Marler to Face World Rugby Hearing

Gooseberry wrote:

yappysnap wrote:

I was just saying yesterday that Marler should be fined and then sent to some kind of group as community service. A match ban just doesn't seem right for this kind of incident.

Glad to see there has been a precedent set, probably won't be followed though. I'm expecting him to get a long ban to set an example.

Yeah maybe he could be sent to tarmac some driveways?

I diagree wholeheartedly with the "setting an example" notion.
The example should be that the appropriate level of punishment will be given related to the level of the offense. The first panel deemed that that was a stern finger wagging, if World Rugby determines is a 10 week ban and castration then that really doesnt make anyone look good.
It exagerattes the level of offence and makes it Marler look like Beshocked or Hitler, it makes world rugby look like a Student Union Coucil run by Jeremy Corbyn, and it makes the 6 nations panel look like absolute idiots. It'll also send the internet in even more fits of white middle class anger.

It is possible to accept that this was a pretty low level offence but that a minimal ban is still appropriate. Persoanly I dont have any great issue with the original decision, but its pretty clear that World Rugby dont beleive that adequate process was followed in making that decision and are seriously concerned that the rules werent applied in the way they were intended to be. If they find that is the cas ethen a ban is appropriate, but only a minimal one. 4 weeks is still significant, whether thats applied now (business end of the season) or in the summer (scuppering his chances of touring at all).

Th idea of hanging someone for being the first high profile case to be charged with a particular thing even if it is a borderline case isnt one Im on board with at all.

fa0019 wrote:every country has their own record of ill discipline., NZ, SA, Europe, Argentina etc no one is really standout.  I'd probably say the French were the worst where the eye gouge traditional meant something completely different compared to the rest of the world; for many years it was just efficient ruck clearing techniques to them.

I think what Laurie was suggesting is that no NZ prop would dare allow something such as name calling to go beyond their internal one on one battle and such things would be dealt with by themselves. Those of us old enough to have played during the amateur era are probably more prone to want to dealt with things in-house, that's the way we were taught the game.

I recall once after I spoke to the referee about some guy had put me in an armbar in a ruck and was close to breaking my arm. My captain literally gave me a slap and told me to deal with him myself and stop being such a cry baby.

Doesn't mean what Marler said was acceptable, just that how people react to it/deal with it is different depending on culture and generation.

Jimpy wrote:

Or he could be sent on a site clearance of a Gypsy site, I'd help. With a flamethrower.

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Jimpy wrote:Or he could be sent on a site clearance of a Gypsy site, I'd help. With a flamethrower.