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Post by Fluxy Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:13 pm

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Breaking News: Newcastle Falcons continue to chase down leaders Sale Sharks, whilst Wasps defeat Tigers to climb away from the relegation battle.



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2015/2016 - Sale Sharks
2014/2015 – London Wasps
2013/2014 – London Wasps
2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers 
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons 
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons 
2009/2010 – Saracens 
2008/2009 - London Irish





                                           
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Welcome to Season 8 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Fluxy) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (Fluxy) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 23 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1994. 

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.
Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. Worcester Warriors & London Wasps will receive two additional bids to be used exclusively on academy age players. These players must be bid for on the National League Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by the RFU on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made by sending a PM to the RFU (Fluxy) and it will be considered by the RFU against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Round Bidding 

    Open Bidding


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the National League Bidding page.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be European Rugby Champions Cup, European Rugby Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Failure to meet these deadlines is punishable by the addition of three match points to the oppositions final score, unless both sides fail to do so. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Sunday. Managers will pm the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. 
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

For domestic competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

For European competition at least 8 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 6 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions 
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
Bonuses will be awarded on a scaled basis i.e. £2m for 5 games, £1.6m for 4 games and so on
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc upto a maximum of £5m per fine.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: £8m
Runners Up: £6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: £5m
5th: £4m
6th: £3.5m
7th: £3m
8th: £2.5m
9th: £2m
10th: £1.5m
11th: £1m
12th: £0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (Fluxy) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation (foreign transfer value) in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:12 pm

Don't think Janties was given a fair crack of it. You don't pick him and then tell him to play deep. Was never really given a chance to run the attack like he wanted to. Need to fix the midfield combo. No one stood out on attack and defensively no one wanted to take charge

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Post by Fluxy Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:17 pm

When you look at it, I would say their best midfield is De Allende Kriel, but like you said SJE, who is really going to lead that between them?

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:21 pm

Fluxy, agree with you there, Waller won't play international rugby, there are a lot of good options coming through and I don't think he will get a look in unless there are quite a few injuries in the next judo training session!

Not really sure there is an issue with Mako scrummaging, or no more than any other player in that position. He's our best LH now with his work around the field and Sarries will keep making him better, like they have done with most of their forwards - look at the difference they've made to BV since he moved from Wasps.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:25 pm

10-12 has been a bit of an issue with Janties possibly not having the quality required and De Allende not being in good form this season.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:26 pm

Everytime I think mako has fixed his scrummaging issues he'll have a mare. he's a real powerful guy but often gets done on technique. He'll be fine against a pretty poor SA outfit I imagine but I'd like to get Marler back firing to challenge him.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:11 pm

Had a great season in many positions

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/goosen-voted-best-in-top-14/

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:15 pm

He's looked good the few times I've caught him for racing. Hasn't managed to transform this form to the Int stage though unfortunately.

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Post by ChequeredJersey Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:25 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Saints have said today that he is now training, had a friend meet him yesterday at a touch rugby O2 promotion and he said he's good to go again, with George making an impact from the bench as well, it is looking good for us.

Be interesting to see who he selects as loosehead, not sure about Marler at the moment and think he got injured last weekend (Adam Jones played LH for 70 minutes!) and Jones seems to like the impact Genge offers.

Marler has looked back in top form the few matches he has played but hasn't played much this season - injury then head injury protocol then back spasm last week


When he's fit, he's still a significantly better scrummager than Mako, but would be a risk to put him in an England 23 when he's not stringing games together
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Post by ChequeredJersey Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:28 pm

Does anyone have Harry Randall yet?
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Post by Fluxy Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:39 pm

Prop does!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:19 pm

Great performance from Quin's so far. Marler playing himself into England side with a very impressive scrum showing. Something we just don't see from Mako.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:29 pm

And Yards playing his way out....

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:44 am

Check this hit out

http://www.planetrugby.com/news/video-of-the-week-monster-hit-on-nz-schools-wing/

Watching the Quins game now after training and marler doing well. Stade loosehead poor is the ex wasp ?

I like Mako and Marler and think Mako would bring genuine impact of
Bench whereas marler would not so would prefer
To start marler. Not much between tn
And a strong position for us.

There is not one stand out LH in world rugby:

They are a load who are all at the same level

Marler, Moody, Ben Arous ( my favourite but a bit off boil), Beast, Mcgrath(most improved) Georgian one, Ayerza( living on past glories currently but form temporary class
Permanent )

Etc


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Post by Guest Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:31 pm

As an England and fan and more
Importantly a Glos Fan it's great to see
Johnny may named in the lineup tomorrow.

Bayonne is lovely. I reckon we are 2 of
Maybe 30 who have travelled

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:14 am

What a poor Leicester team

Leicester: 15 Telusa Veainu, 14 Adam Thompstone, 13 Mathew Tait, 12 Matt Toomua, 11 Tom Brady, 10 Owen Williams, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Lachlan McCaffrey, 7 Brendon O’Connor, 6 Mike Fitzgerald, 5 Graham Kitchener, 4 Dom Barrow, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Tom Youngs (c), 1 Ellis Genge

Agree with pooly that it's a poor
Leicester Pack,

Genge
Will be decent but needs time. That back 5 of
Pack is awful. Slater can't get a game for some reason. He is better than either of those locks
for me:

Back line Young's and Toomua aside is poor( sure he will take a few games
To get up to speed)

Veianu is a superb attacker but defensively at 15 a night mare. Better wing as struggles positionally at 15. Why teams pick a player who can't kick at 15 is beyond me.

Leicester let down by pack and quality of ball. In a good side Toomua veianu etc would carve people to pieces. Betham better wing also. Add pietersen and they have firepower but can't play off scraps

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:08 pm

Why teams pick a player who can't kick at 15 is beyond me.

Folau?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:41 pm

Nothing wrong with Folaus kicking

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 15, 2016 1:27 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:Nothing wrong with Folaus kicking

Theres nothing right with it! Folau is an awful kicker, that's why he rarely does it. Cracking player though obviously.

Kicking is his only real weakness.

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Post by BamBam Sat Oct 15, 2016 5:13 pm

I know he's my player, but I genuinely think George is up there with anyone in the world at hooker at the moment

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:25 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
Steven_Sharks wrote:Nothing wrong with Folaus kicking

Theres nothing right with it! Folau is an awful kicker, that's why he rarely does it. Cracking player though obviously.

Kicking is his only real weakness.

Kicking is Folaus weakness compared to other attributes.but is vastly improved. Defensively he is superb and kicking wise he clears it ok now. Teams used to target him but now he can clear the kick you can't pin him like you used to. Also his aerial
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:31 pm

The non kicking full back is weird. Foden used to be poor at it and in big games got targetted.

As full back is such a great place to attack from
Lots of teams tried exciting runners there.

Jason Robinson was eventually a success there but was awful kicking wise for a long time

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:33 pm

Can't disagree with Folau's quality, he's a class act. Aus have played him at 15 for a while now and he basically just didn't used to kick. That was basically my point.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:34 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Can't disagree with Folau's quality, he's a class act. Aus have played him at 15 for a while now and he basically just didn't used to kick. That was basically my point.

100% agree with you

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 15, 2016 6:39 pm

Good to see Farrell and May back today. Farrell was very impressive after not getting much game time.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:30 pm

May was decent and got a try.

We left after 60 as my lad was ill
So missed the try.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:54 pm

BamBam wrote:I know he's my player, but I genuinely think George is up there with anyone in the world at hooker at the moment


We have such depth now. LCD been outstanding also and Hartley is permanent class.


george a great footballer and also does basics well.

From my side great to see Figallo now first choice TH. looks fully fit and back to dominant best.
Like cole he had horrendous neck injury and it's taken him 2 years to be fully fit

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:59 am

From my side great to see Figallo now first choice TH. looks fully fit and back to dominant best.
Like cole he had horrendous neck injury and it's taken him 2 years to be fully fit

Not sure I can agree with that Matt. Figallo has started 1 game in the AP and didn't show up too well, I'd say Petrus was firmly 1st choice with 5 starts. With Koch coming in, I imagine Figallo will slip down to 3rd choice.

He played quite well yesterday, but as you've said in the past, Toulon have a poor scrum and there was little in the contest really.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:28 am

Figallo not good against Wasps? Not sure id agree with you there, he smashed us in th set piece and excellent in the loose as well. He's been very good last 2 games.

Whole Saracena pack is on fire - Mako probably had his best game for them yesterday, Kruis was world class and Itoje and BV were incredible. George is looking very very good too. Great to see an English club end Toulons home record too.

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 16, 2016 2:55 pm

Sad news that foley the Munster coach has died in Paris before the match started

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Post by BamBam Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:16 pm

Awful news, can't believe it

RIP

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Post by ChequeredJersey Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:50 pm

So young Sad
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Post by Fluxy Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:14 pm

Sad news regarding Foley.

Don't forget predictions are open until tomorrow evening or so, as I'm travelling this evening and tomorrow!

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Post by prop_lyd Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:20 pm

Horrible news re: Foley. Always puts things in perspective when events like that happen.

Regarding the NZ vs Aus game this weekend, is it outside the international window i.e: can we play our internationals even if they are selected?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:30 am

Big rumours that Giteau is about to retire.

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Post by Fluxy Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:20 am

prop_lyd wrote:Horrible news re: Foley. Always puts things in perspective when events like that happen.

Regarding the NZ vs Aus game this weekend, is it outside the international window i.e: can we play our internationals even if they are selected?

I believe that they would still be unavailable mate, unless you have learned how to clone players... .... I'll order my back line of Beauden Barrett's and pack of Dane Coles' and Mario Itoje's please Very Happy

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Post by prop_lyd Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:30 am

Ok cheers fella, wasn't sure how it worked with it being out of the international window.
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Post by Fluxy Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:04 am

I haven't had a chance to look back, and considering how we don't pick players during internationals as it is, would consider it the same ruling,.

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Post by BamBam Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:11 am

Hadn't even realised there was another game!

How inconvenient

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:05 pm

Yeah we have always counted the internationals outside of the window as unavailable as far as I'm aware. Blesidoe cup, Wales extra AI etc thumbsup

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Post by prop_lyd Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:03 pm

No worries, my Havali-ALB centre combo will have to wait!!
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Post by Fluxy Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:24 pm

Both Round Two threads are up to date with away sides and conditions - so no excuses on late teams!

The pools are also up to date after round one here - European Homepage

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Post by stnick88 Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:14 pm

does anyone do scorers for European games?

happy to do them if not?

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Post by Fluxy Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:32 pm

I use the real scores for the actual euro fixtures, but feel free to do them OK 
May want to look at the pools, as I have filled out tries scored there.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:55 pm

Quite like the look of this pack in the Telegraph's team of the week Rolling Eyes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2016/10/17/champions-cup-team-of-the-weekend-who-makes-our-xv/15-stuart-hogg---glasgow/

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Post by stnick88 Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:21 pm

when is the next foreign transfer window?

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Post by Fluxy Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:46 am

Not until 2017 Nick.

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Post by Fluxy Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:47 am

Has anyone managed to speak to Driver? Concerned as he hasn't put a side in for two, going on three weeks. Don't want to go back down to 11 managers after finally bringing Nick back into the fold.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:01 pm

I think we need a new manager in mate.

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Post by BamBam Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:03 pm

CF is back on the boards.......

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:13 pm

Who's CF?

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