Season 8 Homepage V

by prop_lyd Thu 26 May 2016, 7:37 am

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Season 8 Homepage V - Page 11 Aviva-Premiership-Trophy-e1306508139154

2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps

2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Sale Sharks	22	19	2	1	595	514	81	60	38	7	1	88
2	Harlequins	22	15	2	5	590	526	64	56	39	4	5	73
3	Northampton Saints **	22	16	2	4	571	514	57	49	35	3	3	72
4	Saracens	22	11	3	8	561	529	32	50	36	3	8	61
5	Newcastle Falcons	22	12	1	9	553	530	23	43	42	1	8	59
6	London Irish	22	11	0	11	547	561	-14	39	41	2	10	56
7	Worcester Warriors	22	9	2	11	536	554	-18	42	46	1	11	52
8	Gloucester *	22	10	0	12	534	550	-16	43	42	0	12	51
9	Bath Rugby	22	7	3	12	534	551	-17	42	48	0	12	46
10	Leicester Tigers	22	7	1	14	520	554	-34	31	44	0	13	43
11	Exeter Chiefs **	22	4	2	16	518	577	-59	35	50	0	14	32
12	London Wasps	22	2	0	20	479	578	-99	26	55	0	14	22

Links

Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage

Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (SJE) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1993.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.
Player Draft
Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will participate in a player draft beginning the week of June 22nd. Both sides will be allowed to draft two players each. The draft picks will go as follows; 1. Worcester 2. Wasps 3. Wasps 4. Worcester.

Round Bidding
There will be two rounds of bidding. The first window will run the week starting June 29th and the second the week starting July 3rd. All sides will be allowed to sign one player each during the window. These bids are not protected if you do not have the funds in place to bid during the window you will lose the bid.

Open Bidding
From July 13th the foreign market will be open to all bids similar to previous seasons. Due to the world cup the window will remain open till the end of September.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. 2m for 5 games, 1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (SJE) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by Fluxy Fri 01 Jul 2016, 3:10 pm

prop_lyd wrote:
Fluxy wrote:As much as he warrants a shot and I would like him to get one, I can't see Lowe getting a go with: Naholo, B Smith, Dagg, McKenzie and Savea in the set up at the minute.
And NMS to come back!!

He is a given, although not sure when he returns, he was out for the whole of the super rugby season!

by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Jul 2016, 3:50 pm

Good analysis on the Aussies engine room issues and how we targeted them:

http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/06/29/how-did-the-wallaby-changes-work-out-second-row-sausage-sizzle-at-sydney/

by Fluxy Fri 01 Jul 2016, 3:56 pm

Was a good read. Skelton could be a nailed on starter, if he develops in the same trajectory as Billy V. For me their best second rows are Horwill, Mumm, Skelton and Douglas. Douglas was class during the RWC. Simmons just is their Borthwick. Coleman looks handy, just needs to learn to make the right decision at the right time.

by Fluxy Fri 01 Jul 2016, 4:05 pm

I will add that I;m not saying that because they are my players! I think, like most, we would like to see a solid aus pack as their backs with a good platform can beat virtually anyone.

by ChequeredJersey Fri 01 Jul 2016, 6:25 pm

Hectic week. Have I missed anything?

by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Jul 2016, 6:48 pm

Nothing mate.

Hopefully starting a summer comp next week.

by Guest Fri 01 Jul 2016, 7:35 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Good analysis on the Aussies engine room issues and how we targeted them:

http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/06/29/how-did-the-wallaby-changes-work-out-second-row-sausage-sizzle-at-sydney/

Great article

The part re Skelton is so Accurate

"The sequence as a whole is a perfect illustration of Jekyll and Hyde nature of Will Skelton’s selection. He can be a dominant physical force in contact when the play is funnelled towards him in the middle of the field.

On the flip side of the coin, he runs the fewest metres of any of the Australian tight five to get into position on defence, which in turn means that the forwards with greater aerobic capacity (Rob Simmons, James Slipper and Stephen Moore) have to do that running for him, often without achieving the satisfaction of a meaningful involvement at the end of it.

The lack of physical conditioning also is also reflected in his mental fitness. He is pushed around the corner by Hooper without appearing to have the energy to make his own decision about where he should defend."

Skelton has huge talent but he is 24.
He seems unable to reach the level of fitness required.

I played against both vunipolas when they were kids ( don't think the one of them was even legal age to play senior rugby) when their dad coached bristol Saracens and they were fat kids but powerful. Billy when he started at wasps was unfit but improved year on year fitness wise as did mako. Skelton has not improved fitness wise at all.
Maybe gone backwards.

Maybe he is like Big Ben tamifiena in that he will never get fit enough. Skelton leaves holes and gets targeted on kick offs etc and it negates any positive he brings.

You would think having professional coaches etc getting fitness
In to him would be easy. What does he do in the day ??
They all train together and he is a pro player I can't understand how he can't get fit.

Must be genetic ??

Agree with Simmons as Aussie Borthwick. Offers nowt bar lineout.

I like carter. Coleman looked OK also. Engine room a weakeness for them full stop

by Guest Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:57 am

Don't agree with it but worth a read

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/07/01/lions-squad-to-new-zealand---who-is-on-the-plane-on-current-form/jack-nowell/

Where is Hogg, Watson etc also think charteris will go. So many bolters in lions year

by Fluxy Sat 02 Jul 2016, 8:33 am

Did you not see the other slides with Hogg and Watson on mate? Rolling Eyes

by Guest Sat 02 Jul 2016, 9:26 am

Fluxy wrote:Did you not see the other slides with Hogg and Watson on mate?

Was using a phone fluxy. It comes through weird on it
And an ad every 4 players so clicking
To get rid of them may have seen me click through those
Players

by Fluxy Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:30 pm

I'm practically always on my phone, works just fine!

by Fluxy Sat 02 Jul 2016, 1:58 pm

I'm practically always on my phone, works just fine!

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 02 Jul 2016, 2:24 pm

I stopped reading at Mike Ross.

by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jul 2016, 2:39 pm

Has anyone heard from SJE?

by Guest Sat 02 Jul 2016, 3:34 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I stopped reading at Mike Ross.

Ha ha very true, can't take Ross on a lions tour.

by Fluxy Sun 03 Jul 2016, 11:59 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:Has anyone heard from SJE?

Not in a while

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 03 Jul 2016, 12:20 pm

I think he's on holiday

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Jul 2016, 12:58 pm

Not done this for a while, your EQ team. Good pack, goes to pot a bit at 10 and the back 3.

1. Waller
2. Paice
3. Cole/Hill
4. Slater
5. Parling
6. Haskell
7. Fraser/Underhill
8. Hughes

9. Dickson
10. Sharp
11. Armitage
12. Devoto
13. Trinder
14. Earle
15. Morris

by BamBam Tue 05 Jul 2016, 1:04 pm

1. Mullan
2. George
3. Eeerrrr .. Hills?
4. Symons
5. Hill
6. Clark
7. Evans
8. Ewers
9. Chudley
10. Farrell
11. Sharples
12. Stephenson
13. ???
14. Strettle
15. Miller

Weak at 3, 5, 13, rest not terrible

by Fluxy Tue 05 Jul 2016, 1:56 pm

I;ve got enough EQ hookers to field a pack I'm sure!

1. Lundberg/H Williams
2. T Youngs
3. Sinckler
4. Lawes
5. G Young
6. Harrison
7. Sam Skinner
8. ?
9. Cook
10. Flood
11. Elliott
12. Sloan
13. James
14. Ashton
15. Losowski

Spots of strength, and some glaring weaknesses

by dammit_chris Tue 05 Jul 2016, 3:01 pm

1. Mako
2. Hartley
3. Jake Cooper Wooley
4. Joe Launchbury
5. Michael Paterson
6. Sam Jones
7. Luke Wallace
8. Billy Vunipola
9. Joe Simpson
10. George Ford
11. Ben Foden
12. Harry Mallinder
13. Manu Tuilagi
14. Erm....Dave Ward
15. Elliot Daly

by Fluxy Tue 05 Jul 2016, 3:05 pm

You'd have better luck at putting Ward at 7 and wallace on the wing!

by Fluxy Tue 05 Jul 2016, 3:09 pm

My under 25 side is better

1. Poirot
2. Buchanan
3. Sinckler/Tameifuna
4. Ball
5.
6. Shields
7. Coetzee
8. Harrison

9. Hidalgo-Clyne
10. Losowski
11.
12. McCloskey
13. James
14. Elliott
15. Lowe

by BamBam Tue 05 Jul 2016, 3:25 pm

Hmm

1. Hepburn
2. George
3. Koch
4. Petti
5. De Jager
6. Matera
7. Evans
8. Ewers
9. Tahuriorangi
10. Farrell
11. Kibirige
12. Stephenson
13. Serfontein
14. Aso
15. Piutau

by BamBam Tue 05 Jul 2016, 3:26 pm

God we must be bored

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Jul 2016, 4:10 pm

Good side Chris, some options. Possibly the biggest centre combo in the game.

by Driver Tue 05 Jul 2016, 4:54 pm

My EQ side is a mess in some positions whilst others it's got a lot of depth.

1.Joe Marler
2.Harry Thacker
3.Dave Wilson
4.Andrew Kitchener
5.Dom Barrow
6.Tom Wood
7.Will Own
8.Hayden Thomas Stringer

9.Will Homer
10.Henry Slade
11.Marlande Yarde
12.Brad Barritt
13.Luther Burrell
14.Tom Fowlie
15.Anthony Watson

by dammit_chris Tue 05 Jul 2016, 7:05 pm

Yeah Pooly you don't realise how big Mallinder is, be interesting to see how he develops this year at Saints. Jones mentioned he's seen 2-3 of the u20 squad he wants to see in the AIs but surely just talk from him to encourage them to develop further?!

by prop_lyd Tue 05 Jul 2016, 9:19 pm

Eq
1. Val Ruskin
2. Ross Batty
3. Henry Thomas
4. Huw Taylor
5. Kieran Tredwell
6. Mike Williams
7. Jackson Wray
8. Ben Morgan
9. Sam Harrison
10. Sam Olver
11. James Short
12. Johnny Williams
13. Max Stelling
14. Adam Thompstone
15. Mathew Tait

16. Jack Walker 17. Biyi Alo 18. Will Collier 19. Tom Savage 20. Ben Earl 21. Harry Randall 22. Alex Mitchell 23. Alex Moon

Travelling replacement-Billy Keast

Not too bad, need my academy to kick on.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 05 Jul 2016, 9:26 pm

Another good EQ pack.

Mallinder is a unit, way too big for 10. I imagine he'll be in the England set-up very soon though, very talented.

by dammit_chris Tue 05 Jul 2016, 9:45 pm

Can see him making a very good no12, thing I like about him is that he's not afraid to put himself about and is quite aggressive that way.

Be interested to see how many of the u20 team break through into the AP - I liked the look of the hooker who was captain (Walker) before he was injured who signed for Bath, looks a real talent.

by Steven_Sharks Tue 05 Jul 2016, 9:54 pm

Eq

1. Ethan Waller
2. Rob Webber
3. Kieran Brookes
4. Nick Easter
5. George Kruis
6. Jamie Gibson
7. Steffon Armitage
8. Jack Clifford
9. Ben Youngs
10. Steven Myler
11. Jack Nowell
12. Max Clark
13. Jonathan Joseph
14. Alex Lewington
15. Mike Haley

by Guest Tue 05 Jul 2016, 10:04 pm

Amazingly loed picks Bulls http://www.planetrugby.com/news/bulls-win-race-for-de-jager/

Was nailed on for lions so a real surprise

by Fluxy Tue 05 Jul 2016, 11:33 pm

He wanted more money, surprised he didn't go for the lions how well they have been playing recently.

by Fluxy Wed 06 Jul 2016, 8:34 pm

Don't forget to get teamsheets in lads. I presume Predo bonuses would be the same as last year so make an effort!

by LukeLovesLuka Wed 06 Jul 2016, 9:37 pm

Sorry guys but think it's time for me to go. Taken Leicester to Prem and Euro winners but lost my way. Need some fresh impetuous. Been fun Hug

by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Jul 2016, 4:03 am

That's a shame Luke

by Fluxy Thu 07 Jul 2016, 10:47 am

Sad to see you go Luke, been a great servant and my first season or so was during your sides 'golden' period! Stick around for the chat won't you mate?
Ale

So who fancies the Tigers hot seat?

by dammit_chris Thu 07 Jul 2016, 11:57 am

Sorry to hear you are going Luke.

All these guys are available for deals.

HK Dave Ward (England)
PR Wyatt Crockett (New Zealand) (1)
PR Adam Jones (Wales) (3)
PR Logi Mulipola (Samoa) (1)/(3)
LK/BS/N8 Samu Manoa (USA)
LK/OS/BS Jacques du Plessis (South Africa)
LK/BS Michael Paterson (England)
LK Paul Jedrasiak (France)
OS Jack Lamb (Samoa)
N8/BS/OS Sam Jones (England - Saxons)
OS Luke Wallace (England)
SH Cobus Reinach (South Africa)
FH Rhys Priestland (Wales)
CE/FH Matt Giteau (Australia)
CE Alex Dunbar (Scotland)
WG Frank Halai (New Zealand)
FH/CE/FB James Hook (Wales)
BR Callum Chick (England) - (dob needed, England u20s)
LK Cameron Lawes (England) (dob needed)
BR Brad Wilkin (Australia) - born in 1995 can't find dob.

by BamBam Thu 07 Jul 2016, 12:42 pm

Prem fixtures out

http://www.premiershiprugby.com/matchcentre/fixtures?utm_source=emailmarketing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=201617_fixture_release&utm_content=2016-07-07_1232#r0WhFbxsPRgYQ7D5.97

by Fluxy Thu 07 Jul 2016, 12:45 pm

BamBam wrote:Prem fixtures out

http://www.premiershiprugby.com/matchcentre/fixtures?utm_source=emailmarketing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=201617_fixture_release&utm_content=2016-07-07_1232#r0WhFbxsPRgYQ7D5.9

Saw that, I forgot I mentioned it to Pooly. Will try and knock up a fixture page at some point so that we don't fall behind

by ChequeredJersey Fri 08 Jul 2016, 6:58 am

When are foreigns?

by Fluxy Fri 08 Jul 2016, 9:31 am

I don't want to say, in case I contradict anything that SJE will say. We are in the period where it is usually open.

by Guest Fri 08 Jul 2016, 11:15 pm

This is disgraceful http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/07/07/blow-to-lions-tour-preparations-in-new-zealand-as-aviva-premiers/

As
Someone who is going on the tour I would say we need all the help we can get.

Last time to NZ was
A disaster/

Booked a camper and flights out next week. Not confident we will do owt but lions tours are best thing you will ever do

by Guest Fri 08 Jul 2016, 11:16 pm

Fluxy wrote:I don't want to say, in case I contradict anything that SJE will say. We are in the period where it is usually open.

All decided by SJE.

Pooly said he is on holiday so imagine they happen when he is back.

Sje prob needed the break as its admin heavy running this

by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Jul 2016, 11:40 pm

Pretty sure he said he was away. He does most of the stuff at work so he'll be back at some point.

It's hard setting things up and you need to be around for foreigns etc. In Bosnia at min and net is sparse so appologies for lack of involvement.

by Fluxy Sat 09 Jul 2016, 10:16 am

anonmattyt wrote:
Fluxy wrote:I don't want to say, in case I contradict anything that SJE will say. We are in the period where it is usually open.

All decided by SJE.

Pooly said he is on holiday so imagine they happen when he is back.

Sje prob needed the break as its admin heavy running this

Instead of making a point that didn't need to be made, you could've put a side into the summer tournament... Whistle

by Fluxy Sat 09 Jul 2016, 11:06 am

Crusaders absolutely ruined the Rebels this morning Shocked

by Guest Sat 09 Jul 2016, 2:03 pm

Fluxy wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:
Fluxy wrote:I don't want to say, in case I contradict anything that SJE will say. We are in the period where it is usually open.

All decided by SJE.

Pooly said he is on holiday so imagine they happen when he is back.

Sje prob needed the break as its admin heavy running this

Instead of making a point that didn't need to be made, you could've put a side into the summer tournament...

Miaow.

I have zero interest in the summer tournament so will not stick a team in.

by Driver Sat 09 Jul 2016, 3:03 pm

Could of just said ''I'm busy so won't have time for the summer tournament''

Instead of sounding like bell end when Flux/Pooly put time and effort into it.

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