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QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
First topic message reminder :
NEW ZEALAND v FRANCE
17 October 2015
KO: 20:00 BST (UTC+01)
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Live on telly
Ref: Nigel Owens (Wales)
ARs: Jaco Peyper (South Africa) and John Lacey (Ireland)
TMO: Shaun Veldsman (South Africa)
A. Head to Head
55 Played 55
42 Won 12
1 Drawn 1
12 Lost 42
1,345 Points 713
B. Recent Form
9 November 2013
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
19 – 26 to New Zealand
22 June 2013
Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth
24 – 9 to New Zealand
15 June 2013
Rugby League Park, Christchurch
30 – 0 to New Zealand
8 June 2013
Eden Park, Auckland
23 – 13 to New Zealand
23 October 2011
Eden Park, Auckland
8 – 7 to New Zealand
24 September 2011
Eden Park, Auckland
37 – 17 to New Zealand
28 November 2009
Stade Vélodrome, Marseille
12 – 39 to New Zealand
20 June 2009
Westpac Stadium, Wellington
14 – 10 to New Zealand
13 June 2009
Carisbrook, Dunedin
22 – 27 to France
6 October 2007
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales
18 – 20 to France
C. TEAMS:
NEW ZEALAND
Ben Smith; Nehe Milner-Skudder, Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Julian Savea; Dan Carter, Aaron Smith; Wyatt Crockett, Dane Coles, Owen Franks, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Jerome Kaino, Richie McCaw (capt), Kieran Read.
Replacements: Keven Mealamu, Joe Moody, Charlie Faumuina, Victor Vito, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Beauden Barrett, Sonny Bill Williams
FRANCE
Scott Spedding; Noa Nakaitaci, Alexandre Dumoulin, Wesley Fofana, Brice Dulin; Frederic Michalak, Morgan Parra; Eddy Ben Arous, Guilhem Guirado, Rabah Slimani, Pascal Pape, Yoann Maestri, Thierry Dusautoir (capt), Bernard Le Roux, Louis Picamoles.
Replacements: Dimitri Szarzewski, Vincent Debaty, Nicolas Mas, Damien Chouly, Yannick Nyanga, Rory Kockott, Remi Tales, Mathieu Bastareaud
NEW ZEALAND v FRANCE
17 October 2015
KO: 20:00 BST (UTC+01)
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
Live on telly
Ref: Nigel Owens (Wales)
ARs: Jaco Peyper (South Africa) and John Lacey (Ireland)
TMO: Shaun Veldsman (South Africa)
A. Head to Head
55 Played 55
42 Won 12
1 Drawn 1
12 Lost 42
1,345 Points 713
B. Recent Form
9 November 2013
Stade de France, Saint-Denis
19 – 26 to New Zealand
22 June 2013
Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth
24 – 9 to New Zealand
15 June 2013
Rugby League Park, Christchurch
30 – 0 to New Zealand
8 June 2013
Eden Park, Auckland
23 – 13 to New Zealand
23 October 2011
Eden Park, Auckland
8 – 7 to New Zealand
24 September 2011
Eden Park, Auckland
37 – 17 to New Zealand
28 November 2009
Stade Vélodrome, Marseille
12 – 39 to New Zealand
20 June 2009
Westpac Stadium, Wellington
14 – 10 to New Zealand
13 June 2009
Carisbrook, Dunedin
22 – 27 to France
6 October 2007
Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, Wales
18 – 20 to France
C. TEAMS:
NEW ZEALAND
Ben Smith; Nehe Milner-Skudder, Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Julian Savea; Dan Carter, Aaron Smith; Wyatt Crockett, Dane Coles, Owen Franks, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Jerome Kaino, Richie McCaw (capt), Kieran Read.
Replacements: Keven Mealamu, Joe Moody, Charlie Faumuina, Victor Vito, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Beauden Barrett, Sonny Bill Williams
FRANCE
Scott Spedding; Noa Nakaitaci, Alexandre Dumoulin, Wesley Fofana, Brice Dulin; Frederic Michalak, Morgan Parra; Eddy Ben Arous, Guilhem Guirado, Rabah Slimani, Pascal Pape, Yoann Maestri, Thierry Dusautoir (capt), Bernard Le Roux, Louis Picamoles.
Replacements: Dimitri Szarzewski, Vincent Debaty, Nicolas Mas, Damien Chouly, Yannick Nyanga, Rory Kockott, Remi Tales, Mathieu Bastareaud
Last edited by George Carlin on Sat 17 Oct 2015, 8:10 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Come now Notch. Saying silly things like that is setting the scene so that you can have a pop at the ABs after the game regardless of the result. So you subscribe to the Michalak school of thought that France have a 2% chance of winning? Neither he, nor you, believe this.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
I'm with Nothch here NZ by 25
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
The ABs should walk this....it all points that way...
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Hey now, you're being a little over-zealous. I'm not interested in having a pop at the All Blacks whatever happens. Quarter-final rugby is quarter-final rugby, and it's not the scoreline that matters. You shouldn't care whether its a 5-point margin or a 25-point margin so long as you get the job done.
But honestly, 2% chance of winning sounds about right. Let's look at Frances record over the past few years. Since the last World Cup they have not made the Top 3 of the Six Nations even once- finishing 4th, 6th, 4th and 4th. They have a win rate of just 46% in that period. They were outclassed in their last game by an Ireland team who lost three key players to injury. England put 55 points on them just a few months ago!
I just do not rate them that highly. They are massively physical and will put in some very big carries and hits in defence. But they do not have the brains to go with that brawn.
But honestly, 2% chance of winning sounds about right. Let's look at Frances record over the past few years. Since the last World Cup they have not made the Top 3 of the Six Nations even once- finishing 4th, 6th, 4th and 4th. They have a win rate of just 46% in that period. They were outclassed in their last game by an Ireland team who lost three key players to injury. England put 55 points on them just a few months ago!
I just do not rate them that highly. They are massively physical and will put in some very big carries and hits in defence. But they do not have the brains to go with that brawn.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
New Zealand by 3....
Tries.
And a penalty.
Tries.
And a penalty.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
France by 26 points
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Nooooooooot
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
These are just opinions everyone's entitled to them except for Cyril
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Especially squirrel
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Will be rooting for France.
Massive underdogs.
Massive underdogs.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
nathan wrote:France by 26 points
Guess you meant you already are on your 26th pint
Anyway hope the score remains respectable. Am off now...
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Good luck who cares
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
If France can get on top in the scrum as I think they may and feed off that, you never know
But I think NZ by 10
But I think NZ by 10
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
France by 5.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Would love it if the French just turned around and mooned the Haka.
They'd get away with it!
They'd get away with it!
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Honestly, if France can get there set piece going it could be tight. nZ haven't been playing great
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Great start ABs bit nonu should have passed it a few times there!
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Soft soft soft penalty
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nathan wrote:Soft soft soft penalty
Not like New Zealand to get those.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Anyone got a link for me please?
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Great kick, although it does look like his head has been pushed in from the sides
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Oooof, painful
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
About two metres offside...
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ME-109 wrote:About two metres offside...
Lol, looked fine to me
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Took the 9 out surely?
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OMG first time ever an AB has been penalised for Offside....twice...
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Not going to help if he misses those
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
If Spedding can bang them over from 50m why not just let him take them all
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Passing to oneself... a skill we don't see much of these days.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Are NZ offside at each kick off?
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
nathan wrote:Are NZ offside at each kick off?
No, they have quick line speed.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
The Loaded Dog wrote:nathan wrote:Are NZ offside at each kick off?
No, they have quick line speed.
Looks like the player at the bottom is running in front of the kick off
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
NZ are always offside...just refs dont call them
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George Carlin wrote:Anyone got a link for me please?
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Hands... Nonu!
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
The AB's are the better side by miles but they certainly are getting the benefit of the decisions.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Was Crocket just needing a wee rest flopping over like that?
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Why is Owens blowing a lot quicker for a kiwi turnovers
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
This could be a rout
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End of game...as a contest
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Lovely offload
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Did Crockett just drop an elbow
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
This is getting ugly for France
Could be clean sweep for the South this weekend.
Could be clean sweep for the South this weekend.
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Riskysports wrote:Did Crockett just drop an elbow
On the player getting treatment?
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Re: QF2: New Zealand v France, 17 October
Well.. That's that then
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How was macaw not pinged there!
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