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Post by Fluxy Sat 13 Aug 2016, 2:13 pm

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Breaking News: Newcastle Falcons continue to chase down leaders Sale Sharks, whilst Wasps defeat Tigers to climb away from the relegation battle.



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2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           
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12Season 9 Homepage - Page 6 1Bath Rugby***132011304342-38283801015

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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Fluxy) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (Fluxy) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1994. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made by sending a PM to the RFU (Fluxy) and it will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Round Bidding 

    Open Bidding


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. £2m for 5 games, £1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: £8m
Runners Up: £6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: £5m
5th: £4m
6th: £3.5m
7th: £3m
8th: £2.5m
9th: £2m
10th: £1.5m
11th: £1m
12th: £0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (Fluxy) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:40 pm

Interesting stats from Wasps game......Daly missed 7 tackles!

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 7:53 pm

anonmattyt wrote:chris how do you think wasps will fare when the weather turns
And it gets boggy?

Think the front 5 will struggle
Personally.

Saints had the upper hand scrum wise with Brooke's all over mullan. Taylor is good round park but has been iffy in scrum
And lineout. watched
Most wasps games as they have been on tv quite a bit.

Need launch bury and Haskell fit if they are to challenge for silverware.


We will struggle. I don't think our pack is suited to bad weather as front five can be got at - JCW has made a big improvement to previous TH's but we can be got at and Hughes gets us out of a lot of trouble when our scrum goes backwards, but we haven't got a great tight game.

Backline in bad weather could struggle, but at the same time we have some good kicking options in Simpson, Cirpiani and Daly who can get us out of trouble but seriously lack ball carriers apart from Halai who doesnt get involved enough for me.

Can just hope for good weather for the rest of the season!

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Post by Fluxy Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:09 pm

Well we are expecting an Indian summer in October Chris!

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Post by Guest Thu 29 Sep 2016, 7:21 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Interesting stats from Wasps game......Daly missed 7 tackles!

Tackle stats in rugby are so misleading.

Daly was great on Saturday and named in most teams of the week. They make no allowance for kick chasers or if someone shoots out of the line to pressure. Also the way they are collected is shaky.

Most Coaches would rather trust there own eyes

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 29 Sep 2016, 8:27 am

Any stat can be dismissed. Tackling is one of those that needs some context I guess. When you're up close to 10 a game though, there's obviously something not quite right.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Sep 2016, 10:08 am

If there was something not quite right then I am sure Daly wouldn't be leading the Wasps defensive line and they wouldn't have one of the best defences in the league lol.

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Post by BamBam Thu 29 Sep 2016, 10:10 am

Yaaawwwwnnnnnn

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 29 Sep 2016, 10:14 am

That wasn't aimed at Daly, more in general, it's common knowledge Daly isn't amazing defensively.

If a player is missing tackles almost into the double figure, he obviously needs to address something in his game, that's in any position really.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 29 Sep 2016, 10:32 am

BamBam wrote:Yaaawwwwnnnnnn

Yep, agree.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 29 Sep 2016, 10:36 am

Me too....

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 30 Sep 2016, 10:31 am

http://www.englandrugby.com/news/jones-names-elite-player-squad-ahead-autumn-series/

And training squad named.

Robson, Devoto, Hughes, Williams, Jones, Marchant, Loweski, Morgan seem the big changes.

Sounds like Williams at 7.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 30 Sep 2016, 10:33 am

Ewels and Evans as well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 30 Sep 2016, 10:34 am

In the EPS but not the training squad it seems, more for the future I guess.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 30 Sep 2016, 10:43 am

Good to see Marchant getting a chance Very Happy

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Post by Guest Fri 30 Sep 2016, 11:03 am

Williams and Marchant been great this year and deserve it. Lozowski not there on merit for me. Good ball in hand but his kicking not there yet for me.

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Post by BamBam Fri 30 Sep 2016, 11:06 am

I thought Marchant had struggled a bit in the games I've seen, but a good talent

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 30 Sep 2016, 11:14 am

I imagine it's more just to get them involved and give them things to work on. Similar with players like LCD etc over the years, they're not realistic starters end of the day.

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Post by Guest Fri 30 Sep 2016, 11:18 am

Probably right pooly. If so something to be encouraged. NZ have done that for years

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 30 Sep 2016, 12:05 pm

What has Kieran Brookes done to Eddie Jones?

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Post by Fluxy Fri 30 Sep 2016, 12:13 pm

The same thing Matt Kvesic has done, perhaps?

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 30 Sep 2016, 12:47 pm

Reckon that means we will see a backrow of Robshaw, Williams and Vunipola with Hughes to make a big impact from the bench. Williams seems as close to a like for like replacement to Haskell.

Hope Robson gets the bench spot.

Brookes, Kvesvic and Cips all pretty big omissions, but Jones certainly keeps his players on their toes!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 30 Sep 2016, 12:51 pm

I think you could have nailed that Chris.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 30 Sep 2016, 1:14 pm

Wonder if we will see Launch and Itoje as second row combination.

Big game for Newcastle this weekend, keep an eye on Christian Scotland-Williamson who is on the Worcester bench, he's like a younger version of Lawes with his tackling!

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Post by Fluxy Fri 30 Sep 2016, 1:47 pm

mo1

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Post by Guest Fri 30 Sep 2016, 2:04 pm

Fluxy wrote:The same thing Matt Kvesic has done, perhaps?

As a Glos fan I rate kvesic but would say that his penalty count is far too high too high.

He puts us über pressure often due to not knowing when to not attack the ball.

Good player but maybe that yard short of Int level.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Oct 2016, 5:21 pm

What a truly dire game that was..

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sat 01 Oct 2016, 10:28 pm

BamBam wrote:I thought Marchant had struggled a bit in the games I've seen, but a good talent 


Struggled in defence but been Quins' best attacker in the games he played
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Post by Guest Sun 02 Oct 2016, 2:13 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/10/01/gloucester-6-bath-15-anthony-watson-and-matt-banahan-tries-settl/

Great article by jamer re Glos. He is a fan like me and talks great sense for a Welshman !

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Oct 2016, 4:09 pm

Wuss scrum obliterating Falcons. Ruskin and schonert are tidy they had Saracens in trouble at scrum also.

Maybe best unit in Prem.

Glos have most successful scrum in Ap if you go by stats. Watching us I would massively disagree. We are better but no world beaters
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Oct 2016, 4:15 pm

Scrum stats are based on completion, not being the most dominant. We are constantly one of the best but often struggle in reality. Another awful game this weekend

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Oct 2016, 4:38 pm

Having been to watch Glos vs Bath and then Falcons vs Worcester then I have watched some awful games.
The skill levels in the Glos game so poor.

Moriarty excellent again for us and laidlaw had the rarest off day with the boot.
Usually never misses.

Fotuali was excellent and makes bath tick

Rokadunguni has improved. He used to be awful under
The high ball and now is decent.
He chases well also. Eddie Jones told him he has to work on defence and work rate and he has improved:

Still shaky in defence tackle wise. Hares in and leaves space and still not great when kicked in behind.

Banahan started season well and was great yesterday.

Bath for all their money have an average pack. Thomas not progressed at all and got owned by mccalister who is poor. He got pinged at least 4 times at scrum.

Auterac has not kicked on either and is a super talent.


Louw hugely missed by them. Also heard they are to sign tapuai.

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Oct 2016, 4:40 pm

Watching the rc and the standard is excellent.

Off to Australia vs Argentina at HQ next week. Anyone else going ? Booked tickets ages ago and looking forward to it. Watched them play in the semi there in wc and it was maybe game of tournament

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Oct 2016, 5:34 pm

I thought Moriarty did ok, Morgan and Galaza played well for you, not much else. Auterac came on from the bench and did ok, I thought Bath had the upper hand in the scrum for most of the game.

2 awful games this weekend, we were terrible. Had stacks of territory but never looked like scoring, our halfbacks are really holding us back.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 03 Oct 2016, 11:44 am

sorry for no predos this week boys, was in Oktoberfest from Thursday and only back today.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Oct 2016, 12:05 pm

No bother mate, was a good turnout.

How was it?

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Post by Guest Mon 03 Oct 2016, 12:10 pm

Did you do
Munich or Stuttgart nick?

Done both and preferred the Munich one

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Post by stnick88 Mon 03 Oct 2016, 12:19 pm

Munich. it was amazing, best Stag Doo I have been on by far.

Definitely going again.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 03 Oct 2016, 3:20 pm

Table up to date OK

This weeks thread is also up: https://www.606v2.com/t64122-aviva-premiership-round-6

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Oct 2016, 6:30 pm

Random team of the week:

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12321/10604385/team-of-the-week-facundo-isa-and-george-north-star

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Oct 2016, 9:18 pm

Just watching Wasps game, they look.in great form. Scrum struggled but very strong outside of that. Daly, Robson and Wade very impressive, think Hughes got about 4/5 turnovers.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 03 Oct 2016, 9:25 pm

If you're watching it, surely you'd be more accurate than 'about 4/5 turnovers' Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 04 Oct 2016, 4:13 am

Haha, lost count after first 10 mins and watching on my phone. Really good game though, Quins not actually that bad.

Can't find turnover stat but Hughes did make 17 tackles, that's some increase in workload.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 04 Oct 2016, 9:55 am

Telegraph Team of the Week

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/10/03/premiership-review-including-team-try-hero-and-villain-of-the-we/

Mako
Ashley Johnson
Brookes
Kruis
Lawes
Dowson
Sam Jones
Picamoles
Spencer
Cipriani
North
Daly
Betham
Paolo Odogwu
Rob Miller

Getting used to seeing all these Wasps players making the team. Averaging 36 points a game in the first 5 games, should be a great game v Sarries this weekend.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 04 Oct 2016, 10:13 am

Dowson!?!? He was terrible against us. Wilson and Welch were better and they were hardly great. That's a bizarre inclusion

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Post by BamBam Tue 04 Oct 2016, 10:22 am

Chris, any thoughts on Rob Miller?

Reckon he could be worth a go at FB in this league with Piutau/Ben Smith on the wings?

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Post by Fluxy Tue 04 Oct 2016, 10:23 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Haha, lost count after first 10 mins and watching on my phone. Really good game though, Quins not actually that bad.

Can't find turnover stat but Hughes did make 17 tackles, that's some increase in workload.

Here you are Pooly, you may have stretched the 'turnovers in the first 10 minutes Wink

'With the ball in hand he made 66 metres – including two clean breaks and beating two defenders – while on the defensive end he made 17 tackles and won four turnovers.'
Read more at http://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/mike-brown-george-kruis-nathan-hughes-and-mariano-galarza-lead-the-opta-rankings/#Jyzx6QOIBzLwFtgc.99

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 04 Oct 2016, 10:55 am

Bam, Miller has been in great form this season and very good last year as well. Think it's a shame for him that we've signed WLR as game time could get a little limited after that unless we move him onto the wings.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 04 Oct 2016, 10:57 am

Fair few papers gave Dowson a good write up, think Telegraph are best paper for rugby.

Intrigued with how Odogwu develops at Sale, he was meant to be a great prospect at Tigers but they released him as didn't see him getting game time.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 04 Oct 2016, 11:04 am

Fluxy wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:Haha, lost count after first 10 mins and watching on my phone. Really good game though, Quins not actually that bad.

Can't find turnover stat but Hughes did make 17 tackles, that's some increase in workload.

Here you are Pooly, you may have stretched the 'turnovers in the first 10 minutes Wink

'With the ball in hand he made 66 metres – including two clean breaks and beating two defenders – while on the defensive end he made 17 tackles and won four turnovers.'
Read more at http://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/mike-brown-george-kruis-nathan-hughes-and-mariano-galarza-lead-the-opta-rankings/#Jyzx6QOIBzLwFtgc.99

Good guess!

I said I lost count after the first 10min (think he had 2 or 3) and I couldn't quite see if it was him getting them on the small screen. 4 turnovers, 17 tackles and 66m is some effort though!

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Post by Fluxy Tue 04 Oct 2016, 11:05 am

Yeah not saying it wasn't!

I saw Galarza made 24 tackles or something daft like that  Shocked

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