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Post by George Carlin Sat 05 Mar 2016, 8:15 am

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SCOTLAND v FRANCE
13 March 2016
KO: 15:00 GMT
BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh

Live on BBC, FR2, RTE, FR2, DMAX / ITV(H)

Referee: Glen Jackson (New Zealand)
Touch judges: [tbc]
Television match official: [tbc]

A. Head to Head

85 Played 85
34 Won 49
2 Drawn 2
49 Lost 34
1,009 Points 1,150

B. Recent Form

5 September 2015: Stade de France, Saint-Denis
19 – 16 to France

7 February 2015 : Stade de France, Saint-Denis
15 – 8 to France

8 March 2014: Murrayfield, Edinburgh
17 – 19 to France

16 March 2013: Stade de France, Saint-Denis
23 – 16 to France

26 February 2012: Murrayfield, Edinburgh
17 – 23 to France

5 February 2011 : Stade de France, Saint-Denis
34 – 21 to France

7 February 2010 : Murrayfield, Edinburgh
9 – 18 to France

C. Teams

SCOTLAND 
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[tbc]

FRANCE
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[tbc]


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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm

Hogg or Taylor for motm? Tough call so far
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:31 pm

Great try. Love the overhead tap pass.
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:32 pm

Hogg obviously played netball in an earlier life.
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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:32 pm

Trin- duc has done hee haw today.
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:34 pm

England supporters should be appearing here in their droves shortly to thank Scotland for winning the Championship for them a week early.


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Post by George Carlin Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:34 pm

Glen Jackson electing not to refereeing scrums at all now.
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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:34 pm

A great try for Scotland Hog new exactly what he was doing there.

Scotland doing very well so far. Lets have more of the same for the rest of the game please.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:35 pm

Pot Hale wrote:England supporters should be appearing here in their droves shortly to thank Scotland for winning the Championship for them a week early.

This is Scotland we're talking about, we're more than capable of losing this match from here

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:35 pm

Come on you Sweaties. We haven't won a 6N Championship for far too long..

Just for you Pot.
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Post by Cyril Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:37 pm

Scotland deserve this win, but my god France are bad.

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:39 pm

Thank you SCOTLAND

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Post by SecretFly Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:45 pm

France might get back into this game

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Post by SecretFly Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:47 pm

...ah...just ran out of time... Smile

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:47 pm

Yes! That one felt good!

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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:47 pm

Well played Scotland the better team on the day and about the best game Scotland have played for along time.

Oh and thank you. clap clap clap clap clap clap

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:49 pm

Ken what. I'll miss Sean Lamont when he goes. Just saying
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Post by Cyril Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:49 pm

Fair play to Hogg, that was one of the performances of the championship.

Well done Scotland!

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Post by TJ Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:49 pm

*does the happy dance*

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Post by Guest Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:50 pm

Well done, Scotland. Delighted you got the win clap


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Post by VinceWLB Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:50 pm

Very good win that, the best under Cotter yet.

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Post by George Carlin Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:51 pm

Cyril wrote:Scotland deserve this win, but my god France are bad.
So I guess you'll beat them like they owe you money next week then, Cyril? chin
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Post by TJ Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:52 pm

Well thats a bit more like it.  Scotland playing as us scots fans know they can.  Bring on Ireland!

Even when the game swung towards France we kept our heads and discipline.  Some great rugby from the boys.  Losing the try just on half time did not put too much of a dent in things and 3 tries!

Some very good performances there.  Taylor was good, Front row did well.  Horne did OK, Hogg back to his best.  Big Ritchie looking hungry even Visser looked the part!


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Post by Cyril Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:54 pm

George Carlin wrote:
Cyril wrote:Scotland deserve this win, but my god France are bad.
So I guess you'll beat them like they owe you money next week then, Cyril? chin
Nah, they'll raise their game against us. You know how it works!

Seriously though, Scotland had a lot to do with France looking poor. Not knocking the victory at all Smile

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:55 pm

Congrats Scotland on a hugely impressive win.

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:55 pm

By the way what a difference Strauss made in comparison with Denton..

Horne reivented himself at flyhalf, didn't think he had it in him to play like that at this level, i think he played better than Russell would have.


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Post by Heaf Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm

Well played Scotland - well deserved win.

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm

Ps, happy to have been proven wrong today by Horne.
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Post by George Carlin Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm

Cyril wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
Cyril wrote:Scotland deserve this win, but my god France are bad.
So I guess you'll beat them like they owe you money next week then, Cyril? chin
Nah, they'll raise their game against us. You know how it works!

Seriously though, Scotland had a lot to do with France looking poor. Not knocking the victory at all Smile
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Post by TJ Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:56 pm

Cyril wrote:
George Carlin wrote:
Cyril wrote:Scotland deserve this win, but my god France are bad.
So I guess you'll beat them like they owe you money next week then, Cyril? chin
Nah, they'll raise their game against us. You know how it works!

Seriously though, Scotland had a lot to do with France looking poor. Not knocking the victory at all Smile

Thank you. I thought France played well in parts and looked dangerous but lost the verve in the second half.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 13 Mar 2016, 4:58 pm

VinceWLB wrote:By the way what a difference Strauss made in comparison with Denton..

Horne reivented himself at flyhalf, didn't think he had it in him to play like that at this level, i think he played better than Russell would have.

You know I had the same question mark running through my mind at the end. Horne played way above what I thought he could at 10, and I have doubts that Russell would've kept his composure throughout that match

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:00 pm

Also commiserations whocares and the rest of the French fans. It does look worryingly like French may have a decent side hiding in there somewhere and they look to be playing a more exciting breed of rugby at long last. Give them some time and I think they'll be back, but they sorely need a consistent 10

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Post by tigertattie Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:13 pm

Ok, I'm sticking my head above the parapet here. But........

Much is being said about hogg's flick pass, but my question is this: Had hogg just left the ball alone, would it have gone to visser anyway?
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Post by eirebilly Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:15 pm

Massive congrats to you Scottish fans, its been a rough few years but that was an excellent game and win. Really liking the direction that Cotter is bringing you.
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Post by bsando Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:16 pm

Cracking game! Also, hats off to the ref! He wasn't going to rush scrum decisions simply to make the game more entertaining, he took his time, gave the players the benefit of the doubt and only penalised when it was clear one team was in the wrong. In my opinion that is the way to ref the scrum. The game was still highly entertaining and no one is left feeling robbed at the end of the match, Scotland won it fair and square.

Big hats off to Horne, Hogg, Hardie, Taylor, Nel and Laidlaw. In fact the whole team really. They looked organised, except perhaps in defence, but thats easy to say sitting at home watching on TV.

I love how Scotland chip away, almost excruciatingly at times, but then when a break comes they skip gears and really put on the pressure. Its calculated and cool and best of all, its paying off on the scoreboard!!

Win away to Ireland would be a huge step forward, but winning today was certainly a good step forward in its own right.

Lets make it 3 from 3!!

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Post by VinceWLB Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:18 pm

tigertattie wrote:Ok, I'm sticking my head above the parapet here. But........

Much is being said about hogg's flick pass, but my question is this: Had hogg just left the ball alone, would it have gone to visser anyway?

I think so but it would have been a very bad pass at feet level which would have probably stopped the momentum of the action.

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Post by TJ Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:18 pm

tigertattie wrote:Ok, I'm sticking my head above the parapet here. But........

Much is being said about hogg's flick pass, but my question is this: Had hogg just left the ball alone, would it have gone to visser anyway?

I think so

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:19 pm

tigertattie wrote:Ok, I'm sticking my head above the parapet here. But........

Much is being said about hogg's flick pass, but my question is this: Had hogg just left the ball alone, would it have gone to visser anyway?

Nah the BBC showed after the game that it wouldn't of. It would have probably have gone near Vissers knees, wasting time, most likely him getting tackled before he could touch it down.

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Post by Engine#4 Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:23 pm

Congrats Scots, with a dry day next weekend could be a cracker.

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Post by Eejit Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:24 pm

tigertattie wrote:Ok, I'm sticking my head above the parapet here. But........

Much is being said about hogg's flick pass, but my question is this: Had hogg just left the ball alone, would it have gone to visser anyway?

Hogg's pass took in Spedding who would otherwise have tackled Visser out his boots by the look of it.

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Post by 123456789 Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:24 pm

I may well be wrong but I think that's the first time in 9 years that we've beaten anyone else other than Italy by more than 10 points in the six nations.


The best part of that performance is unlike when we've had big wins in the last 10-15 years when it's often involved luck or a mistake or brave defence this performance was a comprehensive victory, not a thrashing by any means, involving good defence and attack. If any other team in world rugby put that performance against France they'd be chuffed. We need to back it up now, a win in Ireland with a tour to Japan to come could give us some real momentum.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:27 pm

Taylor was simply phenomenal again. What options we have at centre these days
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Post by bsando Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:33 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Taylor was simply phenomenal again. What options we have at centre these days

and at fly-half in Horne, eh radge Very Happy Hug

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Post by bsando Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:36 pm

bsando wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Taylor was simply phenomenal again. What options we have at centre these days

and at fly-half in Horne, eh radge Very Happy Hug

Apologies Radge, that cheeky banter should of been for Tiger Tattie. Continue as you were

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:37 pm

bsando wrote:
RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Taylor was simply phenomenal again. What options we have at centre these days

and at fly-half in Horne, eh radge Very Happy Hug

I always rated Horne, you must have me confused with someone else thumbsup

It was Dunbar I wasn't sure about but he played well too. He was powerful in the contact area.
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Post by yappysnap Sun 13 Mar 2016, 5:57 pm

George Carlin wrote:
Cyril wrote:Scotland deserve this win, but my god France are bad.
So I guess you'll beat them like they owe you money next week then, Cyril? chin

I prefer to to think we'll beat them like a manservant who's forgotten his masters best pipe and jacket...

Well done Scotland, over all a good performance and as a neutral it's great to see you win.

Oh and thank you

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Post by RDW Sun 13 Mar 2016, 6:35 pm

Should we just give Dickinson and Nel the rest of the season off??

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Post by TJ Sun 13 Mar 2016, 6:54 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Should we just give Dickinson and Nel the rest of the season off??

Yahoo

Not until after we beat Ireland ;-)

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Post by carpet baboon Sun 13 Mar 2016, 7:50 pm

Nel is a beast. Please give him next week off. And Hogg if you don't mind. And Dickinson. In fact can you let your fringe pack play against us?
But cracking great game gents.

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Post by robbo277 Sun 13 Mar 2016, 8:12 pm

Thought Scotland played really nicely. Too much talk of the Championship now would be disrespectful and overshadow what was a very good Scotland win. I guess this one puts those early tournament, narrow losses in perspective, especially seeing how Wales and England have done against other sides.

Your game with Ireland should be a cracker. A confident Scotland vs an Ireland desperate to finish in the mid table and not drop from 1st to 5th in one season.

For France, I thought they looked very dangerous in patches but I don't think they're the finished article yet, not anywhere close. There should be more to come from them, and I expect to see them play with a bit of flair next week. But I just think their error count is too high and they're just not quite there. I'd be very surprised to see them beat England next week.

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Post by TJ Sun 13 Mar 2016, 8:26 pm

I have just realised - thats the first time Scotland have beaten anyone above us in the rankings for what - 3 years? We might even move up the rankings as a result - beat Ireland and we will move into the top 8

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