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Kill off Wood so we can have the Liam Wood Memorial Tag Team Tournament, simples

Good. It was in the pipeline ages ago but when I floated that Thunder and Wood should lose first round (I wanted this as part of a story arch where for some reason they just couldnt get the job done together...back then Wood won matches so it would have been a big deal) I think the booking committee moved away from ever letting me consider ideas ever again!

Nay Bother wrote:

Paul Mac 6CW wrote:Morning - Another chilly day by the North Sea up here

How's you?

Where are you?

On the North East coast in a little village called Seaham - It's always cold here but today is particularly nippy

We did have a Tag Team edition of Anarchy last year but it is hard to do something outside of storylines but involve the tag titles - If it was a standalone tournament like the Dusty Rhodes thing or the old EWF Iron man then that fits better - Would still try and weave some of it into stories as long as it wasn't to complex

Evening All

What s s**** Day

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Good. It was in the pipeline ages ago but when I floated that Thunder and Wood should lose first round (I wanted this as part of a story arch where for some reason they just couldnt get the job done together...back then Wood won matches so it would have been a big deal) I think the booking committee moved away from ever letting me consider ideas ever again!

Wood has never really won matches

Did he lose his way to titles? We really need to close that loophole

In EWF he won quite a lot...since coming to 6CW he's rarely won.

xviperx wrote:In EWF he won quite a lot...since coming to 6CW he's rarely won.

He is the equivalent of Juan Sebastian Veron

QOTD:
Who would be in WWE's version of The Forgotten?

xviperx wrote:QOTD:
Who would be in WWE's version of The Forgotten?

Bill DeMott, Rene Dupree, Kenzo Suzuki, Mordecai, Jesse and Festus, and Nathan Jones. Led by Armando Estrada.

Nice to see a serious answer to get some chat going around here haha

Sent the Dicey/Cerberus match for you, hope its alright

xviperx wrote:QOTD:
Who would be in WWE's version of The Forgotten?

To answer my own QOTD, in a perfect world it would be

Kurt Angle as the sort of veteran who would be followed by:
CM Punk (Basically the main guy in the team), Batista (The strong guy who feels the fans gave up on him), John Morrison (The high flyer who should have been pushed more), Dolph Ziggler (the current guy who should be pushed but isn't) and AJ Styles and The Young Bucks (I know they've not been in WWE before but I'd have them talk about how they've been the best all over the world and they've been overlooked).

I'd have them clash with HHH, Cena and other WWE faces while internal clashes between Punk and the others would finally cause a break up...during this I'd bring Balor up to feud with Styles to help turn the Bucks face (as they would clearly be too over to be major heels) reforming a version of the Bullet Club which would allow us to see them in matches against teams like The New Day and The Wyatt Family...Balor goes for a singles title while the Bucks win the tag titles.

I disagree. The Forgotten aren't former 6CW main event stars. Why would they be Angle/Punk/Batista?

At least my answer has forgotten stars. Which is what The Forgotten is. They basically didn't make it first time around.

Like a new Job Squad

Morning all

Not quite job squad, just weren't given a fair shot previously so turned to Mr Jones and became part of The Forgotten.

With all respect The Forgotten wouldn't have worked if it was a load of former Champions.

I think a returning ex-Champ would have helped the story and given the team a leader that has deep ties with the company

With all respect is it working now?

There's a question!

I think it is working now but there's a lot more to come I'd hope.

A returning ex-GM was enough of a leader I think. The Forgotten needed it's participants to have been forgotten.

But how many of the Forgotten where "Forgotten" ex-6CW/EWF guys?

Mr Jones
Masters
Joshua
Hokori (sp)
Stevens
Philips
Crime Lord

When you say Forgotten do you mean - Ryder/Otunga/Sandow/Axel etc or just Maven types

Punk publicly had issues with HHH and felt pushed to the back...Batista was pushed away by the fans when he won the Rumble last year. Angle is now seen as a TNA guy etc.

Thats all well and good but you could hardly call Punk/Batista/Angle forgotten stars now could you?

Punk you could for sure...he says himself he felt pushed to the back during his own title run...he was the champion of the company but numerous times was pushed to the back for John Cena...he lost his title to a returning star in the form of the Rock so that he could face Cena in the main event.

Punk feels he didn't get what he deserved from the company, so if he was to come back a Forgotten storyline would be perfect for him.

He was one of the biggest stars in Wrestling especially after the so called pipebomb, so in the limelight or not or overshadowed by Cena or not he still isnt "Forgotten" by anyone

As I've said...it's based on how "he" felt...you could argue that Masters and Joshua aren't Forgotten but they're still involved aren't they.

He was one of the biggest stars but he felt pushed back by Cena despite being the champion...Cena vs Rock headlined over him. This isn't my opinion this is actually how he's described how the company made him feel.

And as I've said above how many members in The Forgotten are "Forgotten" ex-members of 6CW/EWF

If the storyline was in the WWE and Punk returned to be a member of The Forgotten of course people would be shocked and excited but on the other hand wondering why they think he was forgotten but just a cry baby because there were bigger star than him

Afternoon people,

I think the initial point of the Forgotten, as the 4 piece, was correct. Stars that for some reason or another have fallen out of favour or never reached their potential.

Once Joshua joined, that faded as the group's policy. Even more so than when Masters and Jones joined.

Personally now I think The Forgotten doesn't have to mean Forgotten in a wrestling sense but for other examples. Jones explained it well in a segment a few weeks back. Joshua, for instance, was Forgotten by humanity and shunted up into that childhood nursery.

However, as a group, I think it is more a name now than an ideal

Personally my Forgotten would be (and I am using examples across the history of WWE/F)

Marty Jannety (The failed member of the Rockers)
Jim Duggan (won first Rumble but went onto nothing)
Muhammad Hassan (dropped embarrassingly)
Honky Tonk Man (pinned in 31 seconds by Ultimate Warrior after being longest reigning IC champ. Went down the card after)
Vladimir Kozlov (bigged up hugely but then fell to nothing - Rusev took his gimmick and got more out of it)

The idea of them being Forgotten made the stable unique, out looking for revenge on the company that wronged them, now they are just like all the other heel stables down the line, power mad boss that wants the company

I agree but their mission had to change and that happened once they became successful and were able to take power for Mr Jones...I see them lasting a few more months but cracks will show soon

I feel compelled to join in, i will ask about dinner later to set everyone at ease but i see this debate as the exact problem with The Forgotten and why they will start to fall apart.

The Group itself is basically a microcosm  (right word?) of the original forgottens careers so far. While yes they were able to take power for Mr Jones, it was as part of the group not individually. (So nobody stands out)

But now Joshua, Masters Crime Lord have joined, who as leader would you turn to if you needed, say Keith Leone taken out. It wouldnt be, no disrespect, Jimmy Phillips.

So i can see these guys becoming the forgotten in the forgotten and that will cause the group problems. Maybe

Just how i see it

I think that was a brilliant post Nay and think that's a great look at it.

Nay Bother wrote:I feel compelled to join in, i will ask about dinner later to set everyone at ease but i see this debate as the exact problem with The Forgotten and why they will start to fall apart.

The Group itself is basically a microcosm  (right word?) of the original forgottens careers so far. While yes they were able to take power for Mr Jones, it was as part of the group not individually.  (So nobody stands out)

But now Joshua, Masters Crime Lord have joined, who as leader would you turn to if you needed, say Keith Leone taken out. It wouldnt be, no disrespect, Jimmy Phillips.

So i can see these guys becoming the forgotten in the forgotten and that will cause the group problems. Maybe

Just how i see it

I'd say this is why I hope the "Forgotten vs 6CW" stuff kind of dies on its a*** a bit. It didnt make anyone strong. It was a story that kind of had to be done, but not one that I felt has benefited anyone really, and it only really did any good for Thunder and Adamson across the whole feud.

When is the show

Tonight Nay - Posting soon

Cool sweet.

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:

Nay Bother wrote:I feel compelled to join in, i will ask about dinner later to set everyone at ease but i see this debate as the exact problem with The Forgotten and why they will start to fall apart.

The Group itself is basically a microcosm  (right word?) of the original forgottens careers so far. While yes they were able to take power for Mr Jones, it was as part of the group not individually.  (So nobody stands out)

But now Joshua, Masters Crime Lord have joined, who as leader would you turn to if you needed, say Keith Leone taken out. It wouldnt be, no disrespect, Jimmy Phillips.

So i can see these guys becoming the forgotten in the forgotten and that will cause the group problems. Maybe

Just how i see it

I'd say this is why I hope the "Forgotten vs 6CW" stuff kind of dies on its a*** a bit. It didnt make anyone strong. It was a story that kind of had to be done, but not one that I felt has benefited anyone really, and it only really did any good for Thunder and Adamson across the whole feud.

I dont think its a bad thing, would make for an interesting dynamic of a faction in faction as they struggle to keep control.

Would give folks a chance to break out from the group.

Indeed, it advances the story greatly, its just one of those has to happen things before they real great stuff.

I think this is something that happens within a lot of story lines...you hit a point where it's probably run it's course and we may be getting to that point here with The Forgotten as a group...it wouldn't shock me to have Austin and Hokori lose the tag title belts tonight to allow them to become the first two to leave the group...I feel Austin isn't the sort of guy who can survive with others for that long so him being the first to jump/be pushed would make sense.

I think for what it's worth the Forgotten story line up until this point has been amazing.

Nay Bother wrote:I feel compelled to join in, i will ask about dinner later to set everyone at ease but i see this debate as the exact problem with The Forgotten and why they will start to fall apart.

The Group itself is basically a microcosm  (right word?) of the original forgottens careers so far. While yes they were able to take power for Mr Jones, it was as part of the group not individually.  (So nobody stands out)

But now Joshua, Masters Crime Lord have joined, who as leader would you turn to if you needed, say Keith Leone taken out. It wouldnt be, no disrespect, Jimmy Phillips.

So i can see these guys becoming the forgotten in the forgotten and that will cause the group problems. Maybe

Just how i see it

Rude

I jest of course

I've changed your username Nay, make sure you remember you need to use the new one to log in.

Best use of a name change I've seen since Chris going to Dolphin Ziggler.

Ahhh perfect, cheers Crimey

Ding-a-ling-ding, look what it is, AFTERMATH!

https://www.606v2.com/t61363-6cw-aftermath-results-monday-23rd-november#3214604

Thank you everyone who helped out with the show(still technically posted on the 23rd for all the time-keepers out there!) hope you enjoy it. Card will be up tomorrow for the next show!

Cracking read, loved the ending and without giving spoilers away i loved the aftermath of the dicey fight

https://www.606v2.com/t61368-6cw-anarchy-monday-9th-december-2015#3214772

New card guys. Match writers & segment volunteers always welcome

Morning all

Great show lads, it had a PPV feel about it

Be go to promo with Engel again, his actions at Aftermath have me intrigued

Afternoon All

How goes.

Great show guys

Afternoon Nay and welcome back

Cheers

As this is a spoiler free zone at the moment, whats everyone having for lunch.

Pork and chorizo burger with side of coleslaw here