England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September

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ENGLAND v WALES
26 September 2015
KO: 20:00
Twickenham, London

Live on ITV1

Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
Touch judges: Jaco Peyper (South Africa) & Marius Mitrea (Italy)
Television match official: Shaun Veldsman (South Africa)

A. Head to Head

126 Played 126
58 Won 56
12 Drawn 12
56 Lost 58
1,596 Points 1,456

B. Recent Form

6 February 2015
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
16 – 21 to England

9 March 2014
Twickenham Stadium, London
29 – 18 to England

16 March 2013
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
30 – 3 to Wales

25 February 2012
Twickenham Stadium, London
12 – 19 to Wales

13 August 2011
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 9 to Wales

6 August 2011
Twickenham, London
23 – 19 to England

4 February 2011
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 26 to England

6 February 2010
Twickenham, London
30 – 17 to England

14 February 2009
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
23 – 15 to Wales

2 February 2008
Twickenham, London
19 – 26 to Wales

C. Teams

ENGLAND

M Brown (Harlequins); A Watson (Bath), B Barritt (Saracens), S Burgess (Bath), J May (Gloucester); O Farrell (Saracens), B Youngs (Leicester); J Marler (Harlequins), T Youngs (Leicester), D Cole (Leicester), G Parling (Exeter), C Lawes (Northampton), T Wood (Northampton), C Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), B Vunipola (Saracens)

Replacements: R Webber (Bath), M Vunipola (Saracens), K Brookes (Northampton), J Launchbury (Wasps), J Haskell (Wasps), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), G Ford (Bath), A Goode (Saracens).

WALES

Liam Williams (Scarlets); G North (Northampton), S Williams (Scarlets), J Roberts (Harlequins), H Amos (Newport Gwent Dragons); D Biggar (Ospreys), G Davies (Scarlets); G Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), S Baldwin (Ospreys), T Francis (Exeter), B Davies (Wasps), A-W Jones (Ospreys), D Lydiate (Ospreys), S Warburton (Cardiff Blues, capt), T Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons)

Replacements: K Owens (Scarlets), A Jarvis (Ospreys), S Lee (Scarlets), L Charteris (Racing 92), J Tipuric (Ospreys), Lloyd Williams (Cardiff Blues), R Priestland (Bath), A Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues).

How did Wales not get pinged for that!

Clearly in from the side

England concede an ordinate amount of penalties.

Hmmm, thought Ben youngs was doing well

yup, it keeps other sides in games even when they do well.

you can't do it against these top sides.

Hope wigglesworth adds a bit more tempo with the fresh legs

Ben Youngs has been our best player why on earth are we subbing him so early? Absolutely ridiculous. Our most creative player so far is now off the pitch.

I always think Samson Lee looks like someone decided to make a man out of solid muscle, finished, then realised he forgot to put a brain in. Very good player though.

Superb take from Mike Brown, leading to another three points for England.

All going the way that Lancaster thought it would, with Farrell's accurate kicking keeping the opposition at bay.

Youngs might have been injured, by the way.

Agh, missed knock on by Wales and now they get a pen from it

Duty281 wrote:Superb take from Mike Brown, leading to another three points for England.

All going the way that Lancaster thought it would, with Farrell's accurate kicking keeping the opposition at bay.

Youngs might have been injured, by the way.

He did take a heavy knock in the first half

Grrr, too many penalties being conceded.

Both teams failing to adapt to the harsh interpretation of Garces.

Youngs picked up a knock in the first half but that wasn't in evidence when he raced 50m up field on the kick off return.

Wigglesworth with a first box kick straight yo Liam Williams.

jbeadlesbigrighthand wrote:I always think Samson Lee looks like someone decided to make a man out of solid muscle, finished, then realised he forgot to put a brain in. Very good player though.

Right... go up to his caravan on the gypsy site an say that to his face, lol!

England starting to lose a lot of 50/50's to Wales.  Feels like Wales getting on top now.

They are, my feeling they'd outlast Eng seems to be happening.

Long gone are the days when we could utilise a driving maul.

LuvSports! wrote:Long gone are the days when we could utilise a driving maul.

Not the England pack of old at all is it.

Boring whistle oriented game..

We'll have someone in the bin soon

How we that not Frak tackled!

I'm getting that Deja vu kinda feeling. England the better team, but....

The Welsh have finally woken up, England look like their going to throw it away.

Moronic penalty after moronic penalty for England. Wales have remembered they've got an exciting back line as well.

Sigh.

Mako to be binned in the next 10 minutes

Fernando wrote:The Welsh have finally woken up, England look like their going to throw it away.

Dominating this half, lead down to just four... can't see them losing now.

as for backlines.. Eng could have but didn't pick it. so they have quite possibly made a big mistake with that as they were warned.

and then a brilliant break and stupid penalty. This Eng side are thick as Poopie.

I think Wales set piece misfired badly in the first 30, but since then it's been pretty even. the teams are basically cancelling each other out.

Sorry to see another injury

Shifty wrote:I think Wales set piece misfired badly in the first 30, but since then it's been pretty even.  the teams are basically cancelling each other out.

Wales looking better. Eng just doing nothing from midfield.

The leg brace is out for Shane Williams

Wales getting the 50/50 calls now

He was already committed to the tackle, not sure how that was penalised.

Oh good now Haskells on , next Goode to fly half !!
Too many ridiculous penalties .

What a shame for Scott Williams. Lovely player.

Very sorry to see another Welsh injury. No respite for them.

Feel for Williams. Injured what appears seriously in a nothing tackle. He was the stand out in the Wales team as well. Hope he recovers quick.

Dive on the player! The Welsh 8 pushed him!

Feels more and more like Wembley '99 at the moment. Wales second best overall, but doggedly hanging in there and staying in touch with great consistent goal kicking from stupid repetitive England penalties.

Remind me how that one finished? On second thoughts, please don't.

Liam Williams doesn't have good enough pace to be a world class player.

Fernando wrote:The leg brace is out for Shane Williams

Close enough.

I guess England have been working on line outs and not disicplin

arghhh scrappy.

If there were still doubts these training camps are causing all those injuries, there isn't now.

England have to take full advantage from this scrum.

Possible concussion for the Welsh 15?

We have officially run out of players.

Poopie, I know I'm supporting England but at the moment I feel so sorry for Wales. So many injuries - really hope they recover quickly

16 minutes after he comes in Wigglesworth comes to life. Good stuff. Wales need to start putting a number or two to cover the blindside.

Awful luck for Wales with injury. No fan of rugby wants to see this.

This will go one of two ways, Wales will lose or rally to win

Did Gatland burn the effigy of a vengeful African God? This plague of injuries is unbelievable otherwise.

FFS.

This is terrible. Much as I want England to win, Wales will be decimated for the Aussies. I hope these are better than they look.