Bags on the Tee and Other Poor Etiquette

Golf monthly have a list at the moment with 14 bits of poor etiquette (14 Rules Of Golf Etiquette You Are Probably Breaking).  Most of it is american centric about cart paths, buggies and practice putting greens.  But they list putting your bag on the tee box as badd etiquette that can scuff the grass or distract people hitting drives.   I have never heard that you are not meant to put your bag on the tee and probably do it on most holes I play.  Have you ever heard of this and does it hack you off when people leave their bags on the tee?

And what other poor etiquette is currently annoying you?

Who cares about bags on the tee? They weigh a lot less than people.
What annoys me most is people who insist on certain regulations such as knee length socks or not changing shoes in the car park.

I'm aware of the bags on the tee box one, but in our club it's sort of unspoken that those who carry can put their bags on the unused area of the tee box as long as they're well out of the way. Bags on trolleys never go on the tee box. I don't think there is much logic in it - it's more of a tradition. Professionals obviously have their bags on the tee, and they are carry bags so maybe it stems from there.

I once played with a guy in a comp who made several comments about me leaving my stand bag on the teeing area, I thought he was just a naughty naughty boy and have never come across mention of this issue again.

If someone told me not to do that I'd keep doing it, just to annoy him and watch his scores go downhill.
When using a trolley I tend to put it to the side, and unless there's a path, it goes on the tee box too. Really, there are bigger things for people to worry about.

Super, what do you think I did?

Anything you did would have been superfluous

Never mind the tee, does anyone else find the not leaving bags on the green seriously irritating? In Australia you can't leave the bag on the green but at even the most prestigious clubs it seems ok to pull a trolley over the green. So much better than having to walk around the side.

If there's obvious room not to have a bag on the tee, I don't put it on the tee.
There's no way I'd put a nag on a green. if that's what your last post is angling at (hard to tell...).

I was just commenting that in Aus they let you take a trolley over the green.

I would like to be able to lay my bag on the green and often do if the course is really quiet and I am playing alone, but in general this is considered seriously bad etiquette.

What do people think about chipping on the green, if for example you have a chinese snooker?

I assume chinese snooker means when you are on green but have to go over a section of fringe to get to hole.

I have no issues with it, i won't do it but not for reasons of etiquette and more around the fear of chunking one and ruining the green.

I have done it frequently, couldn't give a toss about etiquette in this case, the aim of the game is to get the ball in the hole, so as it's not against the rules, I'm happy to do it and if a sniffy playing partner turns his nose up, that's his problem.

I don't like chipping on the green as I worry it would cause the green staff unnecessary and tricky work.

As I said above if the course is quiet I have no issue laying my bag on the green as long as it isn't soft enough to mark the green. But chipping is always guaranteed to cause damage.

Chipping is not guaranteed to cause damage Mac, if you think that, you're not adept at chipping.

I sometimes do take my bag onto the tee of par 3 holes if the markers aren't close to the side I'm approaching from. I always carry and feel it helps speed up play as I don't need to trapse all the way back across once I've got the yardage and so chosen my club (and yes I do know my yardages thanks Super!).

Where is the evidence that even at "prestigious" Australian clubs, you can pull or push a trolley over a green? I've never heard anything so ridiculous. Even at the most chavvy muni pitch and putt courses I wouldn't expect to see a trolley on the green

The members who I played the courses with took their trolley's across the greens. Maybe I just kept getting paired with renegades?

Tees actually need traffic on them. There are Champion tees at St.Andrews and others which suffer from not having much play on them. They get very soft and mossy. So if you want to put your bag on the tee, there's no reason not to.

I've never really thought about not putting my bag on the tee area. I just put it where there is room. I would never take my bag on to the green, that just seems likely to damage the green, always leave it by the side where you walk to the next hole, it annoys me when people leave their bags at the front then have to walk back to get them before walking to the next hole. Ive seen pros chip on the greens, so I cannot imagine anyone has an issue with that, unless, like me it is likely i will make a horlicks and take a chunk out the green.

Dont think ive ever seen anyone walk a trolley over a green.

Re. chipping on greens. I have done it when stymied by a bunker and a nasty flag position. Didn't really damage the green but, as it's allowed, it wouldn't bother me if I did. I might mention it to a Committee member to pass onto the greens staff etc - if you have a flag position where this is possible/likely, more fool them that put it there.

Rolling trolleys across the green is definitely an Aussie custom.

Can't imagine why those who carry their bags wouldn't place their bag on the tee, or at least right beside it if appropriate. Never used a pull cart/trolley but wouldn't think that's much different.

Definitely pull trolleys across some course greens in Aus. First time I saw it was first time I played Kingston Heath. Chap I was playing with explained that green keeper didn't want unsightly traffic lines round the edge of greens/bunkers where grass was longer, and greens were so hard you could not damage them. I still couldn't do it until we came to the one double green on the course - "long walk now, or you can follow me!"
They don't do it in winter when greens are softer, but it is very common in Summer.
As for bags on tees, why not if there is room and no distraction. Trolleys not especially if ground is soft.