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Scotland V USA 27th September
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SCOTLAND V USA
27 September 2015
KO: 14:30 BST
Elland Road, Leeds
Live on ITV
Referee: Chris Pollock
Touch judges: John Lacey, Mike Fraser
Television match official: Ben Skeen
A. Head to Head
4 Played 4
4 Won 0
0 Drawn 0
0 Lost 4
C. Teams
SCOTLAND
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 9 tries, 1 pen, 48 points
14 Sean Maitland (London Irish) – 17 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 10 caps; 5 tries, 25 points
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps, 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 21 caps; 9 tries, 45 points
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 2 tries, 2 cons, 14 points
9 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) CAPTAIN – 16 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) – 24 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 90 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
3 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 8 caps, 1 try, 5 points
4 Richie Gray (Castres) – 47 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
5 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) – 11 caps, 1 try, 5 points
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan) – 46 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
7 Ryan Bloody Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
8 Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap
16 Kevin Bryce (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 48 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
18 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 4 caps
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
20 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps
21 Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester) – 42 caps; 3 tries, 48 cons, 92 pens, 387 points
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps, 1 try, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 47 points
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 30 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
USA
(Yes I know she was born in Ukraine but who cares!
1. Eric Fry
2. Phil Thiel
3. Titi Lamositele
4. Hayden Smith
5. Greg Peterson
6. Al McFarland
7. Andrew Durutalo
8. Samu Manoa
9. Mike Petri
10. AJ MacGinty
11. Blaine Scully
12. Thretton Palamo
13. Seamus Kelly
14. Takudzwa Ngwenya
15. Chris Wyles (C)
16. Zach Fenoglio
17. Olive Kilifi
18. Chris Baumann
19. Cameron Dolan
20. John Quill
21. Danny Barrett
22. Shalom Suniula
23. Folau Niua
SCOTLAND V USA
27 September 2015
KO: 14:30 BST
Elland Road, Leeds
Live on ITV
Referee: Chris Pollock
Touch judges: John Lacey, Mike Fraser
Television match official: Ben Skeen
A. Head to Head
4 Played 4
4 Won 0
0 Drawn 0
0 Lost 4
C. Teams
SCOTLAND
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 9 tries, 1 pen, 48 points
14 Sean Maitland (London Irish) – 17 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 10 caps; 5 tries, 25 points
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps, 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 21 caps; 9 tries, 45 points
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 2 tries, 2 cons, 14 points
9 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) CAPTAIN – 16 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) – 24 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 90 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
3 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 8 caps, 1 try, 5 points
4 Richie Gray (Castres) – 47 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
5 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) – 11 caps, 1 try, 5 points
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan) – 46 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
7 Ryan Bloody Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
8 Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap
16 Kevin Bryce (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 48 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
18 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 4 caps
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
20 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps
21 Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester) – 42 caps; 3 tries, 48 cons, 92 pens, 387 points
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps, 1 try, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 47 points
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 30 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
USA
(Yes I know she was born in Ukraine but who cares!
1. Eric Fry
2. Phil Thiel
3. Titi Lamositele
4. Hayden Smith
5. Greg Peterson
6. Al McFarland
7. Andrew Durutalo
8. Samu Manoa
9. Mike Petri
10. AJ MacGinty
11. Blaine Scully
12. Thretton Palamo
13. Seamus Kelly
14. Takudzwa Ngwenya
15. Chris Wyles (C)
16. Zach Fenoglio
17. Olive Kilifi
18. Chris Baumann
19. Cameron Dolan
20. John Quill
21. Danny Barrett
22. Shalom Suniula
23. Folau Niua
Last edited by RDW_Scotland on Fri 25 Sep 2015, 10:30 am; edited 2 times in total
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I think we were watching different games, FHF.
His tackling in the first half was anything but subdued I thought. More often than not he was putting the guy back where he came from. For Japan's try, he was the only one in position for the rolling maul as the rest of the back didn't spot the change of position. Up against 5 Japanese forwards, what could be be expected to do?
I thought he was MOTM by some distance
His tackling in the first half was anything but subdued I thought. More often than not he was putting the guy back where he came from. For Japan's try, he was the only one in position for the rolling maul as the rest of the back didn't spot the change of position. Up against 5 Japanese forwards, what could be be expected to do?
I thought he was MOTM by some distance
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Interestingly our most capped back in the starting line up and third most capped player is 23, it's scary to think that between 15 and 20 players in this squad have at least another two world cups in them.
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
123456789 wrote:Interestingly our most capped back in the starting line up and third most capped player is 23, it's scary to think that between 15 and 20 players in this squad have at least another two world cups in them.
When the squad pose for photos they stand in order of number of caps - Hogg and Scott are on the front row!
Certainly very promising for the future.
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Scotland back-row John Hardie has been ruled out of tomorrow’s Rugby World Cup match against USA at Elland Road, Leeds (kick-off 2.30pm) – live on ITV.
Having produced inconclusive results to a precautionary HIA 2 (head injury assessment) after Wednesday’s win over Japan, the openside – who remains symptom free – was reassessed yesterday afternoon (Friday).
It was here that, 48-hours after the game (HIA 3), Hardie failed one component of the tested elements (Cogstate), and was subsequently considered unavailable for tomorrow’s game. He will now continue with his graduated return-to-play protocol.
As a result, Ryan Wilson has been promoted from the bench into the starting back-row.
To accommodate Wilson’s inclusion and retain cover for the forwards, hooker Fraser Brown will now take the number 20 shirt as back-row replacement, with Ross Ford starting.
Kevin Bryce comes into the match-day squad to take the replacement hooker role vacated by Ford.
Scotland team to face USA at Elland Road, Leeds this Sunday (27 September, kick-off 2.30pm) – live on ITV
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 9 tries, 1 pen, 48 points
14 Sean Maitland (London Irish) – 17 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 10 caps; 5 tries, 25 points
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps, 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 21 caps; 9 tries, 45 points
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 2 tries, 2 cons, 14 points
9 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) CAPTAIN – 16 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) – 24 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 90 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
3 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 8 caps, 1 try, 5 points
4 Richie Gray (Castres) – 47 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
5 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) – 11 caps, 1 try, 5 points
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan) – 46 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
7 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
8 Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap
Substitutes:
16 Kevin Bryce (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 48 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
18 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 4 caps
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
20 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps
21 Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester) – 42 caps; 3 tries, 48 cons, 92 pens, 387 points
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps, 1 try, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 47 points
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 30 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
Having produced inconclusive results to a precautionary HIA 2 (head injury assessment) after Wednesday’s win over Japan, the openside – who remains symptom free – was reassessed yesterday afternoon (Friday).
It was here that, 48-hours after the game (HIA 3), Hardie failed one component of the tested elements (Cogstate), and was subsequently considered unavailable for tomorrow’s game. He will now continue with his graduated return-to-play protocol.
As a result, Ryan Wilson has been promoted from the bench into the starting back-row.
To accommodate Wilson’s inclusion and retain cover for the forwards, hooker Fraser Brown will now take the number 20 shirt as back-row replacement, with Ross Ford starting.
Kevin Bryce comes into the match-day squad to take the replacement hooker role vacated by Ford.
Scotland team to face USA at Elland Road, Leeds this Sunday (27 September, kick-off 2.30pm) – live on ITV
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 9 tries, 1 pen, 48 points
14 Sean Maitland (London Irish) – 17 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 10 caps; 5 tries, 25 points
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps, 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 21 caps; 9 tries, 45 points
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 2 tries, 2 cons, 14 points
9 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) CAPTAIN – 16 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) – 24 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 90 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
3 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 8 caps, 1 try, 5 points
4 Richie Gray (Castres) – 47 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
5 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) – 11 caps, 1 try, 5 points
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan) – 46 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
7 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
8 Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap
Substitutes:
16 Kevin Bryce (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 48 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
18 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 4 caps
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
20 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps
21 Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester) – 42 caps; 3 tries, 48 cons, 92 pens, 387 points
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps, 1 try, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 47 points
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 30 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
RDW_Scotland wrote:Scotland back-row John Hardie has been ruled out of tomorrow’s Rugby World Cup match against USA at Elland Road, Leeds (kick-off 2.30pm) – live on ITV.
Having produced inconclusive results to a precautionary HIA 2 (head injury assessment) after Wednesday’s win over Japan, the openside – who remains symptom free – was reassessed yesterday afternoon (Friday).
It was here that, 48-hours after the game (HIA 3), Hardie failed one component of the tested elements (Cogstate), and was subsequently considered unavailable for tomorrow’s game. He will now continue with his graduated return-to-play protocol.
As a result, Ryan Wilson has been promoted from the bench into the starting back-row.
To accommodate Wilson’s inclusion and retain cover for the forwards, hooker Fraser Brown will now take the number 20 shirt as back-row replacement, with Ross Ford starting.
Kevin Bryce comes into the match-day squad to take the replacement hooker role vacated by Ford.
Scotland team to face USA at Elland Road, Leeds this Sunday (27 September, kick-off 2.30pm) – live on ITV
15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 34 caps; 9 tries, 1 pen, 48 points
14 Sean Maitland (London Irish) – 17 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
13 Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors) – 10 caps; 5 tries, 25 points
12 Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps, 1 try, 1 con, 1 pen, 10 points
11 Tim Visser (Harlequins) – 21 caps; 9 tries, 45 points
10 Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps; 2 tries, 2 cons, 14 points
9 Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors) CAPTAIN – 16 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors) – 24 caps
2 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby) – 90 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
3 Jon Welsh (Newcastle Falcons) – 8 caps, 1 try, 5 points
4 Richie Gray (Castres) – 47 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
5 Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby) – 11 caps, 1 try, 5 points
6 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan) – 46 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
7 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 12 caps
8 Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 1 cap
Substitutes:
16 Kevin Bryce (Glasgow Warriors) – 2 caps
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby) – 48 caps, 2 tries, 10 points
18 Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 4 caps
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 13 caps
20 Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 11 caps
21 Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester) – 42 caps; 3 tries, 48 cons, 92 pens, 387 points
22 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps, 1 try, 6 cons, 9 pens, 1 drop, 47 points
23 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby) – 30 caps, 3 tries, 15 points
sounds like that might rule him out for a while. concussion min rest is how many weeks ?
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
There is no longer a minimum period - they have to pass return to play protocol.
The HIA (head injury assessment process)
HIA Stage 1 – in-game pitch side. Stage 1 utilizes the HIA Form 1 and occurs pitch side.
Stage 2 – post-game, same day assessment. The World Rugby HIA Form 2 provides baseline normative data. As part of the Player Welfare Standards an annual baseline HIA Form 2 (SCAT 3) is completed.
Stage 3 – 36-48 hour assessment. The HIA Form 3 should be used as the support tool for the 36-48 hour post injury assessment. This follow up stage encourages the use of a computer neurocognitive tool as part of the overall HIA 3 assessment.
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RDW_Scotland wrote:There is no longer a minimum period - they have to pass return to play protocol.The HIA (head injury assessment process)
HIA Stage 1 – in-game pitch side. Stage 1 utilizes the HIA Form 1 and occurs pitch side.
Stage 2 – post-game, same day assessment. The World Rugby HIA Form 2 provides baseline normative data. As part of the Player Welfare Standards an annual baseline HIA Form 2 (SCAT 3) is completed.
Stage 3 – 36-48 hour assessment. The HIA Form 3 should be used as the support tool for the 36-48 hour post injury assessment. This follow up stage encourages the use of a computer neurocognitive tool as part of the overall HIA 3 assessment.
whens barclay when u need him
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So Hardie is going to get the rest that a lot of us felt he should have in the first place.
Madder than a Mexican's dog to only take one openside. As we called it at the time.
The new loose forward trio will confuse the USA into submission. One so slow and so bald, one nippy and underpowered with a flock of seagulls effort and one who can actually play whose beard contains more follicles than the heads of the entire front row combined.
Got to be irritating for Hardie to sit this one out when he's showing no symptoms and potentially even feels fine.
Madder than a Mexican's dog to only take one openside. As we called it at the time.
The new loose forward trio will confuse the USA into submission. One so slow and so bald, one nippy and underpowered with a flock of seagulls effort and one who can actually play whose beard contains more follicles than the heads of the entire front row combined.
Got to be irritating for Hardie to sit this one out when he's showing no symptoms and potentially even feels fine.
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Eagles team:
1. Eric Fry
2. Phil Thiel
3. Titi Lamositele
4. Hayden Smith
5. Greg Peterson
6. Al McFarland
7. Andrew Durutalo
8. Samu Manoa
9. Mike Petri
10. AJ MacGinty
11. Blaine Scully
12. Thretton Palamo
13. Seamus Kelly
14. Takudzwa Ngwenya
15. Chris Wyles (C)
16. Zach Fenoglio
17. Olive Kilifi
18. Chris Baumann
19. Cameron Dolan
20. John Quill
21. Danny Barrett
22. Shalom Suniula
23. Folau Niua
Just one change to the side which gargled old man balls against Samoa. Thank goodness Fry was retained. I'm struggling to think of a worse international prop than him.
Hope that Greg Peterson and Folau Niua find time for a beer with the Glasgow lads afterwards.
1. Eric Fry
2. Phil Thiel
3. Titi Lamositele
4. Hayden Smith
5. Greg Peterson
6. Al McFarland
7. Andrew Durutalo
8. Samu Manoa
9. Mike Petri
10. AJ MacGinty
11. Blaine Scully
12. Thretton Palamo
13. Seamus Kelly
14. Takudzwa Ngwenya
15. Chris Wyles (C)
16. Zach Fenoglio
17. Olive Kilifi
18. Chris Baumann
19. Cameron Dolan
20. John Quill
21. Danny Barrett
22. Shalom Suniula
23. Folau Niua
Just one change to the side which gargled old man balls against Samoa. Thank goodness Fry was retained. I'm struggling to think of a worse international prop than him.
Hope that Greg Peterson and Folau Niua find time for a beer with the Glasgow lads afterwards.
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I think this USA team is still full of potential. As athletes they are pretty good, and they are the best conditioned Eagle side ever. But they still lack some basic skills. Their physicality may trouble Scotland for a bit, but in reality I expect a comfortable win for the men in dark blue. When assessing the Eagles, all one needs to do is look at number 1, Eric Fry. Unbelieveably, he is considered the best LH Prop in America (a point with which I disagree with their coaching team). When he is superceded by other players on merit, then the Eagles can be taken as a true serious threat.
I hope you understand i have to support the Eagles in this one. No offense intended.
I hope you understand i have to support the Eagles in this one. No offense intended.
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
No offence taken Doc. But you have broken Rule 4431 (d) English person choosing to support Scotland's opponents without a note from your mum. You now must buy all Scottish posters a beer
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Well the Hardie news really puts Cotter's daft selections under the spotlight. Big game for Ryan Wilson.
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jimbopip wrote:No offence taken Doc. But you have broken Rule 4431 (d) English person choosing to support Scotland's opponents without a note from your mum. You now must buy all Scottish posters a beer
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flyhalffactory wrote:jimbopip wrote:No offence taken Doc. But you have broken Rule 4431 (d) English person choosing to support Scotland's opponents without a note from your mum. You now must buy all Scottish posters a beer
But two for Schiz, obviously.
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South Africa are looking back to their best, Samoa vulnerable but still got some outstanding individuals.
Gonna be a hell of a tough couple of games.
Once we get past this one...
Gonna be a hell of a tough couple of games.
Once we get past this one...
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I thought Samoa were very poor but it's a similar situation to the Japan game and the Italy games if we get drawn into an arm wrestle they have players who can hurt us but we now have players who can hurt them talk now. The goal kicking and territorial kicking from Samoa was very promising and they look quite weak in the centres as well. South Africa looked vulnerable on the few occasions Samoa strung a few phases, if we play to our potential we have a greater chance of beating the boks than losing to Samoa.
The Boks were fairly ill disciplined again so if Laidlaw has his kicking spot on then we will get points and I feel we can gain at least parity in the backs, the forwards will have to steel themselves for a brutal encounter though, if we can keep the ball moving quickly then we have a chance, don't get me wrong we are still the underdogs but I felt the Samoans were poor rather than the Boks amazing, nevertheless this is the Scotland rugby team so nothing will be simple.
The Boks were fairly ill disciplined again so if Laidlaw has his kicking spot on then we will get points and I feel we can gain at least parity in the backs, the forwards will have to steel themselves for a brutal encounter though, if we can keep the ball moving quickly then we have a chance, don't get me wrong we are still the underdogs but I felt the Samoans were poor rather than the Boks amazing, nevertheless this is the Scotland rugby team so nothing will be simple.
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I know this is the thing Scottish fans should never say.... but...
The Eagles are the weakest team in the group. If we don't feel confident about beating them we should concede the match and go home.
I've watched Samoa twice and am not impressed. Japan may well beat them.
Our game against the Boks could be the match no-one wants to win. Meyer must feel that five points are guaranteed against the Eagles and may well rest some players against us. Similarly BVC may feel that we have more chance of beating Samoa in our last game and rotate promiscuously against the Boks.
Japan-- two games against USA and Samoa could end up with 14 points.
Samoa-- need to win next two games to have any hope of going through. Although two four point wins will only give them 12 points.
SA -- will beat USA and have 12 points regardless of the result against us.
If we win tomorrow we have ten points and could be facing an already eliminated Samoa in the last game. It just occurs to me that if Japan win both of their matches and have 14 points and we beat USA and Samoa we could have 15 points : South Africa really need to beat us to be 100% sure of qualifying. Ignore what I said about "the match no-one wants to win", the Boks will really want to win it.
Of course if we don't turn up tomorrow it's all academic.
The Eagles are the weakest team in the group. If we don't feel confident about beating them we should concede the match and go home.
I've watched Samoa twice and am not impressed. Japan may well beat them.
Our game against the Boks could be the match no-one wants to win. Meyer must feel that five points are guaranteed against the Eagles and may well rest some players against us. Similarly BVC may feel that we have more chance of beating Samoa in our last game and rotate promiscuously against the Boks.
Japan-- two games against USA and Samoa could end up with 14 points.
Samoa-- need to win next two games to have any hope of going through. Although two four point wins will only give them 12 points.
SA -- will beat USA and have 12 points regardless of the result against us.
If we win tomorrow we have ten points and could be facing an already eliminated Samoa in the last game. It just occurs to me that if Japan win both of their matches and have 14 points and we beat USA and Samoa we could have 15 points : South Africa really need to beat us to be 100% sure of qualifying. Ignore what I said about "the match no-one wants to win", the Boks will really want to win it.
Of course if we don't turn up tomorrow it's all academic.
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Frankly this is the best chance we will probably have for years
Slot USA for 5 points
No injuries we have nothing to fear at all .
Slot USA for 5 points
No injuries we have nothing to fear at all .
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Perhaps most importantly we were yesterday above South Africa in the rankings, I'm not sure how things will have changed but at least we can say we were briefly above them. Given tonight's results though we may leapfrog the English if we win well tomorrow which is always a good day.
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Question : What happens if a game has to be postponed due to weather? I only ask as the visibility in central Leeds at the moment is about 50 feet!
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Weather is supposed to be good today:
http://www.bbc.com/weather/2644688
I had to work out of Leeds quite a bit on health and leisure deals and I have to say that I thought it was a fun town.
http://www.bbc.com/weather/2644688
I had to work out of Leeds quite a bit on health and leisure deals and I have to say that I thought it was a fun town.
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I'm about to head out the door on my way to Elland Road.
Come on boys! INTO THEM!!
Come on boys! INTO THEM!!
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All of you on here who are heading to the match, have a great day! Leeds is a great party city, 4 years there at uni taught me as much. Your job for the day is to find some American fans and teach them how to drink! In fact, Bru and Jimbo I think we'd all like to see video evidence of a Team 606v2 v America boat race!
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All the best boys n girls and if you see a rag tag table of 10 fifty somethings before or after the scottish victory holler hello......
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Was gonna put a bet on Scotland try scorers, but Jon Welsh gives you better odds than Maitland so decided not to bother!
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GLove39 wrote:Anyone got any watering hole recommendations for Leeds?
Errrr the place i was at till 2.30 this morning was good. Lots of scantaly clad ladies make me feel very old.
If i can remember the name i will let u know
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
, but obviously also very much:RDW_Scotland wrote:Was gonna put a bet on Scotland try scorers, but Jon Welsh gives you better odds than Maitland so decided not to bother!
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Riskysports wrote:GLove39 wrote:Anyone got any watering hole recommendations for Leeds?
Errrr the place i was at till 2.30 this morning was good. Lots of scantaly clad ladies make me feel very old.
If i can remember the name i will let u know
Strippers?
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
RDW_Scotland wrote:Riskysports wrote:GLove39 wrote:Anyone got any watering hole recommendations for Leeds?
Errrr the place i was at till 2.30 this morning was good. Lots of scantaly clad ladies make me feel very old.
If i can remember the name i will let u know
Strippers?
No. Just the youth of today...
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
flyhalffactory wrote:All the best boys n girls and if you see a rag tag table of 10 fifty somethings before or after the scottish victory holler hello......
Will do!
Also if any of you spot a slender figure with ginger hair & large beard to match give us a wave!
Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Cannot believe you are only 22. Almost all of my decent jokes are older than that.GLove39 wrote:flyhalffactory wrote:All the best boys n girls and if you see a rag tag table of 10 fifty somethings before or after the scottish victory holler hello......
Will do!
Also if any of you spot a slender figure with ginger hair & large beard to match give us a wave!
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George Carlin wrote:, but obviously also very much:RDW_Scotland wrote:Was gonna put a bet on Scotland try scorers, but Jon Welsh gives you better odds than Maitland so decided not to bother!
He's snuck in under the radar a bit this world cup, so I thought the joke had to be made!
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Expecting a tight initial 60 minutes in this one then Scotland to win by around 10/20 points? Usa wont roll over as this is probably the game they think they have a chance in.
Horne, Bennett, Russell and Hogg will eventually pop over the line and make the difference.
My guess is due to the law of average's we will pick up our first injury here, Hopefully it's a manageable one?
Im just really hoping we get our glory night in this tournament, something similar to the wales one last night or the Japanese one. A moment in the spotlight where we see it though or produce the last gasp win, This Group of boys just need one big victory here to set up the next four years.
Horne, Bennett, Russell and Hogg will eventually pop over the line and make the difference.
My guess is due to the law of average's we will pick up our first injury here, Hopefully it's a manageable one?
Im just really hoping we get our glory night in this tournament, something similar to the wales one last night or the Japanese one. A moment in the spotlight where we see it though or produce the last gasp win, This Group of boys just need one big victory here to set up the next four years.
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Absolutely agree. The sport in Scotland needs it and the players deserve it.Prothero wrote:Expecting a tight initial 60 minutes in this one then Scotland to win by around 10/20 points? Usa wont roll over as this is probably the game they think they have a chance in.
Horne, Bennett, Russell and Hogg will eventually pop over the line and make the difference.
My guess is due to the law of average's we will pick up our first injury here, Hopefully it's a manageable one?
Im just really hoping we get our glory night in this tournament, something similar to the wales one last night or the Japanese one. A moment in the spotlight where we see it though or produce the last gasp win, This Group of boys just need one big victory here to set up the next four years.
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
America's population is 318million, Scotland's is just over 5.25 million, America GDP is 16.77 trillion dollars and Scotland's is just under 241
Billion. If we spin this right we can paint this as a great victory.
Billion. If we spin this right we can paint this as a great victory.
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
The bar is called mojo on little merrion street. Not always get in with rugby tops in but the street is cool and there are several bars. To watch matches the brotherhood is good with lots if screens
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:All of you on here who are heading to the match, have a great day! Leeds is a great party city, 4 years there at uni taught me as much. Your job for the day is to find some American fans and teach them how to drink! In fact, Bru and Jimbo I think we'd all like to see video evidence of a Team 606v2 v America boat race!
A wonderful idea Mr LLama, however I am in Essex at the mo. convincing MrsPip that my trip to Noocassell will not cost anywhere near what she thinks it will. Apparently I could have taken her away for a romantic weekend for less. I feel this may be a long week.
However, the Stonless Songbird that is Bru will doubtless do the hands across the ocean as Mercaan is his second language y'aall.
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Right in the large bar area outside the ground. About to toddle over and let the stress begin. .
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
The nerves haven't hit me yet for this one, even though I know it is going to be a tough game!
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Looking forward to this match as well. It's the 2nd Pool of Death in a tricky sort of way.
Go well Scotland!
Go well Scotland!
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Looking forward to this one. USA are going to come out swinging and look to drag us into a physical contest. I hope we are able to dictate the terms of the game and exploit our strike runners in the wider channels. Laidlaw set the bar against Japan so I'm looking for a big game from Pyrgos, and Wilson has an awful lot to prove.
Come on Scotland!
Come on Scotland!
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jimbopip wrote:No offence taken Doc. But you have broken Rule 4431 (d) English person choosing to support Scotland's opponents without a note from your mum. You now must buy all Scottish posters a beer
Her Ladyship (mother of Grey) wrote:Dearest Son,
Are you co-mingling with the Scots again? Have I not warned you about this? This kind of fraternisation and mixing of the races can only lead to the ultimate undoing of proper society. I remember back in the good old days when we worked with the Foreign Services. When we lived in distant and darker lands? Oh, the great enjoyment of overthrowing an obstreperous government and being back on our lands in time for tea. If the local upstarts passed a law which we did not like, we changed it. When we allowed elections, we would control them so compliant functionaries would win. We bestowed the glories and benefits of English civilisation and, at that time, the natives were grateful for the crumbs from our tables. Societies knew their proper places. The world today is a darker, more dangerous place. Have you not heeded those lessons? Oh, where is another Lord Nelson or Lord Kitchener when truly needed?
My Son, am I the only person in the world who refuses to call you Grey, that horrid shortening of your middle name. Names are given for a reason, and they should be used. Period. Perhaps I do not understand all these new and liberal ideas. We now give in to the kind of international pressure which was unthinkable just a few generations ago and the world is falling into an abyss. And look at you, living in your self imposed exile in America, openly fraternising with those Americans, who, despite their seeming advamces in technology, are still only colonials who can barely speak English. Like chimpanzees trying to use a fork at the dinner table. Please do not get me wrong, I do like Americans: Everybody should own one.
Finally, you ask me if you can support Scotland's opponents? When the Crowns of England and Scotland were United, we intertwined our fates. You do not have my permission to support their opponents. That would be treasonous and a crime against Her Majesty, whom we love. If you do so, I will not support you when you have to buy all Scottish posters on that Internet Place a beer. You are on your own. Again.
Your loving mother.
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
love it Doc, in short you are a very naughty boy!
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Before the World Cup I had a feeling this game might be the upset of the tournament, I guess we'll see. I'm routing for Scotland as I want them to do well, but I just had a feeling about this game.
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Sounds like a massive Scottish support!
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Given the vast majority of our squad play for Glasgow it was nice to see them March out in their matching shell suits.
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Kick offs!!!
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
Good first hit from Strauss
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Re: Scotland V USA 27th September
RDW_Scotland wrote:Kick offs!!!
Our inability to deal with restarts is embarrassing. Just catch the damn ball!
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