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Post by Fluxy Sat 13 Aug 2016, 2:13 pm

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Breaking News: Newcastle Falcons continue to chase down leaders Sale Sharks, whilst Wasps defeat Tigers to climb away from the relegation battle.



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2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           
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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Fluxy) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (Fluxy) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1994. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made by sending a PM to the RFU (Fluxy) and it will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Round Bidding 

    Open Bidding


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. £2m for 5 games, £1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: £8m
Runners Up: £6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: £5m
5th: £4m
6th: £3.5m
7th: £3m
8th: £2.5m
9th: £2m
10th: £1.5m
11th: £1m
12th: £0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (Fluxy) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by dammit_chris Sun 25 Sep 2016, 2:05 pm

Thing that works so well with Simpson and Robson is that they are very similar players, but when one comes off the bench they can offer a really big step up in tempo. Interestingly Simpson gets the nod in the big games as he has more control and far better box kick, Robson still makes errors in when to run but can see him becoming best no9 in England.

Agree with you about Cips, you look at Ford, Farrell, Slade and the youngster coming through at Sarries too, but Slade doesnt look like a no10 at all.

Cooper Wooley is developing very nicely at TH at Wasps, Young has coached him very well, but I thought Brookes looked like he hit some form yesterday as well.

Just no idea what England's back three should be anymore, Watson is class but I'm not sure about the others at all - hope May gets back fit and playing again soon.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 26 Sep 2016, 7:17 am


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 26 Sep 2016, 7:31 am

Just waiting for a few more predictions.....

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Post by BamBam Mon 26 Sep 2016, 7:59 am

I'll do this morning at work

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 26 Sep 2016, 10:37 am

Messaged fluxy friday to say I will be in uni all weekend. Not sure whether i iwll get them in before 12.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 26 Sep 2016, 10:48 am

I'll shut them midnight tonight mate

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 26 Sep 2016, 12:27 pm

Will try to get scores in!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 27 Sep 2016, 6:21 am

Scores done.

Forgot to add the other day how well Waldouck played, seemed back to old self. He was excellent in defence and cut some really good lines, would be a handy EQ signing on here.

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Post by BamBam Tue 27 Sep 2016, 9:06 am

Milner Skudder out for the rest of the year, real shame for him

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 27 Sep 2016, 9:20 am

Pocock out of the RC, is that him done until 2018 then?

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Post by Fluxy Tue 27 Sep 2016, 11:28 am

League table up to date OK

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Post by BamBam Tue 27 Sep 2016, 11:31 am

Getting a nosebleed up here

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 27 Sep 2016, 12:32 pm

Robbie Fruen signs for Bath.....phew

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Post by BamBam Tue 27 Sep 2016, 12:34 pm

Had him in my squad for 2 years and he barely played a game!

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Post by Fluxy Tue 27 Sep 2016, 12:44 pm

I think everyone had him for a moment, should be good in the AP.

Was interested to see if they could've tempted Kahui or Barnes over as well.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 27 Sep 2016, 1:30 pm

Brought him into the league when he was first starting out. Massive fan if he hadn't the heart problems he would have been a beast

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 27 Sep 2016, 5:27 pm

Got a few too many backrowers, if anyone has a loosehead available or any other deals let me know!

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue 27 Sep 2016, 9:38 pm

Sorry dude, gonna need mine and maybe another when it comes to AI time! Hoping Ross and Uhila or Kilcoyne at least don't get picked but not sure about it
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 10:18 am

England side to face SA?

1. Mako
2. Hartley
3. Cole
4. Launchbury
5. Kruis
6. Ijoje
7. Robshaw
8. Vuinipola

9. Youngs
10. Ford
11. Roko
12. Farrell
13. JJ
14. Watson
15. Brown

16. George 17. Mullen/Marler 18. Hill 19. Lawes 20. Hughes 21. Care 22. Daly 23. Te'o

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Post by stnick88 Wed 28 Sep 2016, 10:43 am

For me Alex Goode has to be at 15.

Roko deserves a chance on form. Is Nowell injured?

Criminal that Cipriani still isn't in the squad.

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Post by Fluxy Wed 28 Sep 2016, 10:49 am

Nowell and May are injured.

Otherwise, couldn't disagree with the starting XV. Bench would be tempted to look past Hughes (just his form as of late for me) and Teo'o (I know he's my player, but think there are a few more offering something before he gets that chance).

Could see Genge possibly ahead of Marler. Mullan is a good shout.

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Post by BamBam Wed 28 Sep 2016, 10:52 am

Can't disagree with that, haven't seen anything of Teo this season but he's apparently done pretty well .. I'd like another back 3 option on the bench, but not sure who would be an option with Nowell/May injured

I most definitely would not want to see Goode in the side .. if Brown gets injured we're fooked

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 10:54 am

Hughes was great at the weekend but perhaps not the best flank cover.

I hope never to see Goode in an England shirt again!

I'd like to see Robson involved somewhere and May back do we can try Watson at FB

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Post by BamBam Wed 28 Sep 2016, 10:56 am

Oh yeah, forgot about Robson, I'd have him on the bench against SA/Aus/Arg and pick between Youngs/Care as the starter, then give Robson the start against Fiji

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Post by Fluxy Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:04 am

Hughes did play alright last weekend. Although he has struggled as of late, if he can put some games together I wouldn't be disappointed with him being there.
Wouldn't mind someone like Kvesic, Beaumont or Harrison on the bench still.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 11:35 am

I've seen Mike Williams name banded around also but would like to get Launchbury involved. Is Care injured? Got to give Robson a shot surely?

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 12:34 pm

Some good selection headaches for Jones and 11 injuries in the EPS currently so could see some changes, apparently JJ had quite a nasty knock before the Leicester game and Care has smashed his ribs.

Can see Brookes ahead of Hill, he's been very good at Saints this year, but JCW must be very close - Young has worked wonders with him, same with Mullen. Not sure about Hughes at the moment, he improved at the weekend, but just think he offers so much more than how he is currently playing, or that he is capable of being top class but not quite hitting the strides yet.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 12:37 pm

One guy that has been really impressive is the young Worcester winger/fb Perry Humphreys, just has something about him, his ball carrying is excellent and has been scoring plenty of tries so far.

Worcester will be a good team once they get Hougard, Heem and Pennell back.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed 28 Sep 2016, 12:51 pm

Goode can't be at 15. It strips the backline of balance and he's failed time and time again at Int level irrespective of form

15: Brown
14: Nowell, or Roko if out as is likely
13: JJ or Daly if out as currently 
12: Farrell, or Slade if out, as currently 
11: Watson
10: Ford
9: Youngs
8: Vunipola
7: M Williams
6: Robshaw
5: Itoje
4: Kruis or Launch if out or Lawes if he is out too as currently 
3: Cole
2: Hartley, or George if out
1: Vunipola 

Subs: Marler, or Genge if he's out, Hill, George (next in line LCW), Launch/Lawes (next in line Attwood), Care or Robson if he's out (maybe even if he isn't), Cipriani, Te'o
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:05 pm

Backrow will be interesting to see if he goes with an out and out no7 with Haskell injured or opts for a similar replacement like Mike Williams at Tigers, who is def a no6 or lock but would def be able to offer similar to Haskell. Otherwise Kvesvic?

He doesn't seem to like Wallace at all, quite like Brendon O'Connor who has been playing well at Tigers, which you'd imagine would mean Will Evans wouldn't get a chance at starting/playing, not sure about Harrison or Wray having the ability to step up, but Wood has been playing well for Saints too.

Bit of a wildcard but Guy Thompson has been in brilliant form for Wasps, he was so good against Saints and covers all three back row positions - again not sure he can step up to international level, but he smashed the Toulon pack around last year so he is capable.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 1:37 pm

Brookes has been looking better but Hill offers a lot more from the bench. EJ has said Wood is average so I'd be surprised if he go involved.

Evans is too small currently and I can't see Wallace, O'Connor etc getting a chance personally.

You'd suspect he's go for power rather than a natural 7.

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Post by Driver Wed 28 Sep 2016, 2:20 pm

I'd definatly think about Guy Thompson being involved, looked good every time i'v seen him.

Think he'll give Harrison another chance at 7 too be honest.
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Post by Driver Wed 28 Sep 2016, 2:22 pm

Richard Hill appointed England team manager.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:26 pm

Agree with Hill from the bench, very dynamic for a TH, like him.

Yeah Jones hasn't been very complimentary about Wood, he's been playing pretty well this season, certainly a big step up from last but not sure he's right for the game plan England now play.

Yeah I think you could be right about Wallace, but O'Connor has looked really good when he's had a chance with Tigers - been good at the breakdown, gives v few pens away, but it's his link play that I have liked.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:27 pm

I don't think he's a EJ type of player, he seems to favour the aggressive, power option in the backrow.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:32 pm

Think you are right there, all depends on balance, do think we need a genuine fetcher at some stage but from some of Jones' comments it sounds as though he sees Hughes as an option as a no6, so having his power could let us get more of a link player involved.


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Post by Guest Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:32 pm

Fluxy wrote:Hughes did play alright last weekend. Although he has struggled as of late, if he can put some games together I wouldn't be disappointed with him being there.
Wouldn't mind someone like Kvesic, Beaumont or Harrison on the bench still.


Both him
And piccamoles were ok at the weekend and no more. Piccamoles took the wrong option so many times
Though. He looks to truck it up and then offload
If on and several times just needed to
Pass the ball before contact.

Both him and Hughes need to
Learn there is More to the game than carrying. Can see why no one in France was bothered when piccamoles left.

You can also see why Thompson has been picked ahead of
Hughes of Late.

That said Hughes did one pick up when under pressure and went 15-20 metres and that is always valuable. It was a great carry. I would give him another year and tell him to work on his game. He misses smith massively.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 3:52 pm

Ok from you is some compliment! Picamoles has been fantastic so far, very impressed.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 4:08 pm

Neither are a patch on Moriarty though kiss

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 5:25 pm

Thompson has been best backrower in the AP this season, such a clever player and brilliant ball carrier - he was our best player getting over the gain-line by some distance at the weekend.

Mat, I know what you mean, I do like Picamoles though and he's making a big difference to the Saints pack who have massively missed Manoa.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 28 Sep 2016, 5:35 pm

Does anyone have a hooker they could loan me?

I have just loaned Jack Singleton to Matt but had completely forgot Baldwin is injured till next week. Doesn't need to be EQ for me

Doh

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 5:36 pm

"he was our best player getting over the gain-line by some distance at the weekend."

Might be worth checking the stats Chris. Hughes made 50+ meters, I think only Gopperth made more.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 5:36 pm

Spurling Steve?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 28 Sep 2016, 5:38 pm

Perfect. Cheers mate. Should only need for 1 week

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 5:53 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:"he was our best player getting over the gain-line by some distance at the weekend."

Might be worth checking the stats Chris. Hughes made 50+ meters, I think only Gopperth made more.

Thompson was our best ball carrier in the game though, always got us over the gain-line and was our main go to guy when we needed to get out of trouble. He did one monster carry where he floored Waller and two other Saints players.

Gopperth's yards were mostly from a Cipriani break and a clear run to the line from 50-60 metres out, whilst Hughes did one great run that got him a lot of those yards, whilst Thompson did so much of the hard yards and got us on the front foot when he had the ball. Clearly Gopperth and Hughes got more yards if that's what you've seen in the stats, but from watching the game I personally though Thompson was our best player, made the hardest yards and best carries and pretty sure he was motm too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 6:02 pm

Well Hughes made 67m, Thompson 49m.....

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 6:18 pm

Think you missed my point.

It is like saying that Gopperth was Wasps most effective gain-line carrier because he made the most yards.

With Hughes he's no8, so he returns kicks as well, so he's always going to be the forward who makes the most yards. Personally thought Thompson was our best ball carrier throughout the 80mins.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 28 Sep 2016, 6:18 pm

As Matt said earlier, Hughes big carry was under pressure etc.

I'm just getting at your "by a distance" comment, which obviously isn't the case. I thought Thomson played well.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 28 Sep 2016, 6:29 pm

Poorly it was my opinion, I thought he was our best ball carrier by a distance because he got us out of trouble in a really hard defensive game where Saints had us under enormous pressure for the full 80mins. He also made some great runs.

A number 8 should always make the most yards for a forward due to what the position entails and how much more ball goes through them.

Just thought he had a much better game than Hughes and thoroughly deserved his motm.




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Post by Guest Wed 28 Sep 2016, 6:56 pm

chris how do you think wasps will fare when the weather turns
And it gets boggy?

Think the front 5 will struggle
Personally.

Saints had the upper hand scrum wise with Brooke's all over mullan. Taylor is good round park but has been iffy in scrum
And lineout. watched
Most wasps games as they have been on tv quite a bit.

Need launch bury and Haskell fit if they are to challenge for silverware.


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