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England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
First topic message reminder :
ENGLAND v WALES
26 September 2015
KO: 20:00
Twickenham, London
Live on ITV1
Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
Touch judges: Jaco Peyper (South Africa) & Marius Mitrea (Italy)
Television match official: Shaun Veldsman (South Africa)
A. Head to Head
126 Played 126
58 Won 56
12 Drawn 12
56 Lost 58
1,596 Points 1,456
B. Recent Form
6 February 2015
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
16 – 21 to England
9 March 2014
Twickenham Stadium, London
29 – 18 to England
16 March 2013
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
30 – 3 to Wales
25 February 2012
Twickenham Stadium, London
12 – 19 to Wales
13 August 2011
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 9 to Wales
6 August 2011
Twickenham, London
23 – 19 to England
4 February 2011
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 26 to England
6 February 2010
Twickenham, London
30 – 17 to England
14 February 2009
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
23 – 15 to Wales
2 February 2008
Twickenham, London
19 – 26 to Wales
C. Teams
ENGLAND
M Brown (Harlequins); A Watson (Bath), B Barritt (Saracens), S Burgess (Bath), J May (Gloucester); O Farrell (Saracens), B Youngs (Leicester); J Marler (Harlequins), T Youngs (Leicester), D Cole (Leicester), G Parling (Exeter), C Lawes (Northampton), T Wood (Northampton), C Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), B Vunipola (Saracens)
Replacements: R Webber (Bath), M Vunipola (Saracens), K Brookes (Northampton), J Launchbury (Wasps), J Haskell (Wasps), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), G Ford (Bath), A Goode (Saracens).
WALES
Liam Williams (Scarlets); G North (Northampton), S Williams (Scarlets), J Roberts (Harlequins), H Amos (Newport Gwent Dragons); D Biggar (Ospreys), G Davies (Scarlets); G Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), S Baldwin (Ospreys), T Francis (Exeter), B Davies (Wasps), A-W Jones (Ospreys), D Lydiate (Ospreys), S Warburton (Cardiff Blues, capt), T Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons)
Replacements: K Owens (Scarlets), A Jarvis (Ospreys), S Lee (Scarlets), L Charteris (Racing 92), J Tipuric (Ospreys), Lloyd Williams (Cardiff Blues), R Priestland (Bath), A Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues).
ENGLAND v WALES
26 September 2015
KO: 20:00
Twickenham, London
Live on ITV1
Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
Touch judges: Jaco Peyper (South Africa) & Marius Mitrea (Italy)
Television match official: Shaun Veldsman (South Africa)
A. Head to Head
126 Played 126
58 Won 56
12 Drawn 12
56 Lost 58
1,596 Points 1,456
B. Recent Form
6 February 2015
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
16 – 21 to England
9 March 2014
Twickenham Stadium, London
29 – 18 to England
16 March 2013
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
30 – 3 to Wales
25 February 2012
Twickenham Stadium, London
12 – 19 to Wales
13 August 2011
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 9 to Wales
6 August 2011
Twickenham, London
23 – 19 to England
4 February 2011
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
19 – 26 to England
6 February 2010
Twickenham, London
30 – 17 to England
14 February 2009
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
23 – 15 to Wales
2 February 2008
Twickenham, London
19 – 26 to Wales
C. Teams
ENGLAND
M Brown (Harlequins); A Watson (Bath), B Barritt (Saracens), S Burgess (Bath), J May (Gloucester); O Farrell (Saracens), B Youngs (Leicester); J Marler (Harlequins), T Youngs (Leicester), D Cole (Leicester), G Parling (Exeter), C Lawes (Northampton), T Wood (Northampton), C Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), B Vunipola (Saracens)
Replacements: R Webber (Bath), M Vunipola (Saracens), K Brookes (Northampton), J Launchbury (Wasps), J Haskell (Wasps), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), G Ford (Bath), A Goode (Saracens).
WALES
Liam Williams (Scarlets); G North (Northampton), S Williams (Scarlets), J Roberts (Harlequins), H Amos (Newport Gwent Dragons); D Biggar (Ospreys), G Davies (Scarlets); G Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), S Baldwin (Ospreys), T Francis (Exeter), B Davies (Wasps), A-W Jones (Ospreys), D Lydiate (Ospreys), S Warburton (Cardiff Blues, capt), T Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons)
Replacements: K Owens (Scarlets), A Jarvis (Ospreys), S Lee (Scarlets), L Charteris (Racing 92), J Tipuric (Ospreys), Lloyd Williams (Cardiff Blues), R Priestland (Bath), A Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues).
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
well I don't think these line-ups would have been picked two weeks back.
Wales could be very very changed for Fiji.
Wales could be very very changed for Fiji.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
What was wigglesworth thinking! Why didn't he run through the Frak off gap
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
However much I want England to win (and they still might not) this is just awful for Wales. Really do feel for them. Gutting
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
They've really lost that attacking edge, Aussie will not fear a thing.
The France game full of adventure feels a lifetime ago. How i'd love to see our boy Nowell on now.
The France game full of adventure feels a lifetime ago. How i'd love to see our boy Nowell on now.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Will Wales even finish the WC with 15 fit players.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
nathan wrote:What was wigglesworth thinking! Why didn't he run through the Frak off gap
Absolutely ridiculous play. A bus could have been driven through that gap!
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
How hard did Wales push their players on these legendary brutal training camps? Did they push them so far as to them physically exhausted and liable to injury?
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
nathan wrote:Poopie, I know I'm supporting England but at the moment I feel so sorry for Wales. So many injuries - really hope they recover quickly
Absolutely, no team deserves this kind of bad luck. And the RWC is poorer for the absence of all these players: they are class.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
So it's the Welsh to rally option then....
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Well done Wales. Beautifully done.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
That's eng out then I guess.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Jesus fair play to the boys, 2 taken off and they fight ack from their own line and score a try, win or lose we can be proud of their effort. Just a pity about that first 30 mins with the set piece.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Midfield pushes up on an overlap. Pretty sure kids are taught from a young age that's exactly what you don't so.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
and England throw it.
dear God. Well done to an injured and shattered Wales.
dear God. Well done to an injured and shattered Wales.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Wales to win by 10-20 now?
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Hmmm, what was north doing there?
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formerly known as Sam wrote:Midfield pushes up on an overlap. Pretty sure kids are taught from a young age that's exactly what you don't so.
and we see the cost of picking poor midfield options again.
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Astounding and heartwarming if Wales pull this off.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
England have done this a few times over the years against Wales. Bad selections mean they fall apart and Wales run it up late on.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Wish I was up the pub. This is nuts.
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Duty281 wrote:Astounding and heartwarming if Wales pull this off.
true.
sad to see the hosts out of the world cup but c'est la vie. Wales were better.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Might have to turn this off in a minute...
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Webber to Frak the line out up...
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Thats a Billy Big-Balls Call.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
haha awesome maul defence
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
and that sums it up, England don't deserve a thing after picking that midfield.
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I thought Warbs was okay then? Anyway, drove England into touch. Now we just need to win our lineout...
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Strange decision from England. Reminiscent of 2012.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
trebellbobaggins wrote:and that sums it up, England don't deserve a thing after picking that midfield.
Yeah wigglesworth had nothing to do with it....
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Ouch, scrum time coming up, and they're a mess.
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Well that couldn't have been anymore in at the side by Wales.
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Jesus god what a game
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
England out of the world cup. Well done Wales and England.. Lancaster was an idiot with that midfield.
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Congratulations to the Welsh boys, that was a very brave win
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Major choke from England
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Well done Wales, showed great character.
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Well done Wales. With so much stacked against them during that match with injuries, that's a great win, and a big loss for England.
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Great win Wales. I can't believe they came back in that situation. Amazing game. Terrible England.
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Well played Wales. Deserved that on the 2nd half showing.
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Well done Wales.
Stupendous heart and fortitude. Too many errors, England!
Stupendous heart and fortitude. Too many errors, England!
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England screwing their home world cup.
Lancaster gone surely?
Lancaster gone surely?
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
trebellbobaggins wrote:England out of the world cup. Well done Wales and England.. Lancaster was an idiot with that midfield.
Open your Frak eyes mate, wasn't the midfield. Look at the Frak ups by wigglesworth
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Re: England v Wales - Part 2, 26 September
Wow! Beware the wounded Dragon.
That was a great 2nd half from them. Makes the group very interesting now doesn't it.
That was a great 2nd half from them. Makes the group very interesting now doesn't it.
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