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Post by GSC Mon 27 Jun 2016, 8:18 pm

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Thats an awful pass from Kane
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Post by monty junior Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:03 pm

This is what happens when you show no respect to worthy opponents. It's the same time and again, just end with egg on faces no matter what the score.

I remember the famous "no german would get in our team" before the humping in 2010. Just wish they would show some respect, it's not the fans it's the media.

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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:08 pm

Also, why the feck is Kane taking free kicks?

Surely we want him in the box, poaching goals? Whats wrong with Rooney doing them?
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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:09 pm

WHaT the FECK is Kane doing still taking free kicks!!! Rooney or Roy you useless twits have a word and tell him "your Poopie get away from the ball"! Get Sterling off now too! Utter crap!

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:09 pm

Great pass Rooney you turnip!

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:09 pm

Rooney in midfield is terrible, can't even pass tonight

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:10 pm

It's embarrassing this! Just look at our players there, back to goal..no one bar Wilshire showing for the ball, not even moving to find space, just stood still!

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:10 pm

The Icelandic captain (Aron Gunnarsson) plays for championship league team Cardiff City.  Should England consider players in the championship if there is not enough players to choose from in the premiership?


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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:10 pm

It's embarrassing this! Just look at our players there, back to goal..no one bar Wilshire showing for the ball, not even moving to find space, just stood still!

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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:12 pm

monty junior wrote:This is what happens when you show no respect to worthy opponents. It's the same time and again,  just end with egg on faces no matter what the score.

I remember the famous "no german would get in our team" before the humping in 2010. Just wish they would show some respect, it's not the fans it's the media.

I don't think its a case of not showing respect...we're just rubbish.

We weren't convincing in the group stages and we're no better now (worse, in fact). We just don't have any players that can cope with knockout tournament football, it seems.
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Post by Hero Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:13 pm

Even when the ball is straight at Hart it's worrying.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:13 pm

Could have been 3 after more poor defence.

Thank flip the ball was smacked straight at Hart - not a 'great save', Glenn!

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:13 pm

As poor as the players have been...Roy deserves to go because the simple fact is he was the one who picked them and in the case of both Kane and Sterling there was no desire to see either in this game! And to boot he dropped one of our best players to do so in Lallana!

10 mins into second half and best chance has been not for the team losing but those ahead!

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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:15 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:It's embarrassing this! Just look at our players there, back to goal..no one bar Wilshire showing for the ball, not even moving to find space, just stood still!

Thats what I meant with my earlier "lazy / pedestrian" comments.

When you watch the best teams, the guy with the ball moves decisively and his team mates move to support him. Good slick pass-and-move football.

With England, a player gets the ball, he stands still for 3-4 seconds before deciding what to do with it and the other players just stand where they are, waiting for a pass.

It makes you cringe!
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Post by monty junior Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:16 pm

dyrewolfe wrote:
monty junior wrote:This is what happens when you show no respect to worthy opponents. It's the same time and again,  just end with egg on faces no matter what the score.

I remember the famous "no german would get in our team" before the humping in 2010. Just wish they would show some respect, it's not the fans it's the media.

I don't think its a case of not showing respect...we're just rubbish.

We weren't convincing in the group stages and we're no better now (worse, in fact). We just don't have any players that can cope with knockout tournament football, it seems.

It was just the likes of Linekar and Ferdinand laughing off Iceland as a threat. Saying they had no chance etc..!

Yet they had one of the easiest groups in history and couldn't win it.

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Post by nadeem2099 Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:16 pm

We need a Toni Kroos in our team.
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Post by Duty281 Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:17 pm

Raheem off 14 minutes too late. Vardy on.

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:18 pm

Rooney another poor touch. Him and Kane have been absolutely terrible tonight!

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:18 pm

Same problem England always have at tournaments : they are playing with fear.
Iceland are enjoying themselves.

England have another fifteen minutes to get back into this - after that panic will do for them and they'll need a miracle.

Hope Vardy can make a difference.

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Post by Nico the gman Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:19 pm

We are awful, Rooney's midfield role must include don't break into a sweat, strolls round the pitch like a practise match.

Our defence has been an accident waiting to happen and Hart goes down in instalments,he's had a mare of a tournament.

Hodgson continually keeps getting team selection wrong, Sterling and Kane have been garbage since game one, but here they are again, typical stubborn coach trying to prove all the critics wrong.

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:20 pm

Anyone still prepared to defend Rooney after this showing...what was that pass!

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Post by Duty281 Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:20 pm

The penalty aside, Rooney has been dreadful tonight. I appreciate there's little movement, but he's messing up the short passes constantly.

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Post by Hero Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:21 pm

nadeem2099 wrote:We need a Toni Kroos in our team.

And a Manuel Neuer, Jerome Boateng, Joshua Kimmich, Julian Draxler, Mats Hummels, Jonas Hector, Mezut Ozil, Thomas Muller, Mario Gomez and Sami Khedira.

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:22 pm

Game was crying out for Ross...Wilshire just added another body in the midfield, he's great when you want to control a game and keep possession but he poses very little direct attacking threat which is what we needed.

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:23 pm

Apparently Rooney and Sturridge are Englands best players by a large margin, with Kane the next best, according to the BBC 5 live commentary team.


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Post by Hero Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:23 pm

That pretty much sums up Kane at the tournament.

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:23 pm

And Kane deserves all the criticism he gets for simply being thick enough to stand and continue taking set pieces! Stupidity at the highest level.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:23 pm

What a shot, Harry Kane.

I think some of the England fans are whistling now.

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:24 pm

You must be joking. Rooney has been dire, beyond dire. He has been exposed in CM, as we knew he would. Kane need to go home

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:24 pm

If anyone believes Rooney has played well tonight they should never be allowed to watch a football match again or indeed have an opinion on one!

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Post by Hero Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:25 pm

LiamB wrote:You must be joking. Rooney has been dire, beyond dire. He has been exposed in CM, as we knew he would. Kane need to go home

In just over 20 minutes he will be.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:25 pm

Rashford on now!!!

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Post by GSC Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:25 pm

Well this is depressing
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Post by Crimey Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:25 pm

I don't watch many Tottenham games, but based on England I don't know how Kane has been so lauded. He's been probably the worst England player this tournament.

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:26 pm

owen10ozzy wrote:If anyone believes Rooney has played well tonight they should never be allowed to watch a football match again or indeed have an opinion on one!
It was a relative term - they said Rooney and Sturridge were England's best players.

Now the commentary team are saying Rooney is spent, with no energy.


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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:26 pm

Nico the gman wrote:We are awful, Rooney's midfield role must include don't break into a sweat, strolls round the pitch like a practise match.

Our defence has been an accident waiting to happen and Hart goes down in instalments,he's had a mare of a tournament.

Hodgson continually keeps getting team selection wrong, Sterling and Kane have been garbage since game one, but here they are again, typical stubborn coach trying to prove all the critics wrong.


Well, at least Hodgson will be gone after this tournament.

Don't think Hart or Rooney should ever play again. Hart is just too prone to errors and Rooney has looked past his best for some time now.

Same old problem remains though...where are we going to find a manager who can make our players click at international level?
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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:27 pm

Say what you want about him...at least Steve McClaren didn't have the audacity to take an England team to a finals and leave us witness this type of shambles. Very Happy


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Post by nadeem2099 Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:27 pm

Hero wrote:
nadeem2099 wrote:We need a Toni Kroos in our team.

And a Manuel Neuer, Jerome Boateng, Joshua Kimmich, Julian Draxler, Mats Hummels, Jonas Hector, Mezut Ozil, Thomas Muller, Mario Gomez and Sami Khedira.
Woy probably wouldn't pick any of them Laugh
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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:27 pm

First England game I've watched since the world cup.

Looks like nothing has changed.

We look rubbish:technically incompetent, no imagination, usual guff.

How the hell has Hodgson stayed in the job for so long?

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Post by GSC Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:27 pm

Have any England players considered taking some power off the ball.
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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:28 pm

Wayne has gone

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Post by alfie Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:28 pm

Doesn't look as if anyone is going to get a true shot at goal tonight.

Might as well bomb it into the box and hope for a mistake from the Iceland defenders.

Vardy nearly in then ...

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Post by Duty281 Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:28 pm

Rooney has been utterly abysmal. A toss up between him and Kane as to who has been worse.

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:29 pm

Get Kane off the pitch now!!! Absolute waste of space!

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:29 pm

Bet Roy comes out with how we dominated the game, controlled possession etc! Fail to mention that we troubled their keeper...ONCE!

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:31 pm

Walker is terrible, as I've always said

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:31 pm

Walker great ball again! Rooney once more stood still....I've seen statues move more than him. Reason he plays in midfield is simple..his legs have completely gone.

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:31 pm

dyrewolfe wrote:
Nico the gman wrote:We are awful, Rooney's midfield role must include don't break into a sweat, strolls round the pitch like a practise match.

Our defence has been an accident waiting to happen and Hart goes down in instalments,he's had a mare of a tournament.

Hodgson continually keeps getting team selection wrong, Sterling and Kane have been garbage since game one, but here they are again, typical stubborn coach trying to prove all the critics wrong.


Well, at least Hodgson will be gone after this tournament.

Don't think Hart or Rooney should ever play again. Hart is just too prone to errors and Rooney has looked past his best for some time now.

Same old problem remains though...where are we going to find a manager who can make our players click at international level?

Short answer: never

Because our players are Poopie - we haven't had any good players since about 2004

Funny how every tournament people blame everything: the manager, the team selection, the weather, the tactics and on and on, except the glaringly obvious - we are a Poopie team 'cause our players are Poopie. Simple.

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Post by owen10ozzy Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:32 pm

Kane didn't even challenge keeper then..awful ball from Sturridge.

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Post by Guest Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:33 pm

Roy's head in hands because he's losing his £3.5m tomorrow morning

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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 27 Jun 2016, 9:33 pm

GSC wrote:Have any England players considered taking some power off the ball.


It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic. Lost count of the crosses, free kicks and long balls that have sailed into empty space or out of play.

Its like watching a pub team (although I suspect a few pub teams might put up a better showing).


This has to be a new nadir for England, getting dumped out of a competition by Iceland (population roughly the same as Leicester, apparently and with no previous track record in tournaments).

Its one thing getting knocked out of tournaments by the likes of France, Germany or Italy...but bloody Iceland? I can't believe I have lived to witness this day. Sad


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