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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 11 Oct 2015, 7:33 pm

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Breaking News: Bath move off the foot of the table with their first win of the season, Sale & Quins remain unbeaten while Saints pick up a crucial win at the Madejeski. 



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2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
    Player Draft
    Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

    Round Bidding
    There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.    

    Open Bidding
    From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Sat 21 Nov 2015, 12:35 pm

Borthwick is leaving Bristol so must be joining England

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 21 Nov 2015, 1:06 pm

Think he's a good choice. 

He'll be able to assist the skipper well I think.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 21 Nov 2015, 4:25 pm

Leinster scrum is getting ruined by Bath, Auterac really hammering Ross.

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Post by Guest Sat 21 Nov 2015, 5:37 pm

Auterac is a fine prospect. Think he will come of age this year. That Leinster side is not what it was. Cullen may be out of work soon

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 21 Nov 2015, 5:39 pm

Auterac looked very good, really troubled Ross.

Saints looking equally as good in the scrum against Glasgow.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 21 Nov 2015, 6:03 pm

England are seriously blessed at loosehead, Vunipola, Mullan, Marler. Corbisiero and now looking like Auterac all capable at international level.
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Post by Guest Sun 22 Nov 2015, 12:11 am

Ozzy3213 wrote:England are seriously blessed at loosehead, Vunipola, Mullan, Marler. Corbisiero and now looking like Auterac all capable at international level.


If Vunipola learns to scrum he will be best of best. He is still young
And improves every game.

Him and Auterac will be a battle in years to come. Personally feel corbs is shot as he has same degenerative cartilage as myself. It's a nightmare and not like other injuries where you can come back better. Every thing is a compromise.

Marler despite an awful World Cup ( not helped by youngs and Cole who were both awful) is our world class front rower and will be in his prime next wc. The depth at 1 is great but as the Southern Hemisphere showed in WC scrum is not a big part of winning anymore. Nz got pasted against South Africa where malherbe and beast dominated and Herrera and Ayerza stuffed them for Argentina.

Getting parity or channel 1 is enough most of
The time.

Scrum important but wider approach and scoring tries more important.

Argentina vs good barbarians side today showed how they are now a WOrld class side and play a brand which is so hard to contain. They keep width and attack from deep

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Nov 2015, 4:47 am

The whole front row struggled, none of our options can be seen as world class at the minute for me. I do imagine we'll be fine going forward though as we had Youngs (who's just not a good Int set piece hooker) and two under-powered locked in Lawes/Parling. I very much doubt Jones will go down his route.

Youngs just causes too many issues, he surely can't be selected again. He's a poor scrummager and struggles to hook the ball. His throwing is poor so we bring in two line out locks to counter his bad darts, which then de-powers the scrum even further, it's insane.

It's great to see the English clubs doing so well in the set piece in Europe and loads have impressed. Thomas, Cole and Brookes have looked good on the TH side with Auterec, Mako, Waller, Mullen, Marler on the loose. Taylor, George and Haywood looking good in the hooking department.

The Bath & Northampton scrums have been particularly impressive, we'll be fine for the 6N.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:02 am

Does anybody think we could see some surprises in the England 23 for the 6N?


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Post by Guest Sun 22 Nov 2015, 4:19 pm

Who has Auterac on here?

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Post by Fluxy Sun 22 Nov 2015, 4:34 pm

I do!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:27 pm

Great start by Wasps, only area Toulon are on top is the scrum.

I don't why the they don't target the 13 channel more, Basteraud is running over Daly every time.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:29 pm

Magic from Piutau

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:40 pm

Simpsons been tremendous. He offers far more than Youngs

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:46 pm

Apart from the ability to pass.

Wasps have been immense at the breakdown. Armitage made zero impact only to be replaced by Vermeulen.....crazy.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:48 pm

Cracking stuff

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Nov 2015, 6:49 pm

You don't stop Hughes from 5m out.

Launchbury & the Wasps backrow have been on a different planet. Really impressed with Jackson too. Well deserved win.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:08 pm

Is there a better 8 than Hughes in the NH at the minute? He's been absolutley brilliant every game this season (sorry for the big up)

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 22 Nov 2015, 7:49 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Apart from the ability to pass.

Wasps have been immense at the breakdown. Armitage made zero impact only to be replaced by Vermeulen.....crazy.

Youngs can pass?! :o
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Nov 2015, 8:06 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Simpsons been tremendous. He offers far more than Youngs

Agree Steve, over last 18 months he's been brilliant for us. He still makes some iffy game management decisions at times but all other areas of his game have improved out of sight. He has to be in the 6Nations team.

Gaskell was fantastic for us today, he worked his backside off - had to be motm? Having Piatu as no15 has made a massive difference as well - he's world class and gives us such a great attacking option. Good to be a Wasps fan again!!!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 22 Nov 2015, 10:10 pm

Does anyone have Sam Twomey? I see he isn't in Steve's squad...
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 22 Nov 2015, 10:23 pm

I had him CJ - released him, don't think anyone picked him up.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun 22 Nov 2015, 10:46 pm

Thanks. Looks like he's becoming a v good player at Quins, worth a gamble for future I reckon
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 4:01 am

ChequeredJersey wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Apart from the ability to pass.

Wasps have been immense at the breakdown. Armitage made zero impact only to be replaced by Vermeulen.....crazy.

Youngs can pass?! :o

Well maybe not the best person to compare but he makes Simpson look like Bergermasco. Simpson has the worst pass of any scrum half in the AP for me, I don't know how he hasn't improved over the years.

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Post by Guest Mon 23 Nov 2015, 8:30 am

Simpson has a fantastic pass and excellent box kick. With all our other options not too great he needs to be given a chance.

In Sunday telegraph geech said even on a bad day Simpsons pass is better than youngs which I agree with.

Youngs manages a game better but has
Never had a great pass. I would always start care above youngs who I have never been keen on.

Simpson has always had a good pass but his game could go to pieces if pressured. He used to struggle to replicate his skills under pressure but for the last 18 months that has not been the case. We need to reward form and he is the form player,

Same with Daly for me. Both of them need to be in the squad. Apparently launch is one of the candidates for the captaincy.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 9:06 am

"Simpson has a fantastic pass"

The words fantastic and Simpson's pass should never be wrote together again. Simpson has easily the worst pass in the AP imo and his game management is even worse. I think his running game blinkers a lot of people into thinking he's a good scrum half, I don't get it.

A Simpson/Ford partnership at Int level could be game over. Both have management issues, they'd be a fair of fannies together, just running everywhere. Ford needs a more controlled 9 and Simpson needs to be on the wing.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 23 Nov 2015, 10:05 am

Apologies for no predos this weekend lads, very busy!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 23 Nov 2015, 10:19 am

Simpson managed to manage his side to a demolition of Toulon.

He deserves a go. It might not work, but he can't offer less than Youngs has of late.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 10:31 am

I don't think you can credit that to just Simpson Steve, the Wasps pack (esp the backrow) gave them a great platform to work off. Jackson looked like a world beater, very impressive.

I just don't rate Simpson and will struggle to ever get my head round a scrum half with poor passing and game management.

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Post by BamBam Mon 23 Nov 2015, 10:33 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I don't think you can credit that to just Simpson Steve, the Wasps pack (esp the backrow) gave them a great platform to work off. Jackson looked like a world beater, very impressive.

I just don't rate Simpson and will struggle to ever get my head round a scrum half with poor passing and game management.

Really? You should have mentioned it mate Run

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 23 Nov 2015, 10:55 am

Youngs has had more chances than any 9 I can remember. He hasn't done anything like enough to warrant this continued faith when you have guys who have never had a shot. 1 great game in 10 or 15 isn't what is required. 

The wasps back row had nothing to do with how Simpson and Jackson managed the game. They were both outstanding. SImpson's kicking and passing was great and he also made numerous turnovers. It might not work for him but my word he deserves a chance.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 11:47 am

Youngs had a really impressive 6N's, this seems to be easily forgotten. Maybe Simpson should be given a shot, he'd need Farrell at 10 to calm him down though imo

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 23 Nov 2015, 12:03 pm

Only Mike Brown deserves to keep his place without doubt in my mind. Every other position there is a debate to be had. 

Hooker, Flankers and scrum half are at the forefront of this in my eyes.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 23 Nov 2015, 12:06 pm

Simpson definitely deserves a shot, but some of the criticism of Ben Youngs is way over the top.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 12:08 pm

Yea you're probably right Steve.

I just think Simpsons decent showing are getting blown out of proportion and Youngs is getting knocked for playing pretty well. Both are being judged at completely different levels.

There were 2 (I think) regular International players (Lobbe & Habana?) in that Toulon team yesterday. It was a pretty poor front 5 they had out and Wasps took advantage off a great platform from the pack.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 12:09 pm

Youngs has had some cracking games over the last year, some people on here (606 in general) seem to have 2 week memories!

Somebody just picked an England team with Hill, Gaskell & Daly as starters?!?!

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Post by BamBam Mon 23 Nov 2015, 12:13 pm

Thats true, Toulon may have spent all that money, but of that starting front 5, only Manoa is up to scratch imo, and even he is more of a back rower.

They don't seem to value front 5 forwards, if they did they would have been throwing money at the likes of Ayerza, Stevens and Chiocci should not be the starting props for a team with that budget

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Post by ChequeredJersey Mon 23 Nov 2015, 1:10 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Youngs has had some cracking games over the last year, some people on here (606 in general) seem to have 2 week memories!

Somebody just picked an England team with Hill, Gaskell & Daly as starters?!?!

He had a good 6N, for sure, just passing isn't his strength! Not Simpson's either, but think he's earnt a run out at least, still behind Care and Youngs but close
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 23 Nov 2015, 2:10 pm

Pleasing to see 10 EQ players (only Strettle at a French side) in the team of the week.

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/team-of-the-week-champions-cup-8/

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 23 Nov 2015, 4:05 pm

Can I have clarification whether mike Williams is eq or not please?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 23 Nov 2015, 4:06 pm

Williams is EQ Prop and has been since he came into the game. Unless he takes a cap for Zimbabwe he will always be EQ

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 23 Nov 2015, 4:53 pm

Ok cheers
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Post by Fluxy Mon 23 Nov 2015, 5:04 pm

I wish I didn't release him now Sad

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 6:06 pm

Gloucester chasing Auterac apparently, would make sense given their options at LH. Would he leave Bath for Gloucester though??

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 23 Nov 2015, 6:23 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:"Simpson has a fantastic pass"

The words fantastic and Simpson's pass should never be wrote together again. Simpson has easily the worst pass in the AP imo and his game management is even worse. I think his running game blinkers a lot of people into thinking he's a good scrum half, I don't get it.

A Simpson/Ford partnership at Int level could be game over. Both have management issues, they'd be a fair of fannies together, just running everywhere. Ford needs a more controlled 9 and Simpson needs to be on the wing.

Think you might be on your own with that comment - worst pass in the AP? He's been good since Bracken coached him and has been improving incredibly over last 18 months, he's finally being given a platform by our pack, which for 3-4 seasons was very poor.

Personally don't think any other scrum half has done enough to stop Simpson getting a spot in the match day 23 during the 6Nations. Youngs has all the qualities to be the best but is frustratingly inconsistent, Wigglesworth good game management but won't set the world on fire and would really only make Italy's team and Care's form has been hit and miss, but seems to be getting a good run together. I;d go Care and Simpson for 6Nations.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 6:28 pm

Care & Youngs are streets ahead of the others.

I honestly can't think of a worse passing starting scrum half in the AP. We have Young(who's better), Wuss have Arr(who's better) and Irish have the lad from S15(who's better).

Simpson is just an awful passer of the ball. Luckily he's lightening quick and makes some great breaks which have caught the eye of the armchair fan, good on the lad.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 23 Nov 2015, 6:29 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Only Mike Brown deserves to keep his place without doubt in my mind. Every other position there is a debate to be had. 

Hooker, Flankers and scrum half are at the forefront of this in my eyes.

Agree with you there Steve - no idea what stye Jones will play, as he was so conservative when Aussie manager but Japan played a great expansive game. The best teams are all playing wide now, look at how Wasps beat Toulon they spread the ball and didnt give the bigger pack a chance at all.

We need to focus on a style, would like to see Ford and Slade given the 10/12 shirts, but for that to work properly we need Tuilagi back or bring a powerful wing like Roko back into the fold. Hartley will walk straight back in as need a good set piece and can see Launch being given the captaincy as he could be the only 100% shoe in for the team in the pack.

Flankers I have no idea, but can't wait to see BV and Hughes in the same match day 23 - would be devastating.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 23 Nov 2015, 6:31 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Care & Youngs are streets ahead of the others.

I honestly can't think of a worse passing starting scrum half in the AP. We have Young(who's better), Wuss have Arr(who's better) and Irish have the lad from S15(who's better).

Simpson is just an awful passer of the ball. Luckily he's lightening quick and makes some great breaks which have caught the eye of the armchair fan, good on the lad.

Go watch him play a game live. Guys like Geech and all the other pundits who are saying how well he's played last 18 months seem to say the complete opposite to you, haven't actually seen anyone else criticise him.

Shall we drop the Simpson chat?!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 23 Nov 2015, 6:31 pm

Launchbury a good shout for captain, he's certainly a starter. Hartley has struggled a bit this season, needs a good run of games. George has easily been the best hooker, very impressive.

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