carrier.

by BamBam Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:49 am

Thoughts from the game at the weekend

Scrum went better than against France, but I'm not sure if the two against the head were the fault of the hooker or whether we were just under too much pressure for Youngs to strike for the ball. Its a concern, but we haven't got a game against a strong scrum to try Wilson. I would say that we looked a touch more solid with George

I would also start George as the hooker (not just saying because he's my player!), mainly because we just looked a lot smoother at the lineout with him in. With Youngs, the ball seemed up for grabs a bit more, not sure if thats just because the Irish were challenging less.

Really pleased with how we went around the park in the first half, great to see Wood carrying like that again, when he plays like that he's by far our first choice 6. Still think we need to find some more turnovers, we saw what happened when Morgan got over the ball and the ball went out to May, with the speed of the back 3 we could be lethal off turnovers

Youngs and Ford had good games, definite starters for me. Wiggles looked good when he came on, was spinning out passes well and controlled the game. Farrell is an excellent option for closing out the game, but can't afford to miss chances like the long pass he threw to no one, that was extremely poor.

Pleased with the midfield, considering their lack of gametime together. Hope to see a bit more of Joseph in attack now the opposition will be worried about the wings, may give him more space to exploit.

Back 3 were excellent, defended well, did well under the aerial barrage and made plenty of their chances in attack. Feel a bit for Nowell, don't think he's had much of a chance as the team got a battering in the game he started, but May has taken his chance and I'd expect him to start

Bench forwards all had an impact, I'm unsure on whether to start Parling ahead of Launchbury, think Wood and Lawes gives two very good options if Lawes can call the lineout well enough, and an on form Launchbury is just so so crucial around the park.

On the whole, think we're progressing well, and would start the same team against Fiji but with Launchbury coming in

by Fluxy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:53 am

I do think it was the hooking (or lack of!)) from Youngs which caused the two against the head. The scrum is solid, and New Zealand have proved that, that is all you need to win games.

by ChequeredJersey Mon 07 Sep 2015, 11:55 am

DTH, Pooly

Does anyone have Nakawara?

by Fluxy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:07 pm

Nope, he's not in the league mate.

by dammit_chris Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:09 pm

Agree with you Bam - Launchbury an interesting one, think he only played 80 minutes of AP rugby since last November so he's going to be a little off the pace until he gets 2-3 games and now he's had a run out he should come good.

Parling did shore up the lineout, was a difference in quality of ball that we got when George was on as we started to look like generating a bit of quick ball.

Would start Morgan now I think, he adds to our lineout options as well as I'm not sure anyone could ever lift BV off the ground! Gives us five options that way, which made a huge difference.

by dammit_chris Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:10 pm

Sure he was in the league a while back though, trying to remember the team he played for - sure it was one of the old Wasps' managers.

by BamBam Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:19 pm

Fluxy wrote:I do think it was the hooking (or lack of!)) from Youngs which caused the two against the head. The scrum is solid, and New Zealand have proved that, that is all you need to win games.

Usually thats because there's too much pressure on the front row though, which is a bit of a concern

Both hookers in a match day squad will get plenty of game time, I just think that we're better off with the extra solidity of George starting and Youngs adds more impact

by Fluxy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:21 pm

Morgan starts for me above Billy everytime. Morgan offers us more in terms of an all round game and moments to break a game.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:22 pm

Had a quick look through my spreadsheets but can't see him at the moment

by Fluxy Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:26 pm

What are people's thoughts on my centre situation? I appreciate that JOC/JP isn't exactly the best, but how would people rate Eamonn Sheridan at 12, has looked good for Oyonaxx since moving from Irish last season. Similar with Flood he is now playing 12 for Toulouse and knocked up 20 points at the weekend.

Would appreciate some thought as looking at bringing a 13 to compliment them if they are deemed good enough to cover during the RWC

by dammit_chris Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:27 pm

Cole didnt have his best game at the weekend, seemed to let quite a bit of pressure build on Youngs. Pack depends on hooker who starts, if it is Youngs I'd go Parling, Lawes, Wood, Robshaw and Morgan if it was George Launchbury, Lawes, Wood, Robshaw and BV - as can see Morgan being able to offer such impact from the bench in final 20-30 mins with BV waring down defences.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 07 Sep 2015, 12:49 pm

Morgan seems to be the better starter with Billy better from the bench. I don't think Billy has played well these warm up games.

by BamBam Mon 07 Sep 2015, 3:00 pm

Any ideas on hookers still out there in releases/foreigns that would be available during the RWC? Just realised I'm going to be short with George and Coles both away!

Or if anyone has a hooker available for loan/trade?

by Guest Mon 07 Sep 2015, 3:07 pm

Bam how about Lindsay or motua tu both can't throw in but Lindsay will see game time at glos.

Not sure if motua made World Cup squad but both would be a decent stop gap for a Few weeks. Would release them after as both not really good enough when teams at full strength.

Also Nick Selway of Jersey is tidy and english

by ChequeredJersey Mon 07 Sep 2015, 3:26 pm

Fluxy, I'd rate Flood at 12 atm. If JOC can get time at 12 suspect id rate him there too

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 07 Sep 2015, 3:55 pm

As others have said can we stop the player slating please. Motua is already at Sarries.

Same as CJ, Flood definitely capable of 12 through the world cup. Could be a decent EQ option for the whole season if Toulouse keep him there. Sheridan/JOC fine there as well but outside of the world cup wouldn't look to play either. Need to see JOC at 12 again in real life to rate him there.

by **Ozzy3213** Mon 07 Sep 2015, 3:59 pm

Quarter final match threads will be up later this evening.

by Driver Mon 07 Sep 2015, 4:30 pm

I think if you don't play for Worcester your tosh!

drumroll

by Guest Mon 07 Sep 2015, 4:53 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:As others have said can we stop the player slating please. Motua is already at Sarries.

Same as CJ, Flood definitely capable of 12 through the world cup. Could be a decent EQ option for the whole season if Toulouse keep him there. Sheridan/JOC fine there as well but outside of the world cup wouldn't look to play either. Need to see JOC at 12 again in real life to rate him there.

No idea that motua was at sarries. How is that player slating i actually recommended him. Chris signed him
And at the time I said I thought was a poor signing as he is a beast tackler and Carrier but struggles with throwing in etc. pooly told Chris same thing

Also re Pete saying player slating . I have issues with Cole and pooly Somehow does not rate may. Fine I disagree and did not think pooly or myself were out
Of order. Both raises valid points re the players. If people want a beige forum then so be it. . I criticise and praise players equally no matter who they are. I am a passionate fan. If Pete wants us all too be beige then so be it but find his post way off and disagree with every point of
It.
That is not a problem as it is a forum and his opinion as valid as anyone's.
And agreement/ disagreement as long as the tone is not hostile or insulting should be encouraged.

a good example of this is recently my rating of McGrath.
I think he is poor
But likewise praised massively Henderson who looks to the
Manor born. It's
Because that's my opinion and I want to express it.
I have played the game to
A pretty high
Level and attend nearly every game england play live home and away as well as watching Gloucester whenever I am not coaching or playing the odd game( less than 10 a year and most invitational these days)

Essentially I love rugby and have opinions on it end of

by Guest Mon 07 Sep 2015, 4:57 pm

Joc not a great 12
Defensively. Unfortunately they have ruined the best talent I have seen in
My day by playing
Him everywhere.

Sheridan decent during WC phase and flood
Would be
Ok as long as he is playing there for Toulon.

by **Ozzy3213** Mon 07 Sep 2015, 4:58 pm

Mat, it's not about opinions, we have good discussions on lots of players mate, and you know in general I value your opinion on players. It's you and Pooly's constant to-ing and fro-ing over the same old points that you want to argue against each other. It's black, it's white, it's black it's white. It is really tedious for the rest of us.

Both of you are good in discussions that the other one is not involved in, and nor is one of your players. When you are both at it on here together, I log out mate, as it goes from a rugby discussion to childish arguing.

by **Ozzy3213** Mon 07 Sep 2015, 4:59 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Joc not a great 12
Defensively. Unfortunately they have ruined the best talent I have seen in
My day by playing
Him everywhere.

Agree with this. great talent and still young enough to kick on again, but needs to settle on a position, probably full back now.

by ChequeredJersey Mon 07 Sep 2015, 4:59 pm

You have to admit that you and Pooly, whilst both having strong opinions, do sometimes seem to hold such opposite views on each other's players that it's fairly reasonable to suggest there may be an underlying connecting cause?

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 07 Sep 2015, 5:11 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:You have to admit that you and Pooly, whilst both having strong opinions, do sometimes seem to hold such opposite views on each other's players that it's fairly reasonable to suggest there may be an underlying connecting cause?

I think we can safely say we detest each other CJ Laugh

If those are recommendations of hookers, I'd hate to see them knocked!

by Guest Mon 07 Sep 2015, 5:16 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:You have to admit that you and Pooly, whilst both having strong opinions, do sometimes seem to hold such opposite views on each other's players that it's fairly reasonable to suggest there may be an underlying connecting cause?

I agree with that CJ he does go for
Players I have not much time for unfortunately.

Pete seems to have purchased most of them now in cruden and both youngs.

I rate many of poolys players like Conrad smith etc.

by dammit_chris Mon 07 Sep 2015, 5:29 pm

Halfpenny is out for 6 months due to ACL injury. Shane Williams has been slating Gatland and co saying they should have rested Webb and Halfpenny as the two guys they had to keep fit for the WC after giving them quite a bit of gametime leading up to it.

Good that England got through injury free, but Wales could struggle now to get out of the group. Shame for both players there.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 07 Sep 2015, 5:30 pm

You are consistent, I'll give you that.

You dislike them when I sign them then stubbornly carry on disliking them if I sell them. Got to respect the commitment to the cause Wink

Wales will miss Halfpenny's boot but maybe can improve in an attacking sense with Williams. Webb is a loss if they as expected bring in the flanker Phillips to replace him.

by Guest Mon 07 Sep 2015, 6:03 pm

Halfpenny is a huge loss as is Webb. Both top drawer with halfpenny world class for me.

As a fan i like to see all teams with best players but as they are in our group I am pretty damn happy 2 of their best players out.

Don't understand the criticism of garland for playing them. Rugby a physical game and injuries inevitable.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 07 Sep 2015, 6:26 pm

As Pete says there is no issue with opinion and discussion but its as tedious as hell reading the same arguments other and other. I'd say I could probably count the number of times either of you have said something positive about the others players over the last few years on one hand.

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 07 Sep 2015, 8:14 pm

SL undecided on FH & 8 for Fiji.

http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/13601133/england-selection-headache-ahead-rugby-world-cup-opener-Fiji

Can't see past Ford & Morgan personally

by ChequeredJersey Mon 07 Sep 2015, 8:37 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:SL undecided on FH & 8 for Fiji.

http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/story/_/id/13601133/england-selection-headache-ahead-rugby-world-cup-opener-Fiji

Can't see past Ford & Morgan personally

8, I get

10, is he mad?! Did he watch Farrell? It's Fiji, we need to score points, we need an attacking 10

by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 08 Sep 2015, 9:14 am

Another decent scrum analysis from the42: http://www.the42.ie/ireland-england-scrum-analysis-2315340-Sep2015/

by Fluxy Tue 08 Sep 2015, 9:28 am

Rhys Webb is also out of the RWC. Gatland to be on the phone to Phillips!

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 08 Sep 2015, 11:08 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Another decent scrum analysis from the42: http://www.the42.ie/ireland-england-scrum-analysis-2315340-Sep2015/

Really good write up and zero criticism of Dan Cole which makes a mockery of some of the comments on here. The wheeling was a real problem throughout and seems like it's a tactic from Ireland reading that.

by BamBam Tue 08 Sep 2015, 11:13 am

Really interesting analysis, I must say I don't know a lot about what happens at most scrums, things like that really break it down well

by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 08 Sep 2015, 11:19 am

Keep an eye on the 42 Bam they often have articles up like that. Decent piece on the Ireland attacking set up at the weekend up as well at the moment. Murray Kinsella & Neill Tracey both very good for the analysis. Articles usually Irish related but they do spread their net and saw good pieces on the All Blacks, Retalick, Canes, Landers etc over the last few months.

by Fluxy Tue 08 Sep 2015, 11:34 am

Wales have called up Phillips and Eli Walker.

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